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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2016 22:43 GMT
#10
Can coach either alignment or /in if you need.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 00:39 GMT
#157
Sorry guys, I hadn't checked TL for a couple days since I didn't realize the sign-up was so close to completion.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 17:04 GMT
#174
Yeah, /confirm if you still need me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 22:46 GMT
#194
I'm here and not scum. How disappointing.

Anyway, as it stands I'd be all for a d1 Xata lynch. Pretty sure he's fooled me like the last 3 times he's been mafia and that's no good.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 23:00 GMT
#198
On September 24 2016 07:51 Xatalos wrote:
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On September 24 2016 07:46 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm here and not scum. How disappointing.

Anyway, as it stands I'd be all for a d1 Xata lynch. Pretty sure he's fooled me like the last 3 times he's been mafia and that's no good.



Have I really been scum in 3 games with you? :D It feels like ages when I last could play scum.

I have no idea. Its probably been at least a year, but that seems right. Seems like as solid a plan as any for d1. You down?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 23:19 GMT
#202
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/


To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him.

On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 23:26 GMT
#205
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:
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On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/


To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him.

On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once.

I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early.

This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 23:36 GMT
#211
On September 24 2016 08:28 Calix wrote:
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On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/


To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him.

On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once.

I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early.

This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.


You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test?

My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 23 2016 23:52 GMT
#216
On September 24 2016 08:39 Jealous wrote:
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On September 24 2016 08:36 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:28 Calix wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:26 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:21 Jealous wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:19 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/


To everyone else, this is why we should lynch him today. He's always one step ahead, we'll never catch him.

On a more serious note, how does everyone feel about going with the scummiest of the inevitable inactives? Activity always seems to be a struggle in these games and I won't be lynchbait for once.

I'm usually pro-PL but it's too early to make such a decision. We need to see how others are posting. It's odd that you suggest this so early.

This is how I get reactions (or saying something controversial then lurking and waiting for reactions, but you don't want that). Obviously I don't want to lynch a lurker though because I want to lynch Xata.


You only got two responses before claiming it was a reaction-test?

My dear Watson, the game is afoot. That does seem kind of counterproductive in retrospect. I think this is the part though where you guys debate if I'm terrible, trying to come off as terrible while scum or part of some master play.

Confused as to why you would intentionally create such a scenario in the first place if you acknowledge less than 5 minutes later that it was a terrible choice. It's not like you got any smarter in between then and now.


I'm older and thus wiser.

The findings are TBD btw. Rest assured, I have top men on it.


If you had to guess, why do you think I did it?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 00:14 GMT
#220
On September 24 2016 09:06 DanelerH wrote:
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On September 24 2016 09:02 Calix wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:56 DanelerH wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:50 Calix wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:47 DanelerH wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:39 Calix wrote:
I daresay that cutting short a potential avenue for conversation is counterproductive to your stated aim of getting reactions. Did you get anything from Jealous and I?

@Daneler, were you going anywhere with your entrance post? All you did was agree with Jealous and point out that Stutters' entrance is odd.


I use "odd" and "strange" for I find something that might warrant suspicion, so that's what I was going with. Admittedly, not a strong lead, but I was hoping it would go somewhere.


The best person to make things 'go somewhere' is yourself, dear. Expecting others to do the work is never going to work out and only demonstrates a lack of initiative.

Since you proposed this line of thought, why do you think scum would open a post by claiming "non-scum" over say, "town" or not claiming at all or what have you?


I see no reason for Town to claim anything. They only care about getting the Mafia lynched. Mafia, however, wants Town to think they're also Town. By saying "I'm not Mafia" or "I'm Town", they can attempt to establish it early on, which is why I find it to be something that warrants suspicion.


That's something you're characterising as not-town to do, not mafia.

Question. Does your logic also apply to claiming a TPR? (so if a person claimed TPR, would you suspect them because you see no reason for town to claim and if not, why? Just curious because it sounds like that is what you are implying here)

Otherwise I like how this answer was set out. Simple and direct.


Not always. If it's at the beginning of the game, I have no reason to trust the claim. If it's later in the game, then I'll continue looking into other people, but keep a watch on the TPR claim (especially if there's a counter-claim, in which case one of them has to be Mafia).


Sup what do you think of what I've done so far?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 00:29 GMT
#222
On September 24 2016 09:20 DoYouHas wrote:
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On September 24 2016 08:56 DanelerH wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:50 Calix wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:47 DanelerH wrote:
On September 24 2016 08:39 Calix wrote:
I daresay that cutting short a potential avenue for conversation is counterproductive to your stated aim of getting reactions. Did you get anything from Jealous and I?

@Daneler, were you going anywhere with your entrance post? All you did was agree with Jealous and point out that Stutters' entrance is odd.


I use "odd" and "strange" for I find something that might warrant suspicion, so that's what I was going with. Admittedly, not a strong lead, but I was hoping it would go somewhere.


The best person to make things 'go somewhere' is yourself, dear. Expecting others to do the work is never going to work out and only demonstrates a lack of initiative.

Since you proposed this line of thought, why do you think scum would open a post by claiming "non-scum" over say, "town" or not claiming at all or what have you?


I see no reason for Town to claim anything. They only care about getting the Mafia lynched. Mafia, however, wants Town to think they're also Town. By saying "I'm not Mafia" or "I'm Town", they can attempt to establish it early on, which is why I find it to be something that warrants suspicion.


I'm town, nice to meet ya.

Hi town. How many games have you played in and any mafia¿
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 01:34 GMT
#225
On September 24 2016 09:43 DoYouHas wrote:
Nevermind, I can just look it up myself.

Calix and Xata read pretty townie to me.

Don't know about you other 3 yet.


If you want to, go ahead, but my style is highly dependent on my activity level. I'm very self-aware of my meta as well, which doesnt help.

Town: more impulsive
Very likely to tunnel, especially on someone who attacks me early

Will defer to someone whose reads I respect(even if I don't think they're better than mine) when I don't know or know my lynch target won't happen.

Lately I've been very stream of conscious oriented with my posting until I get pushed for the lack of quoted cases, then I dump everything I've been thinking. Everyone realizes I was town and I get killed a night or two later.


As scum I try to emulate these things, but suck at pushing people except teammates. Haven't really played scum enough to see what other people catch me from.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 01:52 GMT
#226
Ebwop: Agreed about Calix. Very tonal, but it feels very genuine

Too early to have much better, but I would like to talk to Jealous and DH some more.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 05:17 GMT
#235
Going to the bar for a bit so don't expect a lot of activity. What is RVS
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 05:31 GMT
#236
On September 24 2016 11:46 SoulEaterQUEEN wrote:
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On September 24 2016 08:04 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately, looks like you can't vote for yourself in this setup :/

Interesting idea. What does this achieve?
Last time I checked, voting for yourself is a lazy way of avoiding pressure, gives no info, doesn't get you reads. Unless you are schizo ^_^


Also hi there.
I'm one of the newbs, this is my first on-site mafia, therefore I am not aware of the site meta. Also find it pointless to link off site meta examples personally. Too many players fall into the meta trap to conclude reads. Anyway this is shit fluff talking. Grill me, bake me, do whatever that makes you happy until my alignment cookie crumbles infront of you.
I'll post my RVS vote, and call it a night.

Emphasis mine. I'd lynch for this
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2016 23:03 GMT
#341
Seriously, did no one else catch what I quoted before I left besides Luna?

I'll give you a hint, go read SEQs filter (9 posts). The one I quoted shows a clear lack of reading, even incredibly early in the game.

I'm working another 2 hours, but if anyone has any questions fire away. No comment on the blue stuff, scum can try to figure it out on their own.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 25 2016 01:56 GMT
#348
On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote:
I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ.

I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond.

Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 25 2016 02:29 GMT
#351
On September 25 2016 11:02 DoYouHas wrote:
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On September 25 2016 10:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 25 2016 10:11 DoYouHas wrote:
I am around Stutters. What are your thoughts on ptmc? I'll trade you for some on SEQ.

I don't think ptmc is a better lynch before SEQ gets to respond.

Voting me with his focus on Luna is super weird also.


SEQ does not bother me much at all. He reads like he jumped in with both feet and started rooting around. The line you bolded would be weak reasoning if he had actually gone after Xata or spread suspicion on him, but I don't think he did. He moves on pretty quickly and after talking about mafia in a pretty general sense (not unusual for someone new to forum mafia, especially with Jealous getting into it too) he seems to be scumhunting. You have picked a pretty early statement from him that does not, to me, hold the significance you are assigning it.

All of his statements are from around that time. Not to mention the apologetic/cautious nature. Just kind of screams first time scum to me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 25 2016 02:38 GMT
#353
Will do in a bit. At a bar atm.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 25 2016 02:52 GMT
#356
I'll type this up in full once we leave and I go home, but drunk me would also be all about a Luna lynch
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