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The fact that Palmar is dodging the batsnacks case to make an unsubstantiated vote on me is terrible.
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On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.
re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game.
Thing is I don't care.
Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead.
I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with.
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You're like a mini irate version of me.
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On October 06 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.
re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with.
Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team?
What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything?
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On October 06 2016 00:03 Holyflare wrote:
I still get weird feelings from every batsnacks post which is meh.
Batsnacks come back.
maybe you're in love???
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On October 06 2016 00:09 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote:On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.
re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with. Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team? What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything?
It's not clear to me that were not on the same team
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Team = Mafia team.
I'm assuming you're bringing up the possibility of TvT?
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On October 06 2016 00:09 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote:On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.
re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with. Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team? What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything?
If you make a list of your pushes and two of them are bad and the other two other people have started (myself basically) then the only pushes you have made yourself are crap and the other two are REACTIVE based on the sentiment of the thread.
Basically your posts seem entirely reactive and contain a plethora of things to assuage other people's fears.
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On October 05 2016 20:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 15:55 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 15:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 14:50 Grackaroni wrote:On October 05 2016 14:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is super town lol wtf. Because I think that the cocky useless attitude and annoyance is harder to fake than it seems. Also the times that he has contributed I think he's made good points, i.e. Damdred's confidence on Marv and HF dropping his Calix push. Lol wait wait you really need to expand on this. Cause it's really important I don't think that scum becomes genuinely annoyed at somebody for not answering a question because they don't actually care about the answer. This is something that Superbia has to actively think of to fake. If you're going for the cocky useless scum play, then you are drawing a lot more attention to yourself. It can be harder to pull off than you would think, and it's always a riskier gambit than just contributing more than the shittiest players. Marv isn't going to roll over this game as scum because he hasn't played in months.HF point was something that I noticed as well. sounds logical, but it would be untrue. I would have been crushingly depressed not to have rolled town in my first game in 4 months and been even lazier than usual
When did you become such a baddie?
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On October 06 2016 00:17 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 00:09 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 00:05 Holyflare wrote:On October 06 2016 00:03 Calix wrote:On October 06 2016 00:00 Holyflare wrote:On October 05 2016 23:48 Calix wrote:
NU, you raise a good point about JAT's defense re: meta. However, what makes you conclude that JAT/ Bats isn't scum defending scum? He switches between defending bats and distancing from him and it's a weird approach for scum/ town imo.
re: HF's post, that can be easily disproven by the fact that I have pushed NU, pushed Oats, pushed Superbia (to an extent) and helped start the batsnacks train. Anyone saying that I'm not pushing the game forward is either illiterate or scum at this point. All of those pushes were bad apart from the Superbia and batsnacks one which other people are pushing instead. You're supposed to be town leaders-y and you seem more reactive. Your argument was that I hadn't been really pushing anyone. I refute this point. You change the argument to "Calix's pushes are bad" Your last line is a terrible attempt at a meta-read. There is no One True Way for me to play and you have no idea how I 'usually' play given that you've seen me in ONE game. Thing is I don't care. Maybe my original post should have been "calix has only pushed dumb shit all game and been reactive" instead. Yes, I think I'm ninja editing it to that instead. I don't care if you're the meta God I know your ego type like the back of my hand, you don't like being wrong, you like being right, other people are pretty dumb. I know your pushes look shitty to me and that's what I'm sticking with. Question. How can my all of my pushes look shitty when you're voting for the same person I am? Why are you not trying harder to sort out myself/ batsnacks when we're clearly not on the same team? What does my 'ego type' have to do with anything? If you make a list of your pushes and two of them are bad and the other two other people have started (myself basically) then the only pushes you have made yourself are crap and the other two are REACTIVE based on the sentiment of the thread. Basically your posts seem entirely reactive and contain a plethora of things to assuage other people's fears.
Even if we disregard two pushes of mine which I started, I was the first person to make a case against batsnacks. In literally no universe does your narrative of "Calix is entirely reactive" hold.
You are just making up bullshit at this point. Read the thread and stop talking out of your arse.
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On October 05 2016 20:50 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 20:33 marvellosity wrote:
And jat is frightfully dull. I also have less time than historically (hence first game in 4 months) but at least I say things occasionally interesting while i'm here You are dull. Also I remember you saying the exact same thing the last time I had little time to play. We all know how that ended. Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
also yeah, jat's push on Stutters looks quite bad. What about it looks bad exactly? It was an observation and I did not follow up on it since stutters did not post since then. Hardly a push.
Nobody is accusing you for having little time to play, by the way. There's a reason why you are getting pushed over Koshi.
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I'm going to have to cut you short as I am heading out now. I know it's hard for you, but don't go full retard here, thx.
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On October 05 2016 21:12 Palmar wrote:
Regarding JAT, I don't know what to think about his response to me.
a) he might be (or he might believe that he is) correct that pressuring him to take a stance isn't going to work.
b) he also knows that I believe I can pressure him into submission as town, whether or not that is true seems irrelevant.
c) despite b), it's not certain that he thought about what I believe
So in general, I'm still sort of meh on JAT, he is doing the jat thing where he sort of casually comments along in the thread, and I always think he's mafia for it and sometimes I tunnel it and sometimes I leave it. I have no real idea what he actually is.
On October 05 2016 21:28 Palmar wrote:
I also think Grack might be mafia, he has no agenda that I can tell, he just sort of exists.
I don't think Palmar is reading the thread. He doesn't seem to have any idea that JAT isn't posting in response to himself.
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If Palmar isn't reading the thread that is scum points because his mafia play is exceptionally lazy.
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On October 06 2016 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 20:50 justanothertownie wrote:On October 05 2016 20:33 marvellosity wrote:
And jat is frightfully dull. I also have less time than historically (hence first game in 4 months) but at least I say things occasionally interesting while i'm here You are dull. Also I remember you saying the exact same thing the last time I had little time to play. We all know how that ended. On October 05 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
also yeah, jat's push on Stutters looks quite bad. What about it looks bad exactly? It was an observation and I did not follow up on it since stutters did not post since then. Hardly a push. Nobody is accusing you for having little time to play, by the way. There's a reason why you are getting pushed over Koshi.
Not really. The only one who is pushing me right now is you and I easily refuted your "case".
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On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.
I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip. Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum? If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself) If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town. I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt. huh I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all.
This actually makes some sense. If Batsnacks is scum it looks like I am trying to drive a wagon away from Batsnacks without defending him.
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Don't let baddies lynch Calix please.
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