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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 05 2016 16:20 GMT
#961
Well superbia never came back after I expertly intercepted all the pressure directed at him so that feels bad. lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 16:20 GMT
#962
tl:dr;

Calix has a scum read on Bats.
Calix has a scum read on JAT for association and some minor point which she was told is wrong so it's really association.
Calix is asked what Grack's alignment is and says if Bats is mafia Grack is mafia.

^^^^^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she's never mentioned that before at all and she "town leans" grack which means her bats read is either:

A) faked
B) knows it's a town flip




tl:dr part 2:

Calix admits that she's pushed nu/oats (bad pushes) and followed on the pushes of superbia/bats (also my pushes) yet when I asked her to make a scum list she randomly spouts off extra names of: Koshi/Palmar/HF/Stutters.

Calix gets called out on this bull shit list and she in fact says it's a "if bats doesn't flip mafia" list.

^^^^^ the above is a lapse in logic because she didn't get asked for that, it doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense at all to make a list of "if my two mafia reads are wrong" list when asked for the reasons she is scum reading someone.




tl:dr part 3:

her nu read was complete bull shit at the time, it had no evidence to back it up




conclusion: mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 16:20 GMT
#963
On October 06 2016 01:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:
He clearly decided he would defend calix no matter what before actually reading what has been said about her.

Clearly

Indeed.

You immediately rushed to her defense without understanding the accusation against her as evidenced here:
On October 06 2016 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.

I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip.

Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum?



If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself)

If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town.

I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt.


huh

I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all.

This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him.

Then you try to defend her by arguing her scumread on me doesn't depend on batsnacks which it evidently does.
And when all fails you just claim that you think she can forget her scumreads.
You defended for 2 separate and incorrect reasons before actually understanding the argument and then kept doing it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 16:22 GMT
#964
and my post isn't even basically based on the fact that she scum reads me despite agreeing with every push I have made this entire game and even the one on herself

(it might be slightly based on this)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 16:37 GMT
#965
Marv
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 16:37 GMT
#966
I don't know why you town read marv, I think he's been underwhelming at best and definitely doesn't have much of a total thread awareness.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 16:38 GMT
#967
On October 06 2016 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know why you town read marv, I think he's been underwhelming at best and definitely doesn't have much of a total thread awareness.

He has been underwhelming but I will not have a hand in this lynch and he is the best bet I have since everyone else is even less trustworthy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 16:39 GMT
#968
Whatever I will try to get my thoughts out now. Will take a while.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 16:45 GMT
#969
I don't get it jat you've scum read bats, no vote on him, you've scum read calix and she's done this bs that you're arguing with grack about and you don't vote her, you've just said to lynch grack and aren't voting him.

Why?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 16:50 GMT
#970
On October 06 2016 01:45 Holyflare wrote:
I don't get it jat you've scum read bats, no vote on him, you've scum read calix and she's done this bs that you're arguing with grack about and you don't vote her, you've just said to lynch grack and aren't voting him.

Why?

What does it matter where my vote is? The answer is it doesn't. In 9/10 of my games I cast my deciding votes at deadline. Often I don't vote before that at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 16:54 GMT
#971
because you're not going to be here at deadline.............?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 16:57 GMT
#972
On October 06 2016 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
because you're not going to be here at deadline.............?

I am going to cast my vote before I have to leave. But not before rereading. Don't really see the problem.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 17:00 GMT
#973
On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.

re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point.

That is not the conclusion I was drawing. I do not use preflips d1. I was only questioning your approach on the matter.

You have not pushed me. That shit was based on a pl joke.

I did not like your latest posts (currently at p46 and posting from phone and shittiest Subway wifi NA)
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 17:04 GMT
#974
On October 05 2016 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 23:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I have the same conclusion s as cypherbia on grasp and bats. I think they are town.

I would Lynch jat 10 times before voting bats. Jat s defense on #811 ( can't quote from phone) was him saying that his play this game corresponds to his town meta. This is a prime example of a scum being aware of his town palsy and trying to replicate it.

Also, calix, why Re you using the bats. Jat interaction against bats? Jat defense of bats makes jat and jat only scummy.


No, this is a prime example of someone getting scumread for playing his townmeta.
Your logic doesn't work. "He says he is playing his townmeta so obviously he is just trying to replicate it". Retarded.

If you don't believe me you can easily check if I am telling the truth.

Lmao. You are proving my point. You think simply playing aling your town meta should warrant a town read. That's what scum thinks. Town just plays the way they want, not bring worries of following a certain predefined meta.

Justanotherscum
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 17:05 GMT
#975
Being worried *
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 17:09 GMT
#976
That's not what he's saying at all.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 17:10 GMT
#977
On October 06 2016 00:30 Palmar wrote:
Calix is 100% mafia

Déjà vu...

On October 05 2016 23:49 Calix wrote:
I'm going out in ~30 minutes, going to be out for a few hours and then I'm in for the evening. Generally my schedule is light because I'm at uni but today is busy for me so I might not get back before you leave.

Your schedule is light because you study english

Also stop being bad
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
October 05 2016 17:12 GMT
#978
On October 06 2016 02:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 23:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I have the same conclusion s as cypherbia on grasp and bats. I think they are town.

I would Lynch jat 10 times before voting bats. Jat s defense on #811 ( can't quote from phone) was him saying that his play this game corresponds to his town meta. This is a prime example of a scum being aware of his town palsy and trying to replicate it.

Also, calix, why Re you using the bats. Jat interaction against bats? Jat defense of bats makes jat and jat only scummy.


No, this is a prime example of someone getting scumread for playing his townmeta.
Your logic doesn't work. "He says he is playing his townmeta so obviously he is just trying to replicate it". Retarded.

If you don't believe me you can easily check if I am telling the truth.

Lmao. You are proving my point. You think simply playing aling your town meta should warrant a town read. That's what scum thinks. Town just plays the way they want, not bring worries of following a certain predefined meta.

Justanotherscum

Are you dense?

What I am saying is the following:

Grackaroni is scumreadign me FOR something that is a known staple of my townmeta which makes the read completely nonsensical. The point is not "I am playing my townmeta so I am town" even though that would be entirely correct.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 05 2016 17:12 GMT
#979
On October 06 2016 02:09 Holyflare wrote:
That's not what he's saying at all.

It is exactly what he is saying. I changed the angle of my phone to see his post from a different perspective, and it was still the same message.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 05 2016 17:16 GMT
#980
On October 06 2016 02:10 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 00:30 Palmar wrote:
Calix is 100% mafia

Déjà vu...

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 23:49 Calix wrote:
I'm going out in ~30 minutes, going to be out for a few hours and then I'm in for the evening. Generally my schedule is light because I'm at uni but today is busy for me so I might not get back before you leave.

Your schedule is light because you study english

Also stop being bad


remember who he voted for last time day 1?

that was mafia!
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