[T][M] Resistance VI

On January 19 2017 07:15 Rels wrote:

I didn't receive anything so welcome to the game.
What account with you be playing with ?

On January 27 2017 10:43 sicklucker wrote:


I dont see how rejecting missions ever is a good idea for newbs

On January 27 2017 15:46 sicklucker wrote:



because you need to complete missions to win? wtf

On January 27 2017 07:38 Chairman Ray wrote:


I've played a few hundred games of this live, and I think I played once on TL.

Yeah, if you are town, please reject mission 5 if you are not on that mission and most of the time reject mission 4 as well, but for the first three, please use your best judgement. Reason being that in mission 5, even if you think everyone on it is town, they can all just approve it and the mission goes ahead, but on the chance that at least one of them rejects, and people outside the group approves, you need to reject it. For the first three missions, if you are not in the group, please use your best judgement and approve missions you think will pass, because if you reject groups that you are not on, then mafia get to pick which mission passes. I've definitely had a lot of games thrown where town was being too cynical early game or too optimistic late game.

On January 27 2017 17:08 Silverika wrote:


Why do you refer yourself as not town here?

On January 27 2017 17:51 Superbia wrote:
Also as obviously confirmed town I should be on every mission. Feel free to bring the heat and fight me if you disagree. :D

On January 27 2017 18:00 Superbia wrote:
Also every mission is super fucking important. Do not vote yes on a mission because "We don't have any information yet." or "We need information". This is a fucking mafia sub site son. Sit down and play the game.

Pre-rant.

On January 27 2017 18:04 Superbia wrote:
I'm here if people want to discuss shit.

Let's start off with CR being mafia.

On January 27 2017 18:04 Superbia wrote:
And vivax being town.

On January 27 2017 15:46 sicklucker wrote:



because you need to complete missions to win? wtf

On January 27 2017 17:10 Chairman Ray wrote:


What do you mean?

On January 27 2017 18:57 RtaniSoul wrote:
RtanisouL Tumblewood Silverika

On January 27 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:

Not interested in why you?

On January 27 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:

Not interested in why you?

On January 27 2017 19:27 sicklucker wrote:


I understood you as saying a town should intentionally fail a mission which is kind of what you said but obvious not what you ment.. because that would be silly

On January 27 2017 22:05 Silverika wrote:


Where the hell did you draw that conclusion?

On January 27 2017 22:13 Calix wrote:
Ello there.

I've never played Resistance so I have a question. Why don't we just auto-reject the first few teams? lol

If we have 24 hour days then that's clearly the best strategy to ensure that we have enough info on everyone.

Unless it's actually better play to get Mission 1 over and done with. If Mission 1 is as useless as Day 1 in Mafia tends to be then I could see that as a possibility.

On January 27 2017 23:31 Vivax wrote:
Do you stand by your rtanisoul/tumble/silverika nomination?

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 27 2017 23:56 RtaniSoul wrote:
mrt erased my post @.@

short version:

silverika lex has a townread on for the way he's responded to a few people, including sl (i'm deferring to him on that cause no real opinion), and i like super, so suggestion is:

RtaniSoul, silverika, Super

lex thought including tumble might give more insight on tumble's nominations (yes, that was the great townie test >>) idk personally how valuable a strat that is. my experience with resistance is pretty slight. but assuming he's right on silverika it would probably tell us something

random other bit, lex thinks sl may be town for *bad* reasons lol ^^ so he's in our slight column somewhere if we were keeping better track >>

On January 27 2017 22:19 Calix wrote:
For the record, I don't understand what the problem is with the SL/ Swika discussion so if SW could explain that then I'd appreciate it.

The only thing that stuck out to me about SL on a skim-read was that he was trying to 'confirm' himself with that dumb tell thing.

On January 28 2017 03:17 Vivax wrote:
Fyi I'm rejecting cause I don't trust RtaniSoul yet.

Superbia Silverika seems fine to me though.

On January 28 2017 03:22 sharkie wrote:


Good choice, i will vote for this team!

On January 28 2017 08:35 Tumblewood wrote:

not liking this justification at all. would've preferred a simple "I'm on it sooooo" to trusting rtani for being the leader. does not feel logicked out but does act like it was

On January 28 2017 09:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to explain why before I get hit with the burden of proof.

On January 29 2017 01:37 Tumblewood wrote:
ugh I don't TR anybody on this team (coming the closest on rtani but I really can't read rsoul). gonna reject and try again until further notice

On January 29 2017 08:17 Superbia wrote:
Yeah I'm like 95% that team was all town.

On January 29 2017 08:19 Superbia wrote:
Sharkie just seems like mafia agreeing with the team because its likely right and attempting to get get credits for that. Something like that. Could be completely wrong, but hey. :D

On January 29 2017 08:47 sharkie wrote:
How can anyone take cred for a successful team? That sounds so illogical for me...

On January 29 2017 08:48 Superbia wrote:


Votes at this point are stilll a bit too much WIFOM imo. It leans to the fact that it is the right team.

I just feel pretty good about who the scum are. You had a very similar list (I think pretty much the same).

On January 29 2017 09:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Why is everyone so anti-Calix?

I don't think her inactivity is alignment indicative. She didn't even make the vote.

On January 29 2017 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
Wait Silverika voted yes. the same person who reminded me its the optimal strategy to never vote yes on the first two votes. nice

On January 29 2017 13:32 sicklucker wrote:


ya sharkie could be mafia. is there a mafia qt in this game?

On January 29 2017 13:35 sicklucker wrote:


unless they know no ones going to vote. no one ever votes for the first mission its like free information to vote no on it

On January 29 2017 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
Wait Silverika voted yes. the same person who reminded me its the optimal strategy to never vote yes on the first two votes. nice

On January 29 2017 15:09 Tumblewood wrote:
as nice as it would be to wait until the middle of the night to post my team so it could be 12 hours and a couple minutes after the start of the cycle, I'm not interested in people yelling at me while I'm asleep
this is temporary but not really cuz it's probably right
##nominate: tumblewood, grackaroni, vivax

On January 29 2017 18:16 sicklucker wrote:


what does that have to do with me?

On January 29 2017 18:17 sicklucker wrote:


i said you reminded me it is. never said you had the same idea

On January 30 2017 02:19 Tumblewood wrote:

well fuck you too I guess

On January 30 2017 06:35 sharkie wrote:
Oh god calix is next leader, can we afford that?

On January 30 2017 08:46 Vivax wrote:


Would you be fine with superbia/you/tumble?

On January 30 2017 13:40 Tumblewood wrote:
mhmm weird how someone would try and get a team without any of their townreads rejected, and then nominate a team with their townreads

On January 30 2017 19:34 RtaniSoul wrote:

We figure you'll get your head out of your ass eventually xP

Tumble is pretty damn town. He's just on it this game with lots of bretty good observations.

On January 30 2017 19:43 Superbia wrote:


He feels very floaty. Nothing he says seems solid and I have a feeling he has no actual reads.

His interaction with vivax feels pockety at best.

I find it weird that you townread him so hard even though he has put a lot of doubt (imo) on both myself and wolf, both of whom are your other townreads. He also put doubt on yourself.

And then he mafia-reads into consensus reads + myself.

On January 31 2017 00:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Also Silver, Tumble knocking you/superbia off the team in favor of his own reads isn't "cause for concern." If he was scum he could add any 2 players and himself and still sabotage the mission.

Don't scum read people for having different reads than you.

On January 31 2017 03:36 sicklucker wrote:
the fact im not trying early is a town read for me tbh. like is this my mafia game? where i blantantly try not to be town read??

On January 31 2017 18:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Based on my probability estimates this team has a 105% chance of being approved, so let's gogogogo

On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:


Care to elaborate?

On January 31 2017 18:50 emperorchampion wrote:


Care to elaborate?

On January 31 2017 17:59 emperorchampion wrote:
Cause grack's a bro:

Scum hunting:


Town circling:


I put my nomination early cause I'm pretty fine with any of my town reads:
super/silver/grack

On January 31 2017 20:30 emperorchampion wrote:
tumble/silver/super ?

Basically if the leader puts themselves or not, the question is about who get the more information. Leader putting themselves gives more info to the leader, otherwise gives more info to whoever they put in. So it's a question about who you trust. Not sure I fully trust 2 other people yet though.

On February 01 2017 07:05 sicklucker wrote:
oh god so rejected

On February 01 2017 07:07 sicklucker wrote:
like under 10% these people are all town

On February 01 2017 06:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Mm I think I just stick with original + I'm peacing soon

I feel good about this team :D and I encourage y'all to vote yay!!

On February 01 2017 07:38 sharkie wrote:


I just felt good about the people at that time. It's the first team with no information, that's all about your feeling only. Obviously, that has changed now. I don't want Super in a team anymore.



- Silver is resistance, would need some major changes to change my opinion about that. You I feel good towards too.
- E/C is a spy for me because he offered us way too many possibilities for a team. That's a big "Hey, I let you guys decide what you want. Just like me please!"
- sicklucker had my benefit of doubt till his weird drunk posts... You guys kept accusing people spies because they don't try hard enough - his behaviour reflects that a lot.
- Tumble/Super - one of them is my third possible spy. I just don't know which one of them. Maybe there is a scenario where both of them are spies and they go the route of playing totally against each other I don't know (what I don't believe as that would also make sicklucker resistance).

The rest are resistance by process of elimination.

On February 01 2017 12:00 sicklucker wrote:
like theres acualy no reason to think im a spy. why am I certainly a spy? I have yet to do anything in this game. that does not make me a spy

On February 01 2017 11:59 sicklucker wrote:


well i know two towns are not in that list maybe 3. so 3 of 6 left are scum and 3 are in that player list. do some math

On February 02 2017 02:23 sicklucker wrote:
is it really that bad if you dont pass from your pov? one of the people you included is picking next altho im pretty sure silverika is a spy. but if you think hes town you should assume he can put up a better team that will be voted on

On February 02 2017 04:05 sicklucker wrote:


throwing shade on me for no reason

On February 02 2017 04:05 sicklucker wrote:


throwing shade on me for no reason

On February 02 2017 06:18 Silverika wrote:
Well, if missions keep getting rejected, I'm not sure how much more I'll put effort in here. If we can't move forward, I really have nothing to say.

~SilverWolf77

On February 02 2017 06:20 Grackaroni wrote:

If this and Vivax's mission get rejected then the mission you choose goes through automatically.

On February 02 2017 06:18 RtaniSoul wrote:
So, here's what I'm thinking.
Tumble and Silver have both kinda fallen off in our opinion. Tumble because he's basically said nothing of value for a while and Silver doesn't really sit right with me atm. The whole not voting for any mission you're not on doesn't make sense to me since if all resistance players would do so, we might as well just cut the first four mission attempts. The only way a mission would go through would be if it was 2 resistance 1 spy and all the spies voted in favour of the mission.

Sharkie and Grack have gone up. Sharkie just feels like such an innocent child in every post he's been making since ~the second mission. Grack is making a lot of decent points and it doesn't feel like he's pushing a specific team but rather he's trying to get the thread going and people to think on scenario's and such.

Conclusion of all of this is that this is a mission without my top 3 townreads (including myself, duh), meaning if my top townreads are correct the 3 people on this mission need to all be town. For that to be true, EC would have to be mafia and have left off a Vivax mafia even though there was an opportunity to put him up without too much resistance. There's just no way this team is good.

Tina also wants to stress that sicklucker is incredibly mafia. Just in case you forgot. Lex isn't as convinced but will roll with it.

On February 02 2017 06:22 RtaniSoul wrote:

We're not gonna pass any mission we're not on. But if people keep not accepting missions we're gonna be upset!
>>

On February 02 2017 06:22 RtaniSoul wrote:

We're not gonna pass any mission we're not on. But if people keep not accepting missions we're gonna be upset!
>>

On February 02 2017 06:18 RtaniSoul wrote:
So, here's what I'm thinking.
Tumble and Silver have both kinda fallen off in our opinion. Tumble because he's basically said nothing of value for a while and Silver doesn't really sit right with me atm. The whole not voting for any mission you're not on doesn't make sense to me since if all resistance players would do so, we might as well just cut the first four mission attempts. The only way a mission would go through would be if it was 2 resistance 1 spy and all the spies voted in favour of the mission.

Sharkie and Grack have gone up. Sharkie just feels like such an innocent child in every post he's been making since ~the second mission. Grack is making a lot of decent points and it doesn't feel like he's pushing a specific team but rather he's trying to get the thread going and people to think on scenario's and such.

Conclusion of all of this is that this is a mission without my top 3 townreads (including myself, duh), meaning if my top townreads are correct the 3 people on this mission need to all be town. For that to be true, EC would have to be mafia and have left off a Vivax mafia even though there was an opportunity to put him up without too much resistance. There's just no way this team is good.

Tina also wants to stress that sicklucker is incredibly mafia. Just in case you forgot. Lex isn't as convinced but will roll with it.

On February 02 2017 06:22 RtaniSoul wrote:

We're not gonna pass any mission we're not on. But if people keep not accepting missions we're gonna be upset!
>>

On February 02 2017 09:04 sicklucker wrote:


why are you mad? now you get to pick a team...

scummy mc scum scum

On February 02 2017 09:05 sicklucker wrote:
dammit vivax you better pick a good team because I have to vote yes on this no matter what since the 5th is silver

On February 02 2017 19:21 sharkie wrote:
My analysis of the last day:

-

I really want to highlight this post. This was the first time we had our two resident debaters on the same team and just like vivax I was looking forward to their posts to this team nomination. However, neither posted anything about this team and chose the safe way out (rejecting the team). Now I am sure both people will come up with some excuse why yesterday was the day they could not post a lot. But this is way too much coincidence for me as if either had been town they would have surely spoken up and gave us their thoughts about being on the same team. So for me the suspicion of both rose up quite a lot after yesterday.

- My next point or question is "wtf silver?" Why did you approve of this team nomination of EC? I thought we were in agreement that EC is very suspicious of being a spy so why do you approve his mission? No way you can believe that a spy will not try to smuggle at least one spy in this team especially the way he acted. Yes, he gave us several suggestions based on our feedback but in the end he chose out of the several possibilities. You were 100% for me but this vote put a dent (small but still) in your reputation imo.

- I really liked SL's posts the other day. I think he realised that he posted some stupid things and did try to make up for it (and successfully in my point of view). I hope that resurgence of his posts is not a one time thing and he will now assist us more in team selections!

On February 02 2017 19:00 RtaniSoul wrote:

That's one of the only things EC has done that we don't find scummy. If no one's townreading your slot it doesn't make sense to put yourself up as that mission will never pass the first stage.

On February 02 2017 21:58 sicklucker wrote:


you shouldnt be mad as either alignment you have all the power... which is why your actions make no sense. its amazing really

On February 02 2017 21:59 sicklucker wrote:
silvers so mad at me and it does not make anysense. like it has to be fake rage right? wtf did I even do

On February 02 2017 22:00 sicklucker wrote:


no its fucking not he has the 5th team and hes mad it got rejected. it basicly means he can send who he wants to send which is what everyone wants to do. if I was him I would be dancing in the streets. I cant tell if hes an angry person or someone like me who fakes rage to have something to talk about as mafia. but it makes no fucking sense

On February 02 2017 21:59 sicklucker wrote:
silvers so mad at me and it does not make anysense. like it has to be fake rage right? wtf did I even do

On February 02 2017 19:34 Vivax wrote:
Super also dropped off drifting off into SLesque shitposting style as of late, so his 6 pages of filter don't impress my eyes as much. But he seems like he's just trying to have fun with the game at times, so dnu, unsure on him still.

Taking a look just at the votes I feel like swika approves a bit too often for my taste and I would like an explanation of why they approved with emc on the team as sharkie pointed out, but otherwise still am not particularly distrustful of that slot. Frustration about not passing seemed genuine too.

On February 02 2017 23:07 RtaniSoul wrote:

First it's the double sub. Second, it's everything that happened around the previous nomination which I quoted last page.

On February 02 2017 19:25 Vivax wrote:


Approved. I like his thoughts to the super and tumble matter as I also dislike them much more since they literally didn't care. And I like that you suggest this.

Next suggestion is

Sharkie/Ika/Grack

On February 03 2017 19:04 sharkie wrote:


I still only know half of the words you use to describe things.
I've played "The resistance" the board game and there no things such as scum or townread appear...

On February 05 2017 17:02 RtaniSoul wrote:
Silver, why Vivax over us?

On February 05 2017 17:43 RtaniSoul wrote:


well i mean, we know we're town, so obviously for us that will always be the best choice here

but apart from the obvious it's mostly ego :/ hard not to go but but we're so obviously town! how can we not even be top four in y'all's eyes? but we'll get over it lol ><

On February 06 2017 19:50 Superbia wrote:
Silver, what happened to your #1 town read on me?

On February 07 2017 00:21 Superbia wrote:
Reading me mafia is so bad and shitty.

On February 07 2017 00:29 Superbia wrote:
Fuck me lined up 1 reads and 1 vote and already caught scum.

Can someone else pick up the slack now?

On February 07 2017 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Methinks the team is Sharkie/Tumblewood/Rtanisoul

On February 07 2017 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:

I just don't understand all of the confidence in this mission.

Between the four of us you would need to have found 4/5 townies

Scum would have had to have failed massively this game, and the vote for the last mission wasn't even close. It's also not like Sharkie or I were beacons of townie-ness that couldn't have been stopped. I don't think either of us were even going to be put on Silver's mission if that mission was rejected.

On February 07 2017 15:31 sharkie wrote:
I don't even....

1) So you guys spent days and hours downvoting the first mission teams in order to get information for a usually not vital mission. But the first opportunity to get real information about who the spies are (if all resistance players had downvoted this mission we could have seen whether the spies voted FOR this mission as they desperately need this mission to fail to have any chance at this game)
-> I thought this was the reason some of you even suggested the hidden voting in the first place (I am looking at you, silver and SL...)? I really have no clue how you guys play resistance...

2) Also why did TW and SL approve this mission? RT is kinda obvious as the team was his top4 resistance guys. But TW, SL keep saying how there is a spy in this team and yet they keep voting yay for these teams?

3) Is motivation so low that you just want to end this game as fast as possible? If so, why for god's sake did you then keep downvoting the first mission? Couldn't we have just passed the very first team (as silver and I had suggested), look at how it turns out and THEN play the fun downvoting game for the second mission which is far more important in the game than the first? I really thought most of you have participated in this game in order to have a fun game but I keep reading things like "I hope the game is over soon." or "I don't want to play this game anymore). Well the fastest way to end this game is just to put up our most potential suspects into the team and then the game is over. I am so fed up with your attitudes. If you don't like playing the game, then just keep voting yay, don't comment at all and we will soon have a conclusion. And please stop mentioning you want this game to end, I really mean it. I am fed up reading the same negativity over and over....

4)


I never said that vivax is not resistance nor that his actions mean that he is a spy. All I said was that your conclusions are not 100% sound. Any good spy could do the same thing vivax did so why is he automatically resistance? He is neutral leaning towards good for me, has been all game for me.

On February 07 2017 23:19 RtaniSoul wrote:

He mentioned he did it for information.

As for the failure: The next mission is 4 players too. The presumption is that if the mission was all town, the scum would've already given up, but too many people that aren't on the mission are still trying so it doesn't make sense for the game to be over.

On February 07 2017 23:41 sharkie wrote:


As I said it was to get information. We have already dragged out the game unnecessarily when we did the whole voting game for the very first mission (where we all agree upon that spies don't find it so important anyway) so I assumed we would play the same game for the second mission before we select the mission for good. What else was the reason for forcing us to vote in secret now?

Also why should I sacrifice a whole mission to get information about one player? I'd rather end the game without getting any failures. That is why I wanted RT instead of vivax.

On February 07 2017 23:45 Silverika wrote:
in short (ika here):

sharkie voting no when the only person he suspects on this team is vivax makes no sense form a towns POV. a town!sharkie should of voted yes on this to confirm vivax as scum/town (becasue scum!vivax would be forced to sabbo this or next mission where as twon!viv with town!shrakie is auto win)

so basically if this mission is sabboed, sharkie is the spy who did it

On February 07 2017 23:48 sharkie wrote:


Not wanting to gift the spies a mission = reason for being a spy.
Good analysis!

On February 07 2017 23:49 RtaniSoul wrote:

You people keep using this logic and it doesn't work because it presumes that people have 100% townreads on the other people in the mission AND it presumes that failing a mission to identify a spy is worth it.

Even if he was 100% on both you and grack, look at it from his situation. If vivax is mafia, he learns that Vivax is mafia whilst the rest of the thread (given thread sentiment) all believe HE is the spy. He knows Vivax is mafia but it doesn't help him in the slightest because he cannot convince the rest of the game of it. A mission is failed and a townie is left out of any further consideration, a disastrous result.

On February 07 2017 23:49 RtaniSoul wrote:

You people keep using this logic and it doesn't work because it presumes that people have 100% townreads on the other people in the mission AND it presumes that failing a mission to identify a spy is worth it.

Even if he was 100% on both you and grack, look at it from his situation. If vivax is mafia, he learns that Vivax is mafia whilst the rest of the thread (given thread sentiment) all believe HE is the spy. He knows Vivax is mafia but it doesn't help him in the slightest because he cannot convince the rest of the game of it. A mission is failed and a townie is left out of any further consideration, a disastrous result.

On February 07 2017 23:50 RtaniSoul wrote:
Silver, Question: If Sharkie had voted in favor of the mission and the mission had failed, who would you believe was the spy?

On February 07 2017 23:52 sharkie wrote:


You do know that only the worst spies would ever defend other spies?

On February 07 2017 23:54 RtaniSoul wrote:

Clearly we're both spies and massively associating with one another because that strategy makes a lot more sense than town players who believe that other people are wrong.

On February 07 2017 23:54 sharkie wrote:


What do you mean grack "has a record of it"?

On February 07 2017 23:57 Vivax wrote:
So the latest pages are rtanisoul and sharkie pushing the notion that spies dont defend each other when there are no flips and bussing is suicidal.

On February 07 2017 23:56 RtaniSoul wrote:

Obviously, B is the case. I have a strong townread on Sharkie and you believe I'm wrong or scum. We're exactly the same in that regard as your beloved grack and vivax.

On February 08 2017 00:03 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't even be so tunneled, but this happened:

During noms I asked rtanisoul who the third should be alongside grack and swika.

They said sharkie or themselves. They didn't put a fight over sending Grack and Swika. So everything suggested that they trust them, right? At least it suggested it to me. Third candidate would be the risky one, and I thought that was the consensus.

Yet when the mission is over and now we're contemplating the consequences of a failure, Grack and Swika are suddenly at the same level of suspiciousness as sharkie for them and that is something I disagree with and that doesn't look at all like it looked for them, back when I nominated.

On February 08 2017 00:06 sharkie wrote:


Please tell me you have more things to back you up except past games... Because that is the worst proof you can have for social deduction games...
Also what is wifom?

On February 08 2017 00:20 sharkie wrote:
As I said I have played resistance in life settings before...

On February 08 2017 00:06 sharkie wrote:


Please tell me you have more things to back you up except past games... Because that is the worst proof you can have for social deduction games...
Also what is wifom?

On February 08 2017 00:31 Superbia wrote:


They do? Where do you derive this from?

On February 08 2017 00:28 sharkie wrote:


Your point being? I have said that I had played resistance before.. O.O

On February 08 2017 00:09 sharkie wrote:


So vivax playing in a suboptimal manner is ridiculous but rt and me playing in a suboptimal manner is logical?

Vivax and you have that in common. You assume the best of spies when it suits you but other times spies are the dumbest players ever...

On February 08 2017 01:45 Grackaroni wrote:

I think Vivax wouldn't send himself because he made such a big deal out of how bad it was that everyone else was adding themselves to their teams.

The only thing that worries me right now is that I've never seen what Silverika's scum play looks like.

On February 08 2017 02:35 sharkie wrote:


I am still waiting on a counter for this one, silver...
You keep saying vivax is resistance because if he were a spy he would be playing sub-optimally. But in the same breath you accuse me of being a spy but not considering that if I were one I acted sub-optimally on the first mission by not failing it.

Note please that I am not using this argument to defend myself. It would be very hypocritical of me to do that. All I am saying is that you can't apply your logic on one case but refuse to do it on the other one. That is a very inconsistent line of thinking...

On February 08 2017 03:32 RtaniSoul wrote:
I'm going to laugh if this mission just ends up passing and the scumteam has been trolling us.

On February 08 2017 05:32 emperorchampion wrote:


Arby's has things other than curly fries??

On February 08 2017 05:53 Silverika wrote:


Delicious Roast Beef sandwiches. Yum................

On February 08 2017 03:14 sharkie wrote:


A different example then to make it clearer for you.

You say Grack cannot be spy because if they had been they would have abused the fact that I was on the team and just failed the mission to put the blame on me. Thus, a passed mission #1 = grack resistance for you. Because them planning to fail mission #1 would be sub-optimal for you.

But then don't you think that sharkie, the spy would have come to the same conclusion and rather risked failing mission #1 instead of giving grack/silver more credibility, just to fail mission #2? That should be sub-optimal play for you too.

What I am trying to say is whoever you accuse of being a spy between us 2 (sharkie, grack) must have done sub-optimal play for you so you cannot use that argument to defend or accuse either one of us.

Again: I am neither accusing grack of being a spy (as RT said if he had been a spy he would have jumped on the sharkie/RT hate bandwagon) nor am I using this to defend myself! I just want to realise that this line of thinking is flawed.

On January 28 2017 03:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to keep my vote a secret.

On February 09 2017 19:29 sharkie wrote:
Also my main point of all the things I posted is not defending Grack as resistance. It is that no one considers vivax a spy at all. I can understand that you don't want to believe in a good Grack anymore but how does that make vivax automatically a resistance player?!

And don't come to me with crap about how his past play proves that he is not that kind of player. Or how he has played makes no sense of spy play. WELL HELLO THERE neither does Grack's play.

But Grack is an obvious spy -> Vivax is not?!

On February 09 2017 19:42 sharkie wrote:


Regarding 2)
- he added before the game started not to put himself on the team, he CAN'T go back on his word. If he does, he is AUTOMATICALLY a spy to everyone I hope?
- What risk? He even asked you what team you would suggest to put up. He practically said "I trust you what you do. Tell me what to do" Don't tell me that didn't give him bonus points in your view. As you can see not including himself gained him massive resistance points from everyone with the exception of me.
- Why? Because his spy teammates suck.

On February 09 2017 21:43 Grackaroni wrote:

lol I don't know how long you guys can keep doing this.

"I can't understand why he would shift reads. He must be trying to wifom his way out of being scum read. By the way, I now think that you're really townie."

On February 09 2017 21:43 Grackaroni wrote:

lol I don't know how long you guys can keep doing this.

"I can't understand why he would shift reads. He must be trying to wifom his way out of being scum read. By the way, I now think that you're really townie."

On February 09 2017 23:21 sharkie wrote:


70-30 that vivax is spy and not Grack for me.
I can understand your and silver's arguments from your point of views. They just don't fit with mine...



I am not complaining about a lack of info/meta. I am complaining that you two read too much into past games...

On February 09 2017 23:22 sharkie wrote:
Also silver what team would you propose to send currently? Same as RT's?

On February 09 2017 23:33 sharkie wrote:


Well you used meta a few days ago to put vivax/grack on the resistance side and me on the spy side. Clearly that did not work as you had hoped it would be. If you had been wrong once, why not wrong twice?
After such a 180 from Grack (which you clearly would have never expected), why is not that not liable for vivax?

On February 09 2017 23:35 Grackaroni wrote:

I know but you're calling sharkie town over Vivax while saying that you can't fathom why I changed my read.

On February 09 2017 23:38 Grackaroni wrote:
You shifted your read on sharkie while saying you can't understand how I could have done that.

On February 09 2017 23:33 sharkie wrote:


Well you used meta a few days ago to put vivax/grack on the resistance side and me on the spy side. Clearly that did not work as you had hoped it would be. If you had been wrong once, why not wrong twice?
After such a 180 from Grack (which you clearly would have never expected), why is not that not liable for vivax?

On February 09 2017 23:53 sharkie wrote:


That is total meta...
The meta being that Grack and vivax read each other in other games.

On February 09 2017 23:57 sharkie wrote:


Where the heck am I accusing you ever of being a spy? O.O

On February 10 2017 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
I think you also said something about me being scum for being open about how I was going to vote, which was actually another argument lifted from Artanis like one page back, which is pretty funny because it reinforces my point.

On February 10 2017 03:46 Grackaroni wrote:

What are you trying to say here?

On February 10 2017 03:55 Grackaroni wrote:

I love how anything said against you is mudslinging, and everyone that ever scum reads you is scum in a plot to waver on your alignment because you've been selected for a mission.

I would really like to be you for a day.

On February 10 2017 04:44 RtaniSoul wrote:
Alright. Vivax, Silverika, Grack, can you link the best scumgames you've ever played? (and with a list of your scumbuddies if it's not obvious in the OP).

On February 10 2017 04:50 RtaniSoul wrote:

Why are you getting upset at this simple request? I asked for the best game you feel you've played, I really don't understand why that would upset you.