Newbie Student Mafia XXV - Page 2

On January 06 2017 22:56 Vivax wrote:


How does that question have anything to do with your alignment?



Grack no opinion yet, as for calix I just let her do her thing as she's active and keeps delivering her view of the game. Right now I'm mostly waiting for you and Kelsier to post more as your posts are what I'm concentrating the most on at the moment.

So do you actually believe you have something on ika or not? That he tried to appear useful with the questionnaire is I think not an argument you mentioned earlier.

On January 07 2017 02:36 Vivax wrote:


And yours?

On January 06 2017 21:29 Vivax wrote:


I guessed that's just his way of doing things, ie judging people by perceived usefulness/compliance. And 1gu really looks like he's doing the least, which sadly isn't alignment indicative. BTDT still has to post but when he does it's usually a lot.

There's a townie simplicity to Bostons posts, but that's just a first impression, and of course it's just an early read. Still need a grasp of how much he is actually following the game given he claims to have read and reread it and even took notes. Just voting 1gu doesn't give much info.

On January 07 2017 04:38 Kmatt wrote:
reps)squishy
Made one relevant post and bailed. It's too early to call anyone hard scum on that, but if he doesn't show up soon I'll consider him on the radar.

MichaelEhrmantraut
Well he's not dead but not very alive either. I took forever making this myself so I can't be too rustled over the afk. Just another one passing by, null for now.

ika42
While the questionnaire is still NAI to me, the back and forth with Vivax looked good to me. An easy trap for mafia to fall into is to take any townread they can get. I'll go town here geso

Silverwolf77
I can see why you don't like Vivax's posts, but I don't agree with you enough to vote on him as is. I do like the way you prodded here. Like Vivax said earlier, this looks more like two town bumping into each other.

B0stonSC
I don't like it. I wouldn't be half as bothered if he hadn't come back in to post this



And then leave again doing nothing. The hasty vote looks to me like he's trying to appear useful without having done anything. If I had to commit to a vote now this guy is the perfect balance of afk and dubious, if not scummy.

beentheredonethat
pls

Grackaroni
Still waiting on more. Like with SW, I don't scumread this guy enough to vote him, but I can see why Kelsier wouldn't like him. A bit too quick to jump the gun but I've done that myself and everyone plays D1 differently.

If you could weigh in on the situation at hand I'd feel better. Leaning scum but not enough to vote while Boston is here.

KelsierSC
Town enough for me. No one post stands out enough but he hasn't caught my ire. Except that part about doubting me hOW daRe You

Onegu
AFK. Not much more to say here, with the vote being so far off. Too early to call scum.

darthfoley
His posts are decent, but I'd like a read or two this far in. He's clearly kept up with the thread, pointed out posts he did and didn't like, but no conclusions. If you had to place your vote in the next 5 minutes, who would it be? Or who would you call against voting on?

Calix
Nothing groundbreaking either but with how slow the game is I can't fault it too hard. Basically the same as Foley.

Vivax
I don't like any of his posts individually but is among the only people being active and pushing. As I said above, town arguing with town.

So to conclude... not a lot. We had one little argument but nothing major came of it. Plenty of time before the vote so hopefully someone says something silly and gets a wagon going [small][small][small][small]other than me[small][small][small][small].

On January 07 2017 05:17 Calix wrote:


No and not really aside from what I pointed out earlier re: town reads which we've discussed. Waiting to see what he does next.

While I'm here, why do you differentiate between noobs and vets in your posts? That's popping up a fair bit in your posts.

Your point on Boston isn't terrible.

On January 07 2017 05:32 Calix wrote:


I see, I see.

What did you get out of kmatt's post in terms of how you read him? There's definitely a lot to discuss there :D

On January 07 2017 05:42 Kmatt wrote:


I don't consider "I like/dislike X post" to be a read if it's not followed by "...and therefore [name] is [town/scum]". You can preface it too if you want; I'm not picky.

On January 07 2017 02:46 darthfoley wrote:


Of the three of you, I liked SW's responses the best. They seem natural and attentive without being scared of making conclusions. I am town reading her

I understand your initial questioning, but I don't like how you play semantics over the B0ston thing. Your first sentence is clearly more than a read imo



It's understandable why people think you're answering for him, indirectly with the "I guess" qualifier. So I don't like that you deflected and then kind of pulled an "OMGUS, the questions I got weren't up to my liking!"

On January 07 2017 05:51 Kmatt wrote:


Okay fair, I did miss the magic word there.

On January 07 2017 05:39 Kmatt wrote:



To preface, the majority of these are gut reads. I probably should have said that first. With how little context I applied to those posts I thought that was assumed.

1) ME came back and at least acknowledged the situation at hand. Still not town but he's at least in the thread, which is more than can be said for a few people. What stuck out with Boston is dropping his vote right away and insisting Grack is scum. If he used that as pressure or a segway into questioning Grack's posts I could get but as soon as he makes that call it's radio silence. Then a little shitpost to remind us how despite not doing anything practical he's still watching the thread.

2) I don't personally scumread Grack, but I can see why Kelsier does. However, were it me in his position (that is to say, scumreading Grack for the same reasons) it wouldn't be a strong enough read to conclude anything. I don't, however, expect Kelsier to play out the game as I would, and I'm aware that people have different D1 strategies, so I'm willing to leave it at that.

3) KSC is more of a gut read. There aren't any major lines of questioning or conclusion I can point to to say "this is why he's town" but the acceptable amount of activity agrees with my gut enough to work with. Specifically that he has a scumread and isn't afraid to show it. You and DF both respond to people's posts, but you never seem to come out with anything other than that you "like" or "dislike" a specific post. I can understand reserving judgement on some people but you can't stay neutral on everyone in the game for much longer.

4) In this case, yes I do.

5) Deal w/ it. One scumread is good enough for me D1, since I only have one vote to use. No point making excess calls.

6) I could push my own reads but between my scumreads being mainly afk and the town quieting down I don't have much to ask. It's not that I won't act unless someone "says something silly", but from nearly every game I've played/watched, the D1 lynch comes down to someone saying something dumb and getting ML'd for it. So far I've either been the one who shoots themselves in the foot or points out the bloody foot. Crazy as it may sound I'm going to avoid actively creating or becoming a mislynch if I can help it.

Yeah my initiative has been weak but like I said above I've not a lot to ask right now. I did try to fish some reads out of DF which kind of worked.

On January 07 2017 07:58 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vivax's posts have been really townie.

Of the active players I think that DF is the most likely one to be scum.

Parts of his opening seem awkward to me like he is trying too hard.



I also think that Vivax may have a point that he could have been trying to push out a read on ika to impress since he said that he didn't like ika making trolly posts and then proceeded to make a few of his own.

On January 07 2017 08:09 Grackaroni wrote:

Perhaps. It just doesn't feel like natural posting to me.

On January 07 2017 07:28 Calix wrote:
Boston is just in his own little world, detached from the thread and floating by without a single fuck given for all the other stuff going on. His entrance was terrible and his follow-up just reinforces my read. He is too hung up on a player who hasn't DONE anything and is relatively inactive with no reason given and doesn't talk about anything else. Furthermore, he's not actually following through on his Onegu read or vote with anything substantial or trying to convince people or caring much. He's just there.

If we're going for someone low-activity then this is the most likely to hit scum atm.

##vote B0stonSC

On January 07 2017 08:25 Grackaroni wrote:

I don't think Kelsier has been around since then. I like his tone a lot. Kmatt seems fine to me. His reads post doesn't look great but that's pretty much to be expected when all of the reads are still really shallow.

I'd be more curious on watching how Ika and SW read each other since they have an idea of each other's normal play. Right now I assume they're both town. Definitely not a day 1 lynch at the very least.