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On October 21 2016 03:11 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 02:54 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 02:46 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 02:44 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 02:40 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 02:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyone wanna lynch tolk?
Also Johannes what did you want before its over On October 21 2016 02:36 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 02:32 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 02:29 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 02:19 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 02:08 ptmc wrote:
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how is it not relevant to the situation? It's pretty much the exact same thing he did in the newbie-game, just that he chose to hard scum-read instead of hard town-read this time. do you think koshi is 'obviously' mafia then? Better question, that he was obviously mafia at the time? because what you're describing is following thread sentiment, and while the thread may have that sentiment now, it didn't at the time it was posted. (plenty people said they'd like to kill koshi on principle, not really because he's scum tho) What does me thinking if Koshi is mafia have to do with it? At the time I did have him as a town lean, although he fell of at the end. Someone with meta-reads might make something more of it, but I can't. well if you didn't think so, and the thread didn't think so the read was hardly obvious was it Which is exactly what I called Lunatic out for? Like I don't get what you are saying? no? the opposite:
This reads a lot like the newbie-game where he was scum and just stepped into the thread with an obvious town-read on stutters without anything to back it up tbh.
yes, instead of randomly town-reading he randomly scum-read. It doesn't make it the opposite tho. .... please explain how his read on koshi was obvious if you leaned town on him. thanks. If his read had been obvious it wouldn't have been something to call him out on. Am I not writing this clearly enough? He made a 100% obvious definitive read in the newbie-game in his first post without any reasoning. This is exactly how he started here. His read was not obvious to me, that is my whole point. apparantly not because what i'm getting is 1) in response to someone suspecting lunatic, you say he "reads a lot like the newbie-game where he was scum" because he entered the thread with an obvious and unexplained read on a townie 2) i point out that that is a different situation because his read this game is not obvious (also not a TR). in fact the only similarity is that he doesnt explain it. It looks like you're likening a dude to his scum meta for shoddy reasons. 3) i actually have no idea what your response is supposed to be
1) Yes
2) His read in the previous game was also not obvious? Yes, it was a TR instead of a SR.
3) Lunatics SR was getting picked up on by btdt, and I added meta-reasoning to this initial suspicion.
let me explain the issue even further because it looks to be necessary: spot the difference, and why i might think it's not exactly the same.
Ok, i see where your problem is. Quote one is paraphrasing his statement: he says that the person (here Koshi) is 100% something (here scum). Quote three is about mine (and others) sentiment, that this read is far from obvious.
Lunatic giving a 100% certain read without any reasoning doesn't help change that sentiment. That Koshi started posting like crap after Lunatic called him scum did, however I don't see a connection between the two.
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On October 21 2016 03:21 Holyflare wrote:
And dandel i dunno what yor case is.
Yeah, I don't think my discussion with Dandel helps anything.
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On October 21 2016 03:34 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:33 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:On October 21 2016 03:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
apparantly you're not the only one
at this point i'd be happy just finding out what his posts mean Well it relates to Lunatic in some way right? Lunatic's filter is very scummy. Also ritoky is definitely mafia. Yeh, pmtc or whatever his name is pretty on point. Lunatic's read on koshi was after everyone else started calling out koshi. Lunatic's other reads are one liners that are throwaway comments despite making a post that only important things should be posted. Then he calls me town and mafia like to do that. was it i thought it was before the serious swing dropping it even more i guess
It was before. at least the way I read Koshi's posts.
You're right, I should have put the "obvious" in quotation marks, so that it is clearer that the read was only obvious to Lunatic and to (basically) noone else. If you reread my post with the quotation marks, all my explaining here should also make a lot more sense. And if you look at the newbie game, his read there was also only "obvious" to him. Sorry for the confusion.
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just some boring mechanics-stuff regarding melee attacks
+ Show Spoiler +On October 21 2016 00:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 00:19 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 00:11 Kurumi wrote:On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 00:03 Kurumi wrote:On October 20 2016 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote:On October 20 2016 23:42 Acrofales wrote:On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote:
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You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one. Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum. Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that. You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person. pretty sure everyone (or at least close) has basic KP so why not? 1) I didn't know that. 2) Openly claiming KP might let Mafia protect or stack on the person KP is claimed on. If I remember the scraps of the OP I read correctly, we won't get any information in regards to that. 3) If this claim is to make Holyflare post it's dumb. He's not around. Even if he was, he would most likely ignore it. It's not newb101 who's going to get baited. i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't) if he doesnt thats way better if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him i dont see the downside tbh if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy Thing is I remember there being doto heroes getting stronger through killing people. No idea if items exist or how they work, but we might also donate these to Mafia. You want to lynch him - fine, but as it stands he looks like a piss poor lynch. Iamperfection claimed he needs heals to be effective. That reeks of Abaddon or Pudge. Pudge does also get stronger from kills. So maybe don't allow Iamp to kill shit until we are surer of his alignment. look maybe i dont know shit about doto champs so i cant speak to that but we can potentially have enough combined dmg to vig a scummy (or at least a useless) dude every night essentially if we do it right we get a bonus lynch per cycle that cant be that terrible im pretty sure it's better than some people getting some minor bonuses im pretty sure it's worth that one time we get screwed with, we can just do it all over again worst case we end up lynching the scummies and shooting lurkers. you'll note that this worst case is not very bad. because i dont think it is. unless you think theres something completely crazy that could happen but i actually think this game isn't going to be too wild, that's host wifom tho Not being able to hit anybody who isn't next to you in the player list kinda puts a damper on that. On October 21 2016 00:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 00:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also iamp I can hit anyone I want so maybe melee/ranged is a thing?
PS before anyone starts on me, scum absolutely know all of this already. I move in order to hit I just thought some more about this, and what would happen if more than one melee guy hits the same target and so on. In the resolution it says that attacks are carried out before movement, so I figure that you always hit your designated target, regardless of where you two are in regards to each other. Then in the movement phase you are moved together, and if more than one melee guy attacks then the one closer to the top stays closer to the target.
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On October 21 2016 06:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 06:08 ptmc wrote:just some boring mechanics-stuff regarding melee attacks + Show Spoiler +On October 21 2016 00:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 00:19 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 00:11 Kurumi wrote:On October 21 2016 00:09 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 21 2016 00:03 Kurumi wrote:On October 20 2016 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 20 2016 23:46 Kurumi wrote:On October 20 2016 23:42 Acrofales wrote:On October 20 2016 23:35 Kurumi wrote:
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You are picking Holyflare over Lord Tolkien or Hopeless1der or beentheredonethat? I am supposed to be the insane one. Yes. I actually didn't mind LT's single action so far and want to see more. H1der I don't really have a read on, but he has at least been around enough to ask questions of (at one point). You can say what you like about btdt, but he's not lurking. Convince us to lynch him if you think he's scum. Holyflare is a great target for damaging. He has one shitty post with a throwaway reason for voting. He is a better player than that. You see nothing wrong in claiming KP and claiming your target so early? Besides it being on the wrong person. pretty sure everyone (or at least close) has basic KP so why not? 1) I didn't know that. 2) Openly claiming KP might let Mafia protect or stack on the person KP is claimed on. If I remember the scraps of the OP I read correctly, we won't get any information in regards to that. 3) If this claim is to make Holyflare post it's dumb. He's not around. Even if he was, he would most likely ignore it. It's not newb101 who's going to get baited. i he keeps being afk and we attempt to policy kill a town HF mafia stacking kp on him is benificial to our goals (aka they won't) if he doesnt thats way better if hes mafia and they protect him somehow we can just lynch him i dont see the downside tbh if everyone just basic attacks a different guy we'll never get enough damage together to flip a guy Thing is I remember there being doto heroes getting stronger through killing people. No idea if items exist or how they work, but we might also donate these to Mafia. You want to lynch him - fine, but as it stands he looks like a piss poor lynch. Iamperfection claimed he needs heals to be effective. That reeks of Abaddon or Pudge. Pudge does also get stronger from kills. So maybe don't allow Iamp to kill shit until we are surer of his alignment. look maybe i dont know shit about doto champs so i cant speak to that but we can potentially have enough combined dmg to vig a scummy (or at least a useless) dude every night essentially if we do it right we get a bonus lynch per cycle that cant be that terrible im pretty sure it's better than some people getting some minor bonuses im pretty sure it's worth that one time we get screwed with, we can just do it all over again worst case we end up lynching the scummies and shooting lurkers. you'll note that this worst case is not very bad. because i dont think it is. unless you think theres something completely crazy that could happen but i actually think this game isn't going to be too wild, that's host wifom tho Not being able to hit anybody who isn't next to you in the player list kinda puts a damper on that. On October 21 2016 00:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 00:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also iamp I can hit anyone I want so maybe melee/ranged is a thing?
PS before anyone starts on me, scum absolutely know all of this already. I move in order to hit I just thought some more about this, and what would happen if more than one melee guy hits the same target and so on. In the resolution it says that attacks are carried out before movement, so I figure that you always hit your designated target, regardless of where you two are in regards to each other. Then in the movement phase you are moved together, and if more than one melee guy attacks then the one closer to the top stays closer to the target. Cool, now give me the not boring-mechanics stuff.
will do tomorrow. Good night.
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Ticktock:
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Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town.
Rels:
has done nothing.
Lurker -> Null
Vivax:
has done nothing.
Lurker -> Null
HF:
+ Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town
Skynx:
+ Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny
Iamp:
+ Show Spoiler +needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town.
Sicklucker:
+ Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null
btdt:
+ Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town
Exo:
+ Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean
Lunatic:
+ Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean
Hamazura:
+ Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean
Tubesock:
+ Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean
BM:
+ Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum
Acro:
+ Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch
Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town
Koshi:
starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493
nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean
Eversince:
afk -> null
Kurumi:
his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean
ritoky:
+ Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean
Hopeless:
+ Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today
Dandel:
+ Show Spoiler +claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax
should be town
Wave:
+ Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean
GB:
HF and Acro might be town
votes ritoky as placeholder
useless lurk -> scum lean
LT:
wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before
wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam
useless lurk -> scum lean
Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now
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On October 21 2016 20:02 Dandel Ion wrote:fucking ebwop Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote:
Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.
Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.
ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists? i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else' bookkeepers, man Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads.
I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town.
He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.' its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed. Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.
If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. post your spreadsheet Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. do what i did I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending this sounds pretty good. ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs that's the part that made you feel town? uh ok.
Hey, i said i would do stuff today 
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On October 21 2016 21:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol ptmc you should count your scum team there
yeah, having a solid scum team day 1 is always a good idea
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and do we even know how many mafia there are?
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This is my second game, i played in the last newbie game.
The reads for low content could easily change, if good content comes from those players. Anything specific you disagree with?
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On October 21 2016 21:18 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 21:00 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 20:02 Dandel Ion wrote:fucking ebwop On October 21 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote:
Kurumi- i dont understand this kid. I dont like the way he plays i dont like his list i dont like the self post for no reason i dont even like his name. but on reread seems to be confident he wont be lynched post 1009 he might be trying to figure things out i guess. ill put as null and unvote. Noithing he does makes sense to me though.
Skynx- scum read. Posting stuff but does not seem in my view to be trying to kill mafia. Example post 868 throws some shade on me but does nothing with it.
ExO_- something about his tone just seems unatural to me. Post 368 for example does come across to me as genuine. Literally the only thing in his filter talks about wos and could be that thing were scum catch a mistake by town try to make it scummy and focus on it entirely. Post 420 is bad after some time brings nothing to the table and then later on just talks about wave again. votes for dandel but dosent seem interested in actually killing and talks about wave more not like the content of the list or just that he posts lists? i should read skynx filter im just writing this to remind myself agreed on exo, hes like a btnd without the redeeming activity, but at least with less spamming. 'go down list of scumtells, push those scumtells, ignore everything else' bookkeepers, man On October 21 2016 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also iamp you are like...opposite to me on so many reads.
I don't know why you think any of BTDT's activity makes him top town.
He is literally playing the easiest way for a newer player to do so as either alignment, and that's the way you're 'supposed to.' its the easiest way, but it's still more effort than most noob scums put into scummering. i'm kinda just sitting here waiting if he can keep it up. if he drops we can revisit him but until then im not really concerned. just annoyed. On October 21 2016 11:59 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:53 Acrofales wrote:On October 21 2016 11:51 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 11:49 Acrofales wrote:
It's 4:30 AM and I'm awake because bed bugs wanted to eat me. I am angry and a bit delirious. Who wants to chat.
If tictock's stream of consciousness is real, he feels townie. Still deciding if real or clever scum-ploy. post your spreadsheet Is that allowed? I thought that got forbidden after Chrono trigger mafia. do what i did I have a list post. It's still mostly up to date. I'd be happy with lynching any of the following: Lunaticman Glowingbear Hazura Tako bell Tubesock All for being useless lurkers. Would also lynch Koshi: abrasive, but useless. No reads of his own. No pressure Ptmc: blending this sounds pretty good. ptmc coming in when called out, just defending himself, leaving. (sorry there was also a post purely about game mechanics) the defense itself was fine actually but i still dont like the whole package. i backed off to give him room to do his thing, and no thing was done feels bad man On October 21 2016 14:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Holyflare might be town because he thought ritoky might be mafia for the forced funny gifs that's the part that made you feel town? uh ok. Hey, i said i would do stuff today im an impatient man
fair enough. Do you think Wave had tmi on his amount-of-mafia post?
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I'm not really sure, if mafia really don't have a regular night kill (?) they might be even more to do some damage via regular attacks.
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On October 21 2016 22:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler +
Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now The good: Seems like actual note-taking and effort went into reading the thread. The bad: Waffly and wishy washy. There's no reason scum can't make list posts, and simply calling half the players "scum leans" is not very useful. Then again, half the players are scummy bastards, so hard to make much else of that. Voting for WoS seems meh. We're not gonna kill WoS today, so put in some effort on finding someone else. For instance, you could join me on the H1 train to scumlandia! The ugly: DI claimed techies? Whut?
He claimed the LoL-analogue. I'd want to wait to see if hopeless stays hopeless or if he actually starts playing like he promised. If he doesn't, he's definitely high on the chopping block for actually being in the thread without actually contributing.
Are you not still on the fence for Wave? Or did that change lately? I don't feel like his push on me was based on much more than "omg he voted me", which is pretty terrible.
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On October 21 2016 22:13 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:57 ptmc wrote:Ticktock: + Show Spoiler +
Hopeless' arguing feels town
Exo prob town for his interaction with Wave
Wave's arguing feels town
Iam feels scum
likes BM's post about Wave/Exo
dislikes HF
dislikes me for my post on Wave
likes Acro
dislikes Dandel's return on pg 23 as well as all his shitposting, but feels he has some good posts
says it is normal to not like sicklucker
Basically only productive posts. Town. Rels: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null Vivax: has done nothing. Lurker -> Null HF: + Show Spoiler +votes ritoky for meta-reads
dislikes coordinated attacks
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes koshi for only town-reads and then going afk
wary of wave, since he is only coasting
dislikes the same post that ticktock likes by BM
dislikes more posts by BM, but downgrades to a maybe mafia because he could just be retarded
Thinks Skynx has a shit filter
Thinks lunatics filter is scummy
thinks i'm on point
thinks ritoky hedges a lot
dislikes that GB only placeholder-votes for ritoky
dislikes ticktock for his general style and liking BM's post
productive -> town Skynx: + Show Spoiler +Starts really weak, but then shapes up:
dislikes Tubesock and BM
dislikes LT
pressure on lurkers
still not a lot, but towny Iamp: + Show Spoiler +needs a healer
wants to coordinate
slightly town on ritoky
townreads hopeless, acro, wave, btdt
thinks acro is bad tho
thinks koshi could be town for tone
dislikes HF's lack of activity, gets in argument with Kurumi about it
dislikes Kurumis defense of HF and pushes for votes on him
agrees with HF's assessment of BM
Lists all his reads, null:
Tubesock, no interactions with the thread
Acro, now has a bad feeling about his posts
Kurumi, "nothing he does makes sense to me"
Lunaticman, "I dont fucking now"
BM, doesn't want to read his filter
Holpess, ain't doing shit, no longer tr
Ticktock, dislikes his post on BM, but waiting to see what he does
me, I voted for him and now vote for Wave because he plays sub-optimally, I might be scum
scum:
GB: scum, doesn't do anything
LT, lurker with only trash posts
Skynx: doesn't try to lynch mafia
Exo: unnatural tone, only talks about Wave, vote on Dandel
lurker:
Eversince, Vivax, Rels
Votes Exo, direkting KP towards Lurkers or GB
Wave calls iamp out for not having LT in his list, copies the same reason as he had in his list again
Tries to get Exo out of his tunnel
good read-progression, solid reads imo. town. Sicklucker: + Show Spoiler +claims Bloodseeker
wants coordination
HF leans town
Acro is mafia (soul reading)
dislikes GB
not sold wave is town
iamp is town, because he townread sl and hf
now does not want to stack kp
unsure -> null btdt: + Show Spoiler +Exo's post on Wave feels towny
Dandel is only posting shit, votes him
likes acros, dislikes Lunatics vote (disinterest or scummy)
Koshi is wishy-washy, might be scum
tries to keep the thread clean, towny tone
scumleans dandel, but will not push him atm
starts to push koshi instead
votes koshi
list: Lynch Koshi, Lunatic, Wave, Policy
Maybe Dandel
calls Koshi scum for still only being reactive
Sees even dandel trying to solve the game, but not koshi
dislikes sicklucker
dislikes iamp: not much content, soft koshi defense
dandel sucks again
sticks on Lunatic as well, no longer wants Wave dead, Iamp instead.
Says BM's weird posts fit his meta
back to disliking Wave for dodging questions
very productive, sticks to his reads -> town Exo: + Show Spoiler +Calls out Wave for (fake) claiming Dazzle
dislikes the way Wave follows up on his claim
Dislikes how Dandel clutters the thread, changes vote to dandel
slight town lean on ritoky
not a lot of variance in his filter, but I like that he sticks with his read. -> town lean Lunatic: + Show Spoiler +Koshi is "obviously" scum
does not want to clutter the thread
btdt gets a tone town read
not sure on HF
gets sr by HF, now HF is scum for defending Koshi
I wanted to sr him, but he makes good sense in his defense and provided arguments for his reads -> town lean Hamazura: + Show Spoiler +Dislikes Dandel for shitposting
Dislikes Sicklucker "for the reason HF mentioned"
very little productivity -> scum lean Tubesock: + Show Spoiler +Likes Acro, Exo, Wave, not sure who to lynch
dislikes Koshi, Hamazura, and vivax' inactivity
unsure on GB, doesn't see why people scumread SL while also wanting to consolidate
asks people for their reads
might end up on me, tries to decide about Koshi
hasn't had his eureka moment that gets him productive
nothing tangible in his filter -> scum lean BM: + Show Spoiler +Kurumi is trolling
shitposts for days
gut feeling on ritoky, one of him and hopeless will be mafia (but he could be wrong)
Wave is probably scum, Exo put into words what BM was thinking
dislikes Hopeless
Town: iamp, exo, ritoky, kurumi, Dandel
Scum: WoS, hopeless
Wave has provided enough to unvote
likes tubesock
likes lunatic
thinks koshi is genuine
votes HF
posts self meta as to why he is not mafia
ticktock is mafia
is fine with lynching kurumi for his weird defense of HF
likes Ticktock
I dislike the self-meta stuff, his read progression makes little sense to me -> likely scum Acro: + Show Spoiler +joke-votes Skynx?
votes Iamp for role-fishing
slight tr on exo, null o Wave
wants exo to stop tunneling, but wants to know why wave semi-claimed
scum vibes of koshi -> koshi is town
thread police is a role scum like to take -> btdt
calls lunatic scum for his Koshi-vote
calls HF scum for his ritoky-vote in the same vein
He can't move on his own? Has claimed roshan
unvotes iamp, because he wants to figure him out later
Playing erratic is Kurumis thing?
List: Not liking Skynx, Tubesock, me, GB, Koshi,
on the fence: Wave, iamp, btdt
Town: Damdrel, Exo, Kurumi (good vibe)
Wants to ignore BM
New list with Lunatic, GB, Hamazu, Tubesock as lynches, and Koshi and me -> Skynx missing
LT is useless but he sympathises with LT's list
rereads Helpful, and thinks he is Scum for being a useless lurker
still thinks i am a good lynch Can you please look at BM? other than that, probably town Koshi: starts with a town tone, gets way worse after #493 nothing actually noteworthy in his filter -> scumlean Eversince: afk -> null Kurumi: his posts are not really helpful, and i disagree a fair bit with his lists (if i even decipher them correctly). Posts #1009 and 1012 are decent tho. -> null/scum lean ritoky: + Show Spoiler +likes dandel, dislikes hopeless because he was present and contributed nothing
exo tentatively town
Wave tentatively town
likes that hopeless digs exo out of the tunnel
also town HF, iamp, btdt (for activity), me, kurumi, dandel
GB gets a scum lean for not fighting with HF
gives two cases, for lunatic (not pushing Koshi hard enough as his scum read, his HF read is funky) and GB (no excitement)
productive -> town lean Hopeless: + Show Spoiler +omgus pushes ritoky, but puts him back to null after answers
Charge of Darkness is very close to Wave of Shadow?
dislikes Exo's push -> Vote Exo
tries to get exo out of his tunnel
little meaningful content so far -> scum lean. Said he will play properly today Dandel: + Show Spoiler +claims Techies
reads iamp town because he is funny
gets called out for shitposting by btdt
thinks exo is scum
I liked how he brought up my point on Lunatic, and the interaction we had after it
dislikes Vivax
should be town Wave: + Show Spoiler +(disregarding his "claim" post)
doubts Dandel is scum
suspicious of btdt
Acro and Kurumi are town
lot of filler
Hamazu gets townread
wants to coordinate
sicklucker reeks of scum, would lynch SL or btdt
wants to make LT squirm
scumreads me for voting for him
Still not sure about him, so my vote seems good still. What happened with SL or btdt being your lynches? -> scumlean GB: HF and Acro might be town votes ritoky as placeholder useless lurk -> scum lean LT: wants to lynch people he hasn't played with before wants to kill Kurumi for emote spam useless lurk -> scum lean Now some of this has been outdated (started around page 61 i think), but that is where i am at right now Who do you want to kill I can't tell from this post
Currently Wave. I can handily settle for BM or hopeless, if hopeless doesn't keep his promise to start playing.
The others would be borderline policy lynches, but from best lynch to worst: Tube > Koshi > Hamazu > LT > Vivax = Rels = GB
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On October 21 2016 22:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
I should be in and out most of today.
Acro's case is on me is quite lulzy...and cherry picks a pretty small filter. Could you just...not sheep that terrible excuse of a case? Multiple people have expressed doubt about the case itself, and its relevance since I am notorious for living up to my name.
I dont like ptmc recently setting me up for a lynch that he can easily back off of by saying "oh look, hopeless is posting, not lynching anymore" regardless of how good/bad my content actually is.
Going to check up on Koshi meta in a bit.
I don't care if you post. If you post good stuff I dont want to vote you, if you keep posting bad stuff (and Wave keeps on having no votes) I will vote you.
Koshi also moves closer to my lynch-block for not providing content. I also like the guys on his train.
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are you dire or radiant iamp?
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On October 21 2016 23:23 Tubesock wrote:
Vivax has done this a few times. Posts just enough to not get modkilled. Then the next game he's town he plays again.
Can you give an example? I looked at HM3, where he posted a lot more actively than here.
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On October 21 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 20:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
I skimmed the last 20 pages, and before I go offline again, I wanted to bring up Koshi again. My case still stands and he disappeared. He's playing exactly like he did in the last 3 games where he was scum. This is actually a blatant lie. So annoying. Will lunatic correct this lie? He knows I played super active in the Palmar Themed Game.
What happened to your ritoky-read?
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On October 21 2016 23:31 iamperfection wrote:Why do you want to know?
I have healing targeting specifically one of them, and i would like to know if you are among them. If you don't want to tell me i'll just have to try at some point.
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On October 21 2016 23:45 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 23:36 ptmc wrote:On October 21 2016 23:31 iamperfection wrote:On October 21 2016 23:24 ptmc wrote:
are you dire or radiant iamp? Why do you want to know? I have healing targeting specifically one of them, and i would like to know if you are among them. If you don't want to tell me i'll just have to try at some point. That seems odd. But if your town and your heal only works on one faction it then would be possible scum have stuff that works like that as well. I would heal your top town regardless. if it's me and it works great. I will say I am almost positive I'm taking dmg in fact I guarantee it.
You would additionally have to move a bit tho. Can you be between #12 and #17 tonight?
I'll try to be here at deadline, but it will be tight. maybe the last 30 mins.
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