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On January 14 2017 10:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 09:58 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 09:56 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
That's not why we shot SW though. lol. I can't believe that. It's pretty simple, my dear. Shoot the people you can't discredit in MYLO. Also had the nice benefit of weakening ika's standing in the town. Oh sure. it was way more likely you would discredit the fucking confirmed blue vig... Come on. Maybe it wasn't your main reason or second reason or even maybe third. But there is always a reason and that is what ika is pointing out. nk aren't random. And there are enough games in which some guy accidentally posts the entire scumteam somewhere during the day, changes his mind but still gets shot over more influential people. Palmar is a pretty good mafia player and his tactic literally is: 'You scumread me? I shoot you". And it works cuz nobody is left to lynch him.
Yeah we were gonna shoot kmatt N3 but then the modkill happened and shooting the active credible player > lurky sheep town was way better.
You're not entirely wrong since that was why we shot Vivax N1 even though few people took him seriously.
I have some questions. Did you scum-read me during the game? If so, what gave me away? Would love some advice there from the One and Only Koshi 
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On January 14 2017 10:02 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 09:44 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 09:40 disformation wrote:On January 14 2017 09:37 Calix wrote:
Also I really hate night kill analysis. I'm the sort of person who prefers focusing on what you can see in the thread so when people waste time with NKA, it annoys me. I think the concept of trying to figure out why scum shot someone when they're still a team and you do not know their motivations for sure is stupid. It's not as bad when one scummer's left though. fair enough. it can be very very wifom. still you have access to reads of a confirmed town now. shouldnt hurt to take a peek. (wish i would do this more often myself) In my opinion, alignments can be determined solely by post analysis and everything else is WIFOM that scum can use to frame townies or "confirm" themselves. People who rely on that as a crutch are admitting that they are so bad at reading players that they cannot use the words/ actions that the player ACTUALLY took to determine their alignment. I think I would have been more pissed off as town at how much time was spent on discussing the night kill... It's completely unnecessary. I never said to rely on NKA alone. That is indeed very bad. But it is a tool that can help or add to building a case. Some ppl are pretty hard to catch solely with post analysis. Esp. in a disharmonic town.
"pretty hard to catch"
That's where the fun is.
I'm not expecting people to agree with me since it's so ingrained in site meta/s but don't expect me to start using it in my analysis. I'm basically just posting this shit to quote in future games if anyone calls me out for saying "NKA sucks and you suck for using it" 
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On January 14 2017 10:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:04 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 10:00 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:58 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 09:56 Koshi wrote:On January 14 2017 09:53 Calix wrote:
That's not why we shot SW though. lol. I can't believe that. It's pretty simple, my dear. Shoot the people you can't discredit in MYLO. Also had the nice benefit of weakening ika's standing in the town. Oh sure. it was way more likely you would discredit the fucking confirmed blue vig... Come on. Maybe it wasn't your main reason or second reason or even maybe third. But there is always a reason and that is what ika is pointing out. nk aren't random. And there are enough games in which some guy accidentally posts the entire scumteam somewhere during the day, changes his mind but still gets shot over more influential people. Palmar is a pretty good mafia player and his tactic literally is: 'You scumread me? I shoot you". And it works cuz nobody is left to lynch him. Yeah we were gonna shoot kmatt N3 but then the modkill happened and shooting the active credible player > lurky sheep town was way better. You're not entirely wrong since that was why we shot Vivax N1 even though few people took him seriously. I have some questions. Did you scum-read me during the game? If so, what gave me away? Would love some advice there from the One and Only Koshi I didn't and I am very upset about it. I had darthfoley as sure scum and waffled on and off reps. But I was 1.000% convinced Onegu was mafia but of course he wasn't again. That being said, I call in the excuse of not really reading the thread or playing in it. Because with me in it Vivax and Grack were going to be lock town and we would be dominating the search. Really weird he got so much flak. He got flak for pressuring mafia!darthfoley...
If I got one thing from this game, it's that satisfaction
Yeah, the fact that Vivax/ Grack were major D1 lynch candidates was a real blessing for mafia. I actually thought lynching those two would be hard :D
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I am actually going to start playing more neutral as town. I can't match the level of emotion I have as town as mafia. It's my ultimate scum tell and I can't shake it off.
I'm going to make my town game less emotional/ passionate so that it stops being a tell.
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On January 14 2017 10:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town. Not often anymore people say this you know
Maybe it was because obvscum!Calix was trying to discredit you the moment you walked in
If it's any consolation, the reaction on Skype to seeing that you were the replacement was...amusing.
Speaking of that, shout out to DF and squishy who were great to play with. It's a refreshing change to have a team who you can actually work with instead of lugging around like dead-weight.
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On January 14 2017 10:22 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2017 10:20 Calix wrote:On January 14 2017 10:17 Damdred wrote:On January 14 2017 10:16 disformation wrote:
Well you came in as a super questionable slot and were instantly obvious town. Not often anymore people say this you know Maybe it was because obvscum!Calix was trying to discredit you the moment you walked in If it's any consolation, the reaction on Skype to seeing that you were the replacement was...amusing. Speaking of that, shout out to DF and squishy who were great to play with. It's a refreshing change to have a team who you can actually work with instead of lugging around like dead-weight. Right back atcha. I couldn't be scum because my one scum a year ago was different, right? 
Meanwhile I was obvious town because I was sarcastic and blunt
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On January 14 2017 10:34 darthfoley wrote:
Is it possible to have all three scum as newbies? That would be unfortunate
Of course.
I think Skynx and BTDT can tell you all about that
As for kmatt's posts, I see so much great quote potential. Totally using "MOM GET THE CAMERA" to hint at a vig shot.
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I was also passive/ apathetic because of RL which is why my scum game wasn't that great.
Not saying that this invalidates the meta tell but people questioning me this game based on that shouldn't have been doing that imo.
Going back to game-relevant matters, I feel like it's almost impossible to win as scum against a good town. It doesn't even matter how well your team functions or whether people town-read you if town are functioning even half-properly. I have no idea how mafia wins as often as they do...
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On December 24 2016 02:22 kitaman27 wrote:Player ListNewbies1) reps)squishy the Mafia Roleblocker, survived2) Kmatt the Town Vigilante, endgamed day three3) MichaelEhrmantraut the Vanilla Town, modkilled day two4) ika42 the Vanilla Town, endgamed day three5) SilverWolf77 the Vanilla Town, killed night two6) B0stonSC the Vanilla Town, lynched day threeVets1) beentheredonethat the Vanilla Town, lynched day two2) Grackaroni the Town Doctor, lynched day one3) KelsierSC replaced by damdred the Vanilla Town, endgamed day three4) Onegu the Vanilla Town, endgamed day three5) darthfoley the Mafia Roleblocker, survived6) Calix the Mafia Godfather, survived7) Vivax the Vanilla Town, killed night one
Shouldn't this say "modkilled Night 2" and have darthfoley as the Mafia Goon?
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