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cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 10 2016 20:28 GMT
#421
NU. Remember these weird things we both noticed?

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
- ExO "unwillingly" tries to make a scumread on TW, but couches it in language that blames me
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 10 2016 20:29 GMT
#422
On December 11 2016 05:27 ExO_ wrote:
and if CR was cop where are his breadcrumbs? where is he trying to convince people that TW is fake claiming? If I was the cop and somebody fake claimed I wouldn't post a total of 6 times after my claim and that's it.

He's not making any effort at all. This is so easy it's a joke. I'm surprised cakepie hasn't started saying things like "maybe I'm wrong, I'm doubting myself, maybe CR really is scum" because CR isn't even trying anymore.

I think town has this won. CR/Cakepie scum team

Yeah, that's the biggest point imo. He's not even bothering to sell his claim to the town.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:29 GMT
#423
On December 11 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 04:59 ExO_ wrote:
On December 11 2016 00:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:
ExO:

You say you are 100% behind TW's claim. How confident in % are you in your reads of me, Ray and CP?

How do you explain TW scum-reading his green-check the entirety of day 1 and making cases on 3 of the 5 other players, starting with his green-check and not doing a case on who he scum-read and ended up checking?

Similarly to CP, day 1 you said that I could be scum, but never really got in detail there. I found it suspicious that you said that you wish that I were here more when I had been pretty active before that day, yet, you had never engaged me. It felt like a back-stab ie you TR me when I'm here and start discussing the possiblity of me being scum when I'm away. Why did/do you think I could be scum?

Please tell me why you think CP is scum.

[...]

And again Day 1 I wrote the impressions I got as I read the thread. What motivation would I have to "backstab" you as scum? I wasn't trying to push you when you were afk at all. I find it a bit odd that right now you seem to care a lot about what people thought/think about you. But that's something to consider for another time.


It's not because the read is about me that I'm asking for the 'why'. It's because you threw out a 'possible' mafia read in the thread and left it there with no explanation and never referred to it later. Idc how others have been perceiving me re: I didn't even respond to Ray's/H1's cases/reasons as to why they thought I was scum. It's just not right for you nor CP to call me scum with nothing to show for.

But you're dodging the question re: Why did/do you think I could be scum?


Because I don't have perfect information, and because I have a history in mafia games of completely misreading people. Look at touhou mafia I was sure that Skynx couldn't be scum and he was. I don't think you are scum, but it's not impossible. The longer this thread goes on the less and less I think you are scum but I cannot know for sure
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 10 2016 20:30 GMT
#424
On December 11 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
But you're dodging the question re: Why did/do you think I could be scum?


ExO has been dodging questions all game long.
- Why is TW town in #98
- Why he doesn't think TW buddied NU
- etc etc. in my case which I hope you've read.

He's still dodging.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 10 2016 20:30 GMT
#425
On December 11 2016 05:28 cakepie wrote:
NU. Remember these weird things we both noticed?

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
- ExO "unwillingly" tries to make a scumread on TW, but couches it in language that blames me

Yes? That makes CRay cop?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 10 2016 20:31 GMT
#426
On December 11 2016 05:29 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On December 11 2016 04:59 ExO_ wrote:
On December 11 2016 00:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:
ExO:

You say you are 100% behind TW's claim. How confident in % are you in your reads of me, Ray and CP?

How do you explain TW scum-reading his green-check the entirety of day 1 and making cases on 3 of the 5 other players, starting with his green-check and not doing a case on who he scum-read and ended up checking?

Similarly to CP, day 1 you said that I could be scum, but never really got in detail there. I found it suspicious that you said that you wish that I were here more when I had been pretty active before that day, yet, you had never engaged me. It felt like a back-stab ie you TR me when I'm here and start discussing the possiblity of me being scum when I'm away. Why did/do you think I could be scum?

Please tell me why you think CP is scum.

[...]

And again Day 1 I wrote the impressions I got as I read the thread. What motivation would I have to "backstab" you as scum? I wasn't trying to push you when you were afk at all. I find it a bit odd that right now you seem to care a lot about what people thought/think about you. But that's something to consider for another time.


It's not because the read is about me that I'm asking for the 'why'. It's because you threw out a 'possible' mafia read in the thread and left it there with no explanation and never referred to it later. Idc how others have been perceiving me re: I didn't even respond to Ray's/H1's cases/reasons as to why they thought I was scum. It's just not right for you nor CP to call me scum with nothing to show for.

But you're dodging the question re: Why did/do you think I could be scum?


Because I don't have perfect information, and because I have a history in mafia games of completely misreading people. Look at touhou mafia I was sure that Skynx couldn't be scum and he was. I don't think you are scum, but it's not impossible. The longer this thread goes on the less and less I think you are scum but I cannot know for sure

wtf that's the definition of an empty read
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:31 GMT
#427
On December 11 2016 05:28 cakepie wrote:
NU. Remember these weird things we both noticed?

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
- ExO "unwillingly" tries to make a scumread on TW, but couches it in language that blames me


Can you make a single case on TW that doesn't rely on association? And I never blamed you, I said I was doubting my read because I was trusting yours too much (because I Thought you were Calix from the last mafia game)
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:32 GMT
#428
On December 11 2016 05:31 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:29 ExO_ wrote:
On December 11 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On December 11 2016 04:59 ExO_ wrote:
On December 11 2016 00:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:
ExO:

You say you are 100% behind TW's claim. How confident in % are you in your reads of me, Ray and CP?

How do you explain TW scum-reading his green-check the entirety of day 1 and making cases on 3 of the 5 other players, starting with his green-check and not doing a case on who he scum-read and ended up checking?

Similarly to CP, day 1 you said that I could be scum, but never really got in detail there. I found it suspicious that you said that you wish that I were here more when I had been pretty active before that day, yet, you had never engaged me. It felt like a back-stab ie you TR me when I'm here and start discussing the possiblity of me being scum when I'm away. Why did/do you think I could be scum?

Please tell me why you think CP is scum.

[...]

And again Day 1 I wrote the impressions I got as I read the thread. What motivation would I have to "backstab" you as scum? I wasn't trying to push you when you were afk at all. I find it a bit odd that right now you seem to care a lot about what people thought/think about you. But that's something to consider for another time.


It's not because the read is about me that I'm asking for the 'why'. It's because you threw out a 'possible' mafia read in the thread and left it there with no explanation and never referred to it later. Idc how others have been perceiving me re: I didn't even respond to Ray's/H1's cases/reasons as to why they thought I was scum. It's just not right for you nor CP to call me scum with nothing to show for.

But you're dodging the question re: Why did/do you think I could be scum?


Because I don't have perfect information, and because I have a history in mafia games of completely misreading people. Look at touhou mafia I was sure that Skynx couldn't be scum and he was. I don't think you are scum, but it's not impossible. The longer this thread goes on the less and less I think you are scum but I cannot know for sure

wtf that's the definition of an empty read


It's not an empty read, its the opposite of my actual read. I think you are town, but you're asking me why I think you're scum.

If I wasn't so sure that CR/Cakepie are the scum team I'd be pretty wtf about why you are even asking about this right now.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 10 2016 20:34 GMT
#429
On December 11 2016 05:31 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:28 cakepie wrote:
NU. Remember these weird things we both noticed?

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
- ExO "unwillingly" tries to make a scumread on TW, but couches it in language that blames me


Can you make a single case on TW that doesn't rely on association? And I never blamed you, I said I was doubting my read because I was trusting yours too much (because I Thought you were Calix from the last mafia game)


Sure. The earliest one is still

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
Scumslip. Trying to fake activity by discussing plan together with NU.
Goes into blind enumeration mode. Forgets about mylo which he obviously knows.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:34 GMT
#430
On December 11 2016 05:30 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:
But you're dodging the question re: Why did/do you think I could be scum?


ExO has been dodging questions all game long.
- Why is TW town in #98
- Why he doesn't think TW buddied NU
- etc etc. in my case which I hope you've read.

He's still dodging.


What does this have to do with CR being cop?

only TW or CR is dying today, thats the only possibility. There's no way any reasonable person will believe the low effort CR is the real cop over TW here. TW hasn't played perfectly but nobody ever does. I'll take his posts and his effort over CR's trash any day
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:35 GMT
#431
On December 11 2016 05:34 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:31 ExO_ wrote:
On December 11 2016 05:28 cakepie wrote:
NU. Remember these weird things we both noticed?

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
- ExO "unwillingly" tries to make a scumread on TW, but couches it in language that blames me


Can you make a single case on TW that doesn't rely on association? And I never blamed you, I said I was doubting my read because I was trusting yours too much (because I Thought you were Calix from the last mafia game)


Sure. The earliest one is still

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
Scumslip. Trying to fake activity by discussing plan together with NU.
Goes into blind enumeration mode. Forgets about mylo which he obviously knows.


Trying to fake activity? TW has a SIX page filter, CR has two.

And how is going from mylo to a plan for D3 (which I'm not sure this is what happened, but for the sake of refuting your argument lets say it did) confirming him as scum?

And more importantly:

What has CR done to make you believe his cop claim?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:40 GMT
#432
##Vote: ChairmanRay

I'm going to go ahead and do this, I don't see any more reason to wait. If you have a reason why we shouldn't vote already let me know soon NU, before I go play more PoE or dota.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 10 2016 20:41 GMT
#433
On December 11 2016 05:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:28 cakepie wrote:
NU. Remember these weird things we both noticed?

- TW goes from mylo to a plan for D3
- ExO "unwillingly" tries to make a scumread on TW, but couches it in language that blames me

Yes? That makes CRay cop?


No. You jolly well know that I only have CRay cop by process of elimination.

I need to show you why TW and ExO are scum individually, then by the association.
I need to show you why CRay is town.

All this using reasoning/logic that you're not used to.

My job is not easy but I need you to listen.

Meanwhile, ExO and TW are just going to bombard you with the easy cheap reads you're used to.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 10 2016 20:42 GMT
#434
On December 11 2016 05:40 ExO_ wrote:
##Vote: ChairmanRay

I'm going to go ahead and do this, I don't see any more reason to wait. If you have a reason why we shouldn't vote already let me know soon NU, before I go play more PoE or dota.

I don't have a problem with that. I'll wait for him to come back from his trip to hear what he has to say before hammering though.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:47 GMT
#435
CR has to be scum. otherwise scum would immediately hammer now.

I know you cannot know for sure that I am town NU, though I would hope I've proven myself by now. But the fact that you aren't immediately hammering, and CP isn't hammering confirms to me CR is scum without a shadow of a doubt. I'm no longer 99% sure, I'm 100% sure CR is scum
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 10 2016 20:51 GMT
#436
NU. How willing are you to follow long reasoning that you're not used to?

I don't sense you're very willing.

Part of it is a generational disconnect. I play in a different way. Ray and H1 also. You don't "get" us intuitively.

Part of it is that I've fucked up with the fakeclaim and the playing suboptimally for a good bit so far D2. I've overinvested earlier in the game but now I'm exhausted and burnt out and making unforced errors.


Are you willing to try to follow, or do you just want me to justify Ray cop in one small bite so you can just get this over with.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 10 2016 20:52 GMT
#437
On December 11 2016 05:47 ExO_ wrote:
CR has to be scum. otherwise scum would immediately hammer now.


Unless, of course, TW and ExO are scum. Duh.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 10 2016 20:56 GMT
#438
I'm willing to hear you and Ray out, though I will say that there is not much chance you're convincing me that TW is scum at this point.

And it has nothing to do with generations.

Nor with the fake-claim.

It's about Ray's claim being BS.

But I'll hear you guys out like I did for TW. If you would please condense as much as possible your case(s), it would be much appreciated.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
December 10 2016 20:57 GMT
#439
I will follow.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 10 2016 20:58 GMT
#440
On December 11 2016 05:52 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:47 ExO_ wrote:
CR has to be scum. otherwise scum would immediately hammer now.


Unless, of course, TW and ExO are scum. Duh.


I think turning this into a 2v2 was a mistake. CR is so clearly scum, and you're going down with him. I guess the play tonight will be to kill me then try to convince NU of something?

If NU is the scum team with CR, NU played a fucking great game. I cannot see this being the scenario I will be blown away if its not CP/CR.
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