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Anyway, as it stands I'd be all for a d1 Xata lynch. Pretty sure he's fooled me like the last 3 times he's been mafia and that's no good. | ||
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On September 24 2016 07:51 Xatalos wrote: Have I really been scum in 3 games with you? :D It feels like ages when I last could play scum. I have no idea. Its probably been at least a year, but that seems right. Seems like as solid a plan as any for d1. You down? | ||
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On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote: Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/ To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him. On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once. | ||
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On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote: I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early. This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata. | ||
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On September 24 2016 08:28 Calix wrote: You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test? My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play. | ||
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On September 24 2016 08:39 Jealous wrote: Confused as to why you would intentionally create such a scenario in the first place if you acknowledge less than 5 minutes later that it was a terrible choice. It's not like you got any smarter in between then and now. I'm older and thus wiser. The findings are TBD btw. Rest assured, I have top men on it. If you had to guess, why do you think I did it? | ||
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On September 24 2016 09:06 DanelerH wrote: Not always. If it's at the beginning of the game, I have no reason to trust the claim. If it's later in the game, then I'll continue looking into other people, but keep a watch on the TPR claim (especially if there's a counter-claim, in which case one of them has to be Mafia). Sup what do you think of what I've done so far? | ||
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Hi town. How many games have you played in and any mafia¿ | ||
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On September 24 2016 09:43 DoYouHas wrote: Nevermind, I can just look it up myself. Calix and Xata read pretty townie to me. Don't know about you other 3 yet. If you want to, go ahead, but my style is highly dependent on my activity level. I'm very self-aware of my meta as well, which doesnt help. Town: more impulsive Very likely to tunnel, especially on someone who attacks me early Will defer to someone whose reads I respect(even if I don't think they're better than mine) when I don't know or know my lynch target won't happen. Lately I've been very stream of conscious oriented with my posting until I get pushed for the lack of quoted cases, then I dump everything I've been thinking. Everyone realizes I was town and I get killed a night or two later. As scum I try to emulate these things, but suck at pushing people except teammates. Haven't really played scum enough to see what other people catch me from. | ||
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Too early to have much better, but I would like to talk to Jealous and DH some more. | ||
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On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote: Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^ Also hi there. I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you. I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night. Emphasis mine. I'd lynch for this | ||
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I'll give you a hint, go read SEQs filter (9 posts). The one I quoted shows a clear lack of reading, even incredibly early in the game. I'm working another 2 hours, but if anyone has any questions fire away. No comment on the blue stuff, scum can try to figure it out on their own. | ||
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On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote: I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ. I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond. Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also. | ||
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On September 25 2016 11:02 DoYouHas wrote: SEQ does not bother me much at all. He reads like he jumped in with both feet and started rooting around. The line you bolded would be weak reasoning if he had actually gone after Xata or spread suspicion on him, but I don't think he did. He moves on pretty quickly and after talking about mafia in a pretty general sense (not unusual for someone new to forum mafia, especially with Jealous getting into it too) he seems to be scumhunting. You have picked a pretty early statement from him that does not, to me, hold the significance you are assigning it. All of his statements are from around that time. Not to mention the apologetic/cautious nature. Just kind of screams first time scum to me. | ||
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On September 25 2016 12:47 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote: shush you, you are just being pissy that I left my vote on you yesterday. Nah, I think we're cool now. Can't tell for sure until I get home and actually have a pc, but your last posts make me feel better. | ||
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I've got you fam. | ||
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On September 26 2016 01:36 Calix wrote: This thread makes a snail look like it's moving faster than a sports car. At this rate I might actually be productive or some shit. Got around to reading Stutters' ISO and I don't understand #236 whatsoever. Stutters says that he would lynch SEQ for this one line alone and later asks why people haven't picked up on it...but I don't get what he means or why it's enough of a scum tell that no follow-up is needed. Stutters also did not vote in light of this supposed 'scum tell' and while he's been asking for SEQ opinions, he hasn't explained himself on this point. For context, it's SEQ commenting on Xatalos saying: 'Interesting idea. What does this achieve? Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^' Don't get me wrong, that's not a great line because it's commenting on a mechanic that's not in the game (self-votes) in some detail. My interpretation is that Stutters is saying that SEQ hadn't read the setup but I don't see how that's AI, let alone lynch-worthy, and if that's not what Stutters meant then I'm lost. I don't understand nor do I relate to what Stutters has done this game so far tbh. It's not a great line because SEQ clearly hadn't been following the thread or would have caught that Xata and I were clearly joking. It came as just looking to post for the sake of being active. | ||
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On September 26 2016 04:03 Superbia wrote: We played 1 or more games together? What was the game? If memory serves, you vigged me in a student game when I was scum. I'm sure we've done more, but no clue which games. | ||
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On September 26 2016 04:20 Superbia wrote: I'm going to take a quick shower and then put down my vote on Luna or Scott. What stands out about Scott to you outside of the relative inactivity? I got pretty town vibes from his SEQ post. | ||
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Vote: Luna | ||
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1) I'm town 2) if I was scum and Luna said that, I would have slapped some rockets on and bussed him straight to the moon. 3) I don't get mislynched unless I'm straight afk essentially. | ||
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I have 100% confidence I won't be lynched. | ||
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On September 27 2016 00:07 ptmc wrote: So you're not really worried about a night kill taking all your valuable insight to the grave? All the people i know seem sadder while playing overwatch, but maybe you are an exception  That's a negative Ghost Rider. I meant EoN, not EoD. | ||
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On September 27 2016 03:11 Skynx wrote: Both Scott and Jeal look alright to me why ppl wanna lynch them? One of the bussers is prolly one of the highly townread pace controllers aka Xata/Rels/Calix. I might have some time in evening. I'm almost positive Calix isn't scum. After the early responses and just solid logic/play, I can't see it. Easily my strongest town read. Unless the plan was to bus from the start, it's also very unlikely Rels is scum since he could have just ignored Luna's read on me. Xata I'm not as confident on but I've got a town feeling about him. Admittedly, I haven't finished my reread (stopped at pg 20) but even what I remember from after that point seemed pretty solid. Jealous is about the same as Xata for me right now. Scott DYH DanelerH ptmc likely has a scum among them, which I need to look into more. Early inclination is Scott/Dan especially. | ||
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On September 29 2016 15:05 ptmc wrote: So stutters is modkilled at EON? Sorry guys. I got really busy. Just a warning this time. Won't be modkilled. | ||
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On October 01 2016 03:03 Xatalos wrote: Gotta admit that his play has been subpar at best... It's subpar as either alignment though, not merely subpar as town. Outside of that scum game Scott linked, my scum record is pretty dope. I'd like to hear your other point on me however. Honestly, if I was looking at me from the outside, I'd want me dead as well. | ||
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On October 01 2016 03:27 Tictock wrote: Somebody kick my ass if I don't get around to doing real filter reads of Jealous and Xat sometime in the next 24 hours. Thankfully I'm quite certain Calix is town so that is one large filter I don't need to review. How do you feel about scott? | ||
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K. I haven't fully re-read your filter yet, but what are your thoughts on Scott? | ||
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On October 01 2016 04:09 Xatalos wrote: Hanging around the spot of most likely scum with Skynx. Cool. Unrelated, but have you done giant list posts on possible scum teams in other games? | ||
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On October 01 2016 04:32 Xatalos wrote: Sadly, the main result of that analysis was that DYH didn't really fit into many scumteams (except maybe with scott), and that's already irrelevant now. Its cool. That post just bothered me a bit but with how much you post it wasn't worth reading old games. | ||
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On October 01 2016 04:59 Calix wrote: What's the case on Scott again? I know he had some dubious associations with Lunatic but I don't remember anything else that he's done. I'm not sure why people are suddenly getting cold feet around Stutters when he hasn't done anything but inquire about Scott. I'm an enigma? I'll type something up on Scott if you like, but the tl;dr for me is very cautious play and his contributions have been anything but definite. I need to double check his meta to make sure I remember right, but he feels off. It got brought up again because his terrible post about me. | ||
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It just felt out of place when I was reading it. Like not something I'd picture you doing as town but I couldn't pin it as scum you either. It's inconsequential anyway. | ||
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Anyway, once I flip town: Lynch Scott. Last scum is hiding somewhere between Skynx, ptmc, TT and jealous. I'll try to read them before I get lynched. Don't lynch Xata tomorrow. ##vote: scott31337 | ||
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Anyway, once you guys see I'm town, go back and look at people's reads over me. Do they flow logically from a town perspective? Anyway Dan's case on me is terrible. Luna probably picked me because it's a simple meta read to see I'm town and I'm a decent person too buddy up to because my reads are ass but I go hard when I think I've caught scum. Outside of that, he hasn't done much of anything. Definitely deserves a closer look. | ||
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On October 02 2016 04:53 Calix wrote: Stutters, what do you make of Daneler's push on Lunatic? I thought the initial case was crap, his follow-up was decent and then he kind of dropped off after that. In fact, how much have you read up on anyway? I've read everything, just haven't posted a lot. He jumped on the already forming wagon from Rels and Calix. Outside of his terrible associative case on me, he hasn't really done anything. I'd almost rather him over Scott after rereading but living is kind of key so I'll take what I can get. | ||
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On October 02 2016 04:58 Xatalos wrote: Please start shooting townie rainbows all over me to A) prevent me from having to do something possibly stupid if you're town and especially to B) make sure you're actually town and I'm not doing something truly terrible. If you can do that, that would be the absolute best scenario. Just don't lol. It's ok if I die. | ||
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I don't like how Skynx fell off, but felt decent about them early game. I really liked Jealous early game. I was blatantly trolling but his responses were good. It felt fluid and natural. TT's posting since his Scott case worries me, but he's probably town. I don't like that he wants to push off lynching Scott for the reasons he listed, but just be on the lookout if it gets close to endgame. Scott/Dan>TT/Skynx> Jealous>ptmc imo | ||
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I barely played and people here don't take stock in meta reads. It wouldn't do much good I'd wager. | ||
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On October 02 2016 05:13 Tictock wrote: I'm sorry Xat, I just don't believe it's a coincidence Stutters shows up acting like he's got reads almost as soon as his counter wagon looses about the only steam it had going for it. Everything he's said is just pulling shit off the top of his head. To answer that question, scum!Stutters would do anything he has to to stay alive right now. I mean I think the post he made right before that said he had to vote Scott kus surviving was pretty important. scum!Stutters would have never let it get to this point lol. This type of town is the easiest to coast through unnoticed because of the activity level. | ||
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On October 02 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote: ANY WHY THE FUCK DO YOU SEEM TO KNOW WHAT XATA IS TALKING ABOUT!!! + Show Spoiler + This is rhetorical if you don't get that Because with how half this game is about meta, here's what would happen: Xata drops an incredibly solid meta case on me showing I'm town. A) I still get lynched, Xata gets pushed for TMI. B) I don't get lynched and Xata still looks bad for defending me even though if this wasn't a student game I'd be tr'd by most people. | ||
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On September 26 2016 23:53 Stutters695 wrote: 1) I'm town 2) if I was scum and Luna said that, I would have slapped some rockets on and bussed him straight to the moon. 3) I don't get mislynched unless I'm straight afk essentially. Just saying | ||
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On October 02 2016 05:33 Calix wrote: I don't follow your town-read on Xatalos. Care to explain there? I'm not going to quote everything because 12pg filterand I'm dead anyway but: 12pg filter His initial reactions at the start to me were incredibly town Outside of his scunteam speculation post, I've been able to follow his reasoning throughout the game. Pick a random page and I'd bet it stands out as town. | ||
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On October 02 2016 05:44 Calix wrote: The bulk of your defense is self-meta which is flawed because you are aware of said meta. Activity is not alignment-indicative. Why would you being dead mean you put less effort in? If I was in your shoes then I would imagine that I'd be putting in more effort because I wouldn't ever have to after today. Because there isn't enough time. My argument is, I'm not this bad, just inactive. Obviously it's not a great point, but what can you do. | ||
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