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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:15 GMT
#601
but does it make him mafia though? if it does not then I suggest you leave your personal problems aside and get back to not creating more useless posts that I don't have to read
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:18 GMT
#602
On September 10 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:
Fuba is too self aware at being crappy for me to call him mafia.


^ this is still where I stand at fuba, if he doesn't start to contribute more in the allotted timeframe that he has given himself then I will be after him or you will be or whatever

today is TT or Grackalackin depending on what TT says which I wager will be 0-5 posts complaining about me and saying something is crap and not much game playing
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 09 2016 20:21 GMT
#603
On September 10 2016 05:10 Calix wrote:
1. I'm not 'backing off my read' you moron. If someone does X thing every game, it means it's NAI. Nowhere did I say or imply that I was reconsidering my fuba scum-read because I'm not.

2. Point.

3. No it isn't. See below.


The timing of your Vivax read switch is odd. Stop defending yourself on things I'm not even calling you out for, priss.

4. Because scum-reading TT and fuba doesn't make sense as I don't think both of them are on a scum team. Therefore one of them has to be town. But I don't actually have anything from TT's posts to town-read him. This isn't hard to comprehend.

Yes, and I understand this... but it doesn't answer the question: Why did you choose this wording?

5. So you admit that you're specifically targeting me more than you would anyone else...because of one game where you deliberately chose not to read any of my posts and ended up losing the game for town. Holy shit.

I've been targeting 5 other players as well, so, no, I am not 'specifically' targeting you. If you didn't act scummy, I wouldn't be arguing with you.

The fact that you feel entitled to do that just because of a fuck-up that YOU made in another game is unbelievable.


c:
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 09 2016 20:22 GMT
#604
So, hi. I have destroyed my phone by accidentally flushing it down the toilet.

So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 09 2016 20:22 GMT
#605
On September 10 2016 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:
Fuba is too self aware at being crappy for me to call him mafia.


^ this is still where I stand at fuba, if he doesn't start to contribute more in the allotted timeframe that he has given himself then I will be after him or you will be or whatever

today is TT or Grackalackin depending on what TT says which I wager will be 0-5 posts complaining about me and saying something is crap and not much game playing


Just to clarify, are you claiming that self-awareness in general is a town tell or that fuba's meta is to be self-aware as town or something else?

If it's the first point, why do you consider it a town trait?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#606
it gave me tingly feelings in good areas
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
September 09 2016 20:24 GMT
#607
I want you guys to isolate ticktock and grack in a bubble and sheep me directly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 09 2016 21:08 GMT
#608
On September 10 2016 04:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.


I don't see anything wrong about this? Isn't she allowed to have a few reads that are the same as yours? Or to change her mind?

Doesn't really seem like a reason to be suspicious of anything to me. I'm glad somebody else sees that fuba is playing very timidly to say the least. On top of it he attacked you with superbia for calling TW lynch bait, but not HF. Seems especially strange cause you were more vocal about the opinion on TW.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 09 2016 21:09 GMT
#609
For HF:

On September 10 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:
A simple summary/caselet of scummy shit superbia did:

- Spammed the early game up with the stream thingy cause it tends to get people townread, got sloppy about it for the sake of spamming and made the mistake about the roles.

- While having a circle of suspects of TW/TT/Grack, the best question that comes to his mind for Calix is about NeverU, literally the guy calix talked about the most so far. Any other question could have been more productive. Calix opinion on NeverU was already fairly obvious from earlier convos.

- That question wasn't related to superbias current circle of suspects -> ergo it was just a question to appear active, get people to talk about what they want to talk. And on top of it, it was a question easy for Calix to answer given that her opinion on NU is probably the most fleshed out in the game.

- One point that isn't as important to me, but still relevant: The fact he had the same early scumreads as HF but somehow didn't relate to what HF wrote about them, or talked about HFs posts on them. This usually wouldn't be a problem if superbia actually brought up points of his own that seemed better to him than HFs points, but since I don't really see anything explaining why TT is mafia, this isn't the case.

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 22:03 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2016 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
How are both those people related?

(shit did someone say something earlier and now my thread reading is a lie?)


They're both in this game. I have been inclined to group them together though I believe this has been covered by Calix before. TW's read on TT seemed non-existent and kind of forced. Plus he was willing to ignore your push on him because of 'paranoia'. Felt awkward. Like "look at how townie-paranoid I am" while not committing to anything.


This is the reason superbia believes them to be suspect. It looks entirely based on TWs read on TT. You tell me if that's a good reason.

fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:12 GMT
#610
On September 10 2016 03:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 02:53 fuba wrote:
I'd thought that "lynchbait" is when a player is prone to attracting votes as town, which would indicate a TW town read from NU, given that he doesn't have any knowledge of TW's meta. And I was well aware that this is contrary to his general thoughts on TW at that point in the game. That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip.

Actually, mentioning that he's lynchbait is counterproductive to getting TW lynched, so why even mention it? Gonna need to think about this more after work - need my computer in front of me XD


Odd that you change your stance on this point after Vivax and I called you out for it.

Calling him bad =/= town-reading him.

What does my knowledge of TW's meta have to do with any of this?

"That's why I wouldn't really revisit it unless TW flips town (if/when that happens). I.E. if TW flips town, this could have been a slip."
So you know he is going to flip town with the addition of the 'when'. I do not see why else you found the need to add this word after 'if' which is a conditional, meaning you know he's town. Scumslip.
You're also trying to tie up TW's flip to me which is scummy as fuck. IE - X flipped town and was pushed by Y, therefore Y is scum. You are already setting up a mislynch on me knowing that TW will flip town.

What makes you say that I wanted him lynched? Scum-read =/= desire to lynch

Fuba is scum.

This is the single most nonsensical response to any post I have ever written. Excited to get home and absolutely tear it to tiny bits of terrible case.
@theRealMkfuba07
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 09 2016 21:12 GMT
#611
On September 10 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote:
So, hi. I have destroyed my phone by accidentally flushing it down the toilet.

So going to,be kinda not here as much until I get a new one. Will attempt to,catch up and make hf sheep me or sheep hf. Or lynch hf. Also three options possible (love you buddy)


lol congratulations.

Why so fixated on HF? Lynching him D1 is courageous to say the least, and sheeping him as well.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 09 2016 21:21 GMT
#612
Day 1 Votecount

Tictock (2): Holyflare, fuba, Calix
fuba (2): NeverUnlucky, Calix
Tumblewood (1): Superbia, Superbia
Calix (0): NeverUnlucky
Superbia (0): Superbia
Skynx (0): NeverUnlucky

Not Voting (8): Skynx, Damdred, Palmar, Grackaroni, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog, Tictock


Day 1 ends Saturday, Sep 10 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 09 2016 21:22 GMT
#613
right now I have a town circle (ignoring their reads on me) of:
calix
skynx
vivax
shape?
nu?

names ending in x are good. I will filter tt and palmar and those other punks instead of reading the thread so I can catch up faster.
good times for all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 09 2016 21:22 GMT
#614
On September 10 2016 04:22 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing

What do you mean? His entire filter has like no content at all he has been around, had time to react on stuff.

You saying we should just ignore all that and tr him cuz it fits his meta?


This man speaks the truth. A wagon on Palmar is something we need at some point if we want him to do anything at all. Preferably today, or monday. He won't do stuff until he's in danger of being lynched. If he keeps posting like this I won't be able to make a call on his alignment, cause right now he certainly didn't post enough.

On September 10 2016 04:20 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 00:58 Superbia wrote:
On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything


Cool talk about mafia pls.

idk who that is. I think hf's points on tt are mostly blown out of proportion if that's what you mean. posts are created faster than I can read and post about them all so until 2:15ish (pst) I can't really do that
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything


This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read.

How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence?

There are two methods to find the scum:
1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE.
2. Find the scumminess in players' posts.

We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI.

How about...
... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz.

ok only seven games means you can probably be read by the tells I use for newbies, which leads me to call you town
will be back soon (TM)


Agree with the bolded. TTs opener was shitty, but I don't see how the rest of his filter is forced. He certainly doesn't deserve a townread, but neither a scumread as of yet. He should definitely post more. I found TT to be an easy-ish townread once he started getting involved.

For HF it doesn't mean much cause he opens aggressively in every game.

If anyone ate that bait it was probably superbia, but his opinion on TT wasn't fleshed out in my memory. I got the feeling he was just comfy with HFs opinion, in a world where HF is town. Then proceeded to scumread TW by association (something about TWs read on TT not being townish iirc).

The overall feeling was that he just inserted himself along with HF somewhat pretending he doesn't exist.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 09 2016 21:22 GMT
#615
oh yeah and add fuba to that circle. both of you site newbies should stop voting him because he is probably town
good times for all
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
September 09 2016 21:26 GMT
#616
On September 10 2016 06:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 04:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.


I don't see anything wrong about this? Isn't she allowed to have a few reads that are the same as yours? Or to change her mind?

Doesn't really seem like a reason to be suspicious of anything to me. I'm glad somebody else sees that fuba is playing very timidly to say the least. On top of it he attacked you with superbia for calling TW lynch bait, but not HF. Seems especially strange cause you were more vocal about the opinion on TW.

HF has the right to call TW lynchbait based off of meta. NU has to call him lynchbait based on his knowledge from this game. Which means he thinks or knows that TW is town. If that is not the case, then he should just think he is scum. Calling him lynchbait is at the least inconsistent with his scumread of TW. At worst it is a slip. And his intentional misinterpretation of the post he quoted is making me think slip.

How is this not obvious?
@theRealMkfuba07
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 09 2016 21:29 GMT
#617
On September 10 2016 06:22 Tumblewood wrote:
oh yeah and add fuba to that circle. both of you site newbies should stop voting him because he is probably town


Start explaining why then, put it in relation to the points I brought up. Other than fuba is cool and a joke about him being scum there is no info about it your filter.

And what's that lazy TL meta nonsense I just spotted? Lies and slander.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
September 09 2016 21:33 GMT
#618
On September 10 2016 06:26 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 06:08 Vivax wrote:
On September 10 2016 04:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:

Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.


I don't see anything wrong about this? Isn't she allowed to have a few reads that are the same as yours? Or to change her mind?

Doesn't really seem like a reason to be suspicious of anything to me. I'm glad somebody else sees that fuba is playing very timidly to say the least. On top of it he attacked you with superbia for calling TW lynch bait, but not HF. Seems especially strange cause you were more vocal about the opinion on TW.

HF has the right to call TW lynchbait based off of meta. NU has to call him lynchbait based on his knowledge from this game. Which means he thinks or knows that TW is town. If that is not the case, then he should just think he is scum. Calling him lynchbait is at the least inconsistent with his scumread of TW. At worst it is a slip. And his intentional misinterpretation of the post he quoted is making me think slip.

How is this not obvious?


FYI Tumble is not lynch bait. When he started playing around here he was perfectly capable of concise , informative posts with lists and reasoning and stuff, and he was jailkeeper a while back and got NKd N1. Not lynched.

Not sure why he's started to go into wobbly land with his posting, but when he posts differently than in those games it's never a bad call to lynch him.

And what does this have to do with you bitching about NU for using that term but not finding it suspicious in the slightest in HF? Is there any particular wording I missed that NU used that makes it more worth noticing?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 09 2016 21:33 GMT
#619
Hf is probably the biggest voice/push in general that people generally sheep. Its preferable I get him sorted early and see if I agree with him vivax. Do you not agree?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 09 2016 21:34 GMT
#620
damdred is disappointing enough that I think he is scum. yea, phone stuff, but ehhh for now damdred is scum
good times for all
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