EPTLiquidmania Qualifier #2 - Page 37
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Bill Murray
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Rels
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On January 18 2017 01:52 Vivax wrote: Addendum: It was one of the reasons he unvoted Damdred for. And it's a pretty bad reason in my opinion given that the wagon had at most three people, one of them with a meaningless vote. So speaking of thread direction is a stretch. Disagree about that. Damdred had 3 votes but it looked like it was gonna the default lynch. Especially after the post swhere Damdred goes "I'm gonna be AFK after XXX, if you wanna lynch me then go for it". From Hapa PoV I don't think that's weird to think Damdred was gonna be a default lynch that was gonna result in a ML, since he was voting him but was not super convinced about him | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 18 2017 01:50 Holyflare wrote: if you care then link me your mafia games with a liquid hearthstone filter link please You asked me to do this 10 mintues before deadline, really? It never occured to you to do this before? I"ll grab some. It's too late probalby. | ||
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Bill Murray
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Vivax
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Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred. Rels doesn't. HF doesn't. These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment. Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it. And that's fishy. And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around. | ||
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Vivax
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On January 18 2017 01:56 Rels wrote: Disagree about that. Damdred had 3 votes but it looked like it was gonna the default lynch. Especially after the post swhere Damdred goes "I'm gonna be AFK after XXX, if you wanna lynch me then go for it". From Hapa PoV I don't think that's weird to think Damdred was gonna be a default lynch that was gonna result in a ML, since he was voting him but was not super convinced about him And I disagree about two votes looking like a default lynch as Hapa would know that HF was likely to change his vote. Two votes with a full roster really don't a default lynch make. | ||
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Hapahauli
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Hapahauli http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/398360-this-town-aint-big-enough-mafia?user=Hapahauli http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/381440-mario-mini-mafia?user=Hapahauli My last 3 mafia games, most recent first. Lynched Day 4 in the most recent. I was lurkery past Day 1, and just gave up later in the game. Entire Obs QT had me nailed as mafia. Thread... not so much. Lynched Day 3 in "This Town Ain't Big Enough". I had to double-bus my inactive teammates which gave me some cover, then just gave up Day 3 when town sentiment swung against me. Lynched Day 1 in Mario trying to spam and failing miserably scum-slipping everywhere. | ||
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Bill Murray
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Vivax
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That makes the argument absolutely ridiculous actually. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Hapa spent the first half of the cycle with 0 scum reads. He wanted people to discuss as much as they could but instead of letting people discuss and possibly get more information he was more concerned about getting called out for inactivity and shutting down the damdred push only to say it's not alignment indicative. Hapa asks pointless questions that lead nowhere and don't seem to formulate into a thought process that leads from one place to another. For instance, his questions on damdred's posts in regards to hapa (that soft defences make damdred happy and then not) don't make sense because it's quite obviously not scummy to contradict yourself within four minutes. Hapa presses this point when the answers are obvious and lead absolutely nowhere (one of his two only "pushes????" in the game). Hapa doesn't use any thread point of views from any person in this thread to formulate a read on anyone. He bypasses actual thread content to then push surface level things (damdred is mafia for not doing much) and ignores when something contradicts that (for instance many people saying I'm lazy and me telling him damdred's meta can be what he called him mafia for). All hapa's points are surface level: his push on damdred/onegu(this is like wtf because onege pushed slam for obvious no reasons)/me all. ALL. for inactivity/not pushing things. Hapa's posts are interspersed with questions that are made to think like he's following up on stuff and leading somewhere but then never concluding anything from it despite the things being scummy or towny for example his ls question of "oh ls is playing to his scum meta now, what's up?" but ls never appearing ever again in his filter. Hapa's inability to find scum despite being one of the best people on the site not being able to find mafia when there's many reasons to mafia read people is ridiculous. Hapa's vote on damdred COMPLETELY disappearing after damdred has done absolutely nothing to change that. Hapa's scum team was damdred/slam and damdred afkd. Hapa's reason to get off damdred is that mafia aren't trying to change it. If mafia are slam and damdred like he thought then how is slam the afker going to change anything and how is damdred going to change that within the minimal amount of hours that hapa had already unvoted. No chance was given for damdred to do anything that warranted the unvote. Hapa just cares about pushing things to look good but not about the answers or how he gets there, see case.jpg for further info | ||
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Holyflare
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On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote: The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred. Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred. Rels doesn't. HF doesn't. These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment. Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it. And that's fishy. And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around. I don't care about lynching damdred. For the last time I think he's a coin flip. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 18 2017 01:59 Vivax wrote: The thought just occurred to me that mafia isn't trying to lynch Damdred. Hapa doesn't want to lynch Damdred. Rels doesn't. HF doesn't. These are the guys I'm wondering about being scum mostly for the moment. Nobody except me seems to do. I'm like an open arms invitation to a Damdred mislynch since any scummer will know I'm supporting it and will try to put as much weight as possible behind it. And that's fishy. And LS looks fishy too cause he simply isn't around. I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot. I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to. | ||
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Rels
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On January 18 2017 02:00 Vivax wrote: Make it one vote as one of the two besides me was Hapa himself. That makes the argument absolutely ridiculous actually. Its not about the number of votes. I also thought Damdred was at risk of being lynched at some point. And I reread his filter to make up my mind about him | ||
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Rels
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Vivax
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On January 18 2017 02:03 Hapahauli wrote: I think everyone in the thread would "settle" for a Damdred lynch, which I dislike a lot. I don't think mafia has been pushing much of anything, mostly because they haven't had to. Why would you dislike it if it's obvious that mafia isn't pushing him, as I am the only one? If HF is mafia and Damdred isn't, why is nobody besides me trying to bring more attention to Damdred? HF himself not trying to deflect the lynch off himself onto Damdred looks townie at glance but I treat it as wifom. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
What do you make of my push on you? You obviously disagree with it as either alignment. But is the push likely to come from town me or mafia me? | ||
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Bill Murray
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