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On September 10 2016 03:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 03:39 Skynx wrote:On September 10 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 03:15 Skynx wrote:
3 ppl spend 3 pages discussing simplest mechanics literally.
You get lynched, you can cop check for that night. Once per game only one of those who get lynched can vigi shot instead of a check.
You get nk'd, you can protect someone following night.
Anyway don't want to stir up mechanics discussion again but might aswell put my stance on it.
I mean write whatever you want on your message, it can get manipulated so doesn't really matter what you put in it. However dead can decide on their collective vote accordingly to the message, if it is unchanged then their vote will be manipulated that they know for sure. If it is changed then you know your vote is safe. All of this is obvious and has already been said. Looks like a filler/fluff post. I'm so close to ignoring you forever. Shall i just lend you my password and let you play from my account? Anything I write seems to be inadequate for your whatever righteousness-o-meter. I let you know how I'm playing, I read through and comment on what I like and you keep saying "that's been mentioned", "fluff/filler post" whatever. As i said those 3 literally spent 3 pages filling their filter with stuff about mechanics and you call this one post useless. See, this was a good point.
Yeah i know its good, stop stating the obvious 
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Shape is being shape and posting walls of comments on stuff. You have any reads bro, particularly on fuba and hf? Bonus points for relating gif.
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Also NU, you're lucky Chezinu or Moosy are not in the game you would be on suicide watch otherwise.
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On September 10 2016 04:06 Skynx wrote:
Also NU, you're lucky Chezinu or Moosy are not in the game you would be on suicide watch otherwise.
Lol, tell me about it.
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hey vivax link me that post about the shorter version then i'm supremely lazy
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I'll throw Super in the town pile for reactionary posts around 20-22.
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All meanwhile Palmar has been super underwhelming.
Evidence: his filter.
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yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing
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On September 10 2016 00:58 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything Cool talk about mafia pls.
idk who that is. I think hf's points on tt are mostly blown out of proportion if that's what you mean. posts are created faster than I can read and post about them all so until 2:15ish (pst) I can't really do thatOn September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read. How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence? There are two methods to find the scum: 1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE. 2. Find the scumminess in players' posts. We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI. How about... ... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz.
ok only seven games means you can probably be read by the tells I use for newbies, which leads me to call you town
will be back soon (TM)
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On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing
What do you mean? His entire filter has like no content at all he has been around, had time to react on stuff.
You saying we should just ignore all that and tr him cuz it fits his meta?
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On September 10 2016 04:20 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:58 Superbia wrote:On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything Cool talk about mafia pls. idk who that is. I think hf's points on tt are mostly blown out of proportion if that's what you mean. posts are created faster than I can read and post about them all so until 2:15ish (pst) I can't really do that Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 00:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 10 2016 00:54 Tumblewood wrote:
actually I am too waffly on NU to call him fully town just yet. he is too experienced and too wtf for me to make a newbie call. but I think he is town, even though he does stupid shit like have 5 scumreads or argue about how I need to explain everything This is my 7th FM game. I'm not too experienced for anyone to read. How the fuck do you call me too experienced and newbie in the same sentence? There are two methods to find the scum: 1. Go for town-reads and find scum by PoE. 2. Find the scumminess in players' posts. We all use both manners, but we tend to favor one over the other. For instance, Damdred only has town-reads so far, so he has a preference for 1., while I have 5 scum-reads, so I like 2. better. Having 5 scum-reads is neither stupid nor AI. How about... ... you actually explain 'everything'? I won't ask you to explain anything if you do explain them, zzz. ok only seven games means you can probably be read by the tells I use for newbies, which leads me to call you town will be back soon (TM)
wut
You have some sort of chart with scumtells and amount of games played?
Why do you even read newbies differently? It makes no sense.
If Moosy and Cheruzin are like him, yes, I would be on the suicide watch.
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On September 10 2016 04:22 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing What do you mean? His entire filter has like no content at all he has been around, had time to react on stuff. You saying we should just ignore all that and tr him cuz it fits his meta?
On September 10 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
yes just like a town palmar is possible of doing
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So NU's sensationalist post about fuba was enough for me to look through two filters. This level of productivity will not stand.
I'm back to thinking Vivax could be town again. I should probably take notes so that I stop freaking out every time Vivax does something possibly vaguely scummy but nah.
And now that I'm not so skeptical of Vivax's intentions, I'm actually starting to see the case against fuba. He rarely gives his own views, preferring to use other people to push them forward (lots of "I agree with this" or "this" kind of posts) which not only shows that he lacks initiative but it's a way of evading accountability for pushing certain positions. If a position backfires, it puts him in a place to attack the person who initially proposed the idea.
He is self-centred (saying things like "I disagree with this being scummy because it can apply to me") which is self-serving because it shows that he is paying attention to how his actions could be perceived by others and that he's trying to not associate the things he does with scum.
There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game.
On September 09 2016 11:46 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 11:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 09 2016 11:33 fuba wrote:On September 09 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
fuba also seems pretty cool While I appreciate it, it always makes me uncomfortable when people town read me, especially D1 XD C) Why did you specify "especially D1"? C) I have no idea what to do D1. It tends to get me in hot water early. Really, I'm not all that great until a few days have passed. Great at hyper-analyzing everything everyone's said at a later date, though.
Also I was going to quote the posts where he says "oh I disagree because I do X thing" but my internet decided to turn into a snail halfway through with quoting so post numbers are 242, 245, 246 (pg 13?)
Anyway this is enough for me to move away from TT at the very least. Even though I can't say I town-read TT, fuba's filter is more problematic. He had no problems voting for him (as Vivax noted earlier) and bandwagoning a scum mate on Day 1 seems like a dumb strategy for scum to take, so I doubt TT/ fuba are a scum duo.
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Let me ask you Calix, what if he does the same in every game? Does the post become not scummy and not:
There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game.
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What was sensationalist about meh post?
Which filters did you look into? Vivax and Fuba?
Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.
Why do you say "I can't say I town-read TT" rather than saying you sr/nr him? The wording is bizarre to say the least...
Back to null-reading Calix.
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On September 10 2016 04:36 Holyflare wrote:Let me ask you Calix, what if he does the same in every game? Does the post become not scummy and not: Show nested quote +There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game.
If you're claiming that he says that every game then it becomes NAI for him.
On September 10 2016 04:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
What was sensationalist about meh post?
Which filters did you look into? Vivax and Fuba?
Why do you now think Vivax may be town? It looks self-serving that you state that you now town-read Vivax and scum-read Fuba in the same post. Especially since you are following my vote and these two reads are ones I share.
Why do you say "I can't say I town-read TT" rather than saying you sr/nr him? The wording is bizarre to say the least...
Back to null-reading Calix.
1. You really have to ask? You claimed that fuba 'scum slipped' and used the fail logic of 'conditionals are really scummy guise' (which you already know I disagree with)
2. Vivax and Fuba, yeah.
3. Because I reread his posts and realised that the things I was individually suspecting him for didn't hold up when looking at the bigger picture of how he was playing.
4. Because I can't say I town-read TT? Duh. Someone else being scummy doesn't invalidate the original reason that I scum-read TT. (which still hasn't been addressed iirc) What are you even expecting to get out of asking that?
5. Good. I'd rather you fuck off.
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On September 10 2016 04:50 Calix wrote:
If you're claiming that he says that every game then it becomes NAI for him.
Backing off from your read.
1. You really have to ask? You claimed that fuba 'scum slipped' and used the fail logic of 'conditionals are really scummy guise' (which you already know I disagree with)
Uh, I said that the addition of 'when' to a conditional was scummy. Conditionals themselves are not. By adding 'when', he implied that he knew that TW was going to flip town. That's the slip.
2. Vivax and Fuba, yeah.
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3. Because I reread his posts and realised that the things I was individually suspecting him for didn't hold up when looking at the bigger picture of how he was playing.
You have to admit that the timing is odd.
4. Because I can't say I town-read TT? Duh. Someone else being scummy doesn't invalidate the original reason that I scum-read TT. (which still hasn't been addressed iirc) What are you even expecting to get out of asking that?
Why not just say you sr TT? It looks like there's a barrier between what you say and what you think, alike scums.
5. Good. I'd rather you fuck off.
You knew exactly what you were getting into by /signing into this game. Of course I was going to annoy you, I am not ever giving you another free pass. I'm not fucking off, deal with it.
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On September 10 2016 05:03 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 04:50 Calix wrote:
If you're claiming that he says that every game then it becomes NAI for him. Backing off from your read. Show nested quote +1. You really have to ask? You claimed that fuba 'scum slipped' and used the fail logic of 'conditionals are really scummy guise' (which you already know I disagree with) Uh, I said that the addition of 'when' to a conditional was scummy. Conditionals themselves are not. By adding 'when', he implied that he knew that TW was going to flip town. That's the slip. x Show nested quote +3. Because I reread his posts and realised that the things I was individually suspecting him for didn't hold up when looking at the bigger picture of how he was playing. You have to admit that the timing is odd. Show nested quote +4. Because I can't say I town-read TT? Duh. Someone else being scummy doesn't invalidate the original reason that I scum-read TT. (which still hasn't been addressed iirc) What are you even expecting to get out of asking that? Why not just say you sr TT? It looks like there's a barrier between what you say and what you think, alike scums. You knew exactly what you were getting into by /signing into this game. Of course I was going to annoy you, I am not ever giving you another free pass. I'm not fucking off, deal with it.
1. I'm not 'backing off my read' you moron. If someone does X thing every game, it means it's NAI. Nowhere did I say or imply that I was reconsidering my fuba scum-read because I'm not.
2. Point.
3. No it isn't. See below.
4. Because scum-reading TT and fuba doesn't make sense as I don't think both of them are on a scum team. Therefore one of them has to be town. But I don't actually have anything from TT's posts to town-read him. This isn't hard to comprehend.
5. So you admit that you're specifically targeting me more than you would anyone else...because of one game where you deliberately chose not to read any of my posts and ended up losing the game for town. Holy shit.
The fact that you feel entitled to do that just because of a fuck-up that YOU made in another game is unbelievable.
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