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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:07 GMT
#741
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:07 GMT
#742
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.

hf tunneled onto hapa all game and still
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:08 GMT
#743
On January 18 2017 02:06 Hapahauli wrote:
HF, that case is entirely bullshit, because you assume this is a normal game. It's not. Up until this morning, it's been an unproductive snoozefest where no one has been able to do much of anything, let alone look townie or find mafia.

What do you make of my push on you? You obviously disagree with it as either alignment. But is the push likely to come from town me or mafia me?


I have no idea because I don't know what a staple town you or mafia you is. I'm going by what I imagine a player that has been lynched 0-1 times as town would play and I know you're capable of wall of flashy text. I think all your reasons for voting people are surface level and say nothing.

It has minimal pages but there's a LOT of content to go on.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:08 GMT
#744
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

what do u mean its the other way around, now?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#745
On January 18 2017 02:08 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

what do u mean its the other way around, now?


ls is voting me over hapa
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22395 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#746
On January 18 2017 02:07 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.

hf tunneled onto hapa all game and still


Yes but I have offered him plenty of opportunity to jump on Damdred and he didn't. He didn't eat the bait.
And I don't see why you continue that line when I just said it's wifom.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#747
On January 18 2017 02:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:06 Hapahauli wrote:
HF, that case is entirely bullshit, because you assume this is a normal game. It's not. Up until this morning, it's been an unproductive snoozefest where no one has been able to do much of anything, let alone look townie or find mafia.

What do you make of my push on you? You obviously disagree with it as either alignment. But is the push likely to come from town me or mafia me?


I have no idea because I don't know what a staple town you or mafia you is. I'm going by what I imagine a player that has been lynched 0-1 times as town would play and I know you're capable of wall of flashy text. I think all your reasons for voting people are surface level and say nothing.

It has minimal pages but there's a LOT of content to go on.

agreed and agreed

personally, guys, i dont want to lynch HF right now

he is playing better and more townie than some (damdred, ls, alakaslam) to name 3
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#748
I don't particularly care about being lynched but please actually read hapa's filter/my posts afterwards, don't let him slide.

I'll try and put in the work in the last 20 minutes that I have?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#749
On mobile
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

I liked you plus vivax's case on HF when I caught up and I also noted how I thought hf was a little nitpicky on Damdred -.-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#750
On January 18 2017 02:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:07 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.

hf tunneled onto hapa all game and still


Yes but I have offered him plenty of opportunity to jump on Damdred and he didn't. He didn't eat the bait.
And I don't see why you continue that line when I just said it's wifom.


damdred
is
a
coin
flip

I don't think hapa is.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#751
On January 18 2017 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:08 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

what do u mean its the other way around, now?


ls is voting me over hapa

i took what ls said as he suspected u over hapa when he said it earlier was there a point he flip flopped on that because there was definitely a period he "wasnt sure who was the "s" in his T V S" he called between u two
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#752
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.


It's too early to say where HF will ultimately have his vote after today.

Because Damdred is an inactive coinflip. I've said this earlier. And based on how the thread direction was before the Holyflare stuff, there was nothing else being pushed except for Damdred. As if mafia was comfortable letting that happen. That's no bueno to me.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 17 2017 17:11 GMT
#753
Would let you lynch me over HF. I think he is a coin flip at best and the chance that he is town and wins it for me would give him mvp and me the second most points for saving him. Im willing to risk it.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:11 GMT
#754
On January 18 2017 02:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On mobile
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

I liked you plus vivax's case on HF when I caught up and I also noted how I thought hf was a little nitpicky on Damdred -.-


Which I dropped when I completely saw the points hapa made??? Explain why it was nitpicky LS.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:11 GMT
#755
On January 18 2017 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:07 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:06 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote:
The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred.

Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred.
Rels doesn't.
HF doesn't.

These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment.

Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it.

And that's fishy.

And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around.


I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot.

I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to.


Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one?

If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred?

HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom.

hf tunneled onto hapa all game and still


Yes but I have offered him plenty of opportunity to jump on Damdred and he didn't. He didn't eat the bait.
And I don't see why you continue that line when I just said it's wifom.


damdred
is
a
coin
flip

I don't think hapa is.

u know ur alignment tho and a coin flip on unhelpful town (if hes tails vs heads scum) is better to you than you as town no?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22395 Posts
January 17 2017 17:11 GMT
#756
Since when are people with 3 pages of filter considered coinflips?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#757
On January 18 2017 02:11 Onegu wrote:
Would let you lynch me over HF. I think he is a coin flip at best and the chance that he is town and wins it for me would give him mvp and me the second most points for saving him. Im willing to risk it.

this follows what u said earlier that in mylo hf would nail mafia and i agree but i dont want to lose u because i have a town read on you so why cant we find someone other than EITHER of u
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#758
@ HOlyflare

I'm obviously not getting lynched today - who else should hang?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#759
Doesn't convinced me.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:

Hapa spent the first half of the cycle with 0 scum reads.

Doesn't make him scum.

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
He wanted people to discuss as much as they could but instead of letting people discuss and possibly get more information he was more concerned about getting called out for inactivity and shutting down the damdred push only to say it's not alignment indicative.

Hapa asks pointless questions that lead nowhere and don't seem to formulate into a thought process that leads from one place to another. For instance, his questions on damdred's posts in regards to hapa (that soft defences make damdred happy and then not) don't make sense because it's quite obviously not scummy to contradict yourself within four minutes. Hapa presses this point when the answers are obvious and lead absolutely nowhere (one of his two only "pushes????" in the game).

Only things I agree with.

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
Hapa doesn't use any thread point of views from any person in this thread to formulate a read on anyone. He bypasses actual thread content to then push surface level things (damdred is mafia for not doing much) and ignores when something contradicts that (for instance many people saying I'm lazy and me telling him damdred's meta can be what he called him mafia for).

All hapa's points are surface level: his push on damdred/onegu(this is like wtf because onege pushed slam for obvious no reasons)/me all. ALL. for inactivity/not pushing things.

Before, but not anymore. He had good points in his push against you. He had good points on Damdred being maybe town.

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
Hapa's posts are interspersed with questions that are made to think like he's following up on stuff and leading somewhere but then never concluding anything from it despite the things being scummy or towny for example his ls question of "oh ls is playing to his scum meta now, what's up?" but ls never appearing ever again in his filter.

So ?

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
Hapa's inability to find scum despite being one of the best people on the site not being able to find mafia when there's many reasons to mafia read people is ridiculous.

Well, if he's town, you're using these many reasons to mafia read people to push him.

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
Hapa's vote on damdred COMPLETELY disappearing after damdred has done absolutely nothing to change that. Hapa's scum team was damdred/slam and damdred afkd. Hapa's reason to get off damdred is that mafia aren't trying to change it. If mafia are slam and damdred like he thought then how is slam the afker going to change anything and how is damdred going to change that within the minimal amount of hours that hapa had already unvoted. No chance was given for damdred to do anything that warranted the unvote.

People changing their mind when nothing is happening is probably more town indicative than scum indicative.

On January 18 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
Hapa just cares about pushing things to look good but not about the answers or how he gets there, see case.jpg for further info

If that was true he wuld still be sitting on Damdred.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#760
On January 18 2017 02:10 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:08 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also I absolutely hate how nobody is talking about LS. (I guess my fault) BUT he's spent the entirety of the first 24 hours of the game doing nothing but waiting for damdred and then when damdred finally answered it's "oh, okay" and then just leaves again until the wagon on me starts and he has to vote somewhere at which point he states he has no idea how to read me.

Out of the fight of hapa/hf he even said it was hapa most likely mafia and hasn't commented on anything since but now it's the other way around.

what do u mean its the other way around, now?


ls is voting me over hapa

i took what ls said as he suspected u over hapa when he said it earlier was there a point he flip flopped on that because there was definitely a period he "wasnt sure who was the "s" in his T V S" he called between u two

On January 17 2017 01:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable
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