On August 11 2016 10:03 sicklucker wrote: The one thing that bugs me is that hf did this whole Trap thing and then kind of aborted his plan thinking it wont work. I still think theres a real possibilty he was going to weasel out of a cop claim or something and say it was just presure and try to get me lynched instead hes a crafty guy like that
I feel like we lynch him if he trys to ever get out of that.
Honestly, if GB flips mafia:
Dis could be maybe more town. Yet, kinda worried that GB just spurts it out that DIS is top scum read basically. Kinda feels like distanting in a weird way. Which the only thing that stopping me about it was how ok he was with putting pressure on dis.
You I honestly haven't cared enough to make up my mind.
HF is obv cop.
And that is it without diving GB.
If he is miller:
first we bitch about balance. Second. we question HF and lynch him if he ever backs away from the cop claim.
On August 10 2016 17:03 Holyflare wrote: When did I say you're with any of them? I'm saying if GB is miller you're dead mate. There's no coming back from this SL.
On August 10 2016 17:10 disformation wrote: Yeah, dunno those SL posts seem a bit TMI like... esp. with:
On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote: REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there
Like: "Oh crap, better distance myself from that a bit"
It really actually does now that I think of it. Its kinda like me calling SL a alien in Storm.
Actually it is exactlly like me from storm and him. I was RC, and checked him N1, and proceeded to keep calling him a alien (his role was Broodmother) for the rest of the game.
The only thing i could honestly think of to say about it is that its dumb for scum to even try to down talk HF if they know GF is going to flip miller. I mean they could just shut up, kill HF (who would be cop I suppose in this case) and then lynch who ever they needed to.
On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote: I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote: didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway
I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later
My first stream of posts was after your posts. My second stream of posts you had already bitched about it. but no im not really on board with the lunatic lynch. But at the same time I dont have a reason to think hes town yet. He was a really easy town read in the only game I played with him tho so I want to give him a day
SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?
come on hf your not a bad player. you know this post means I cant be with gb. or disinfo...
This makes me think SL isn't Mafia. My intuition says that he would never make this post as Mafia. The logic is flawed, by my intuition is strong. Basically, if you consider I'm town (which I am), there is no reason for SL to defend himself from that associafion when he knows I'll flip town (in case he is Mafia)
On August 10 2016 18:41 disformation wrote: Going to add the claims + the check, since I see currently see no reason to doubt them. So from my pov the VCA now looks like this:
On August 09 2016 06:44 mderg wrote: I don't really like this GB lynch stuff. Gb hasn't done jack shit but this feels a bit like an easy way out.
If he had switched to GB, this would have been 4 on GB and 4 on kush, creating a situation where a GB lynch had been way more probable. So he sits on the at the time super dead Luna wagon and votes kush, when it becomes super clear, that kush wil be the lynch. (despite his timing, he was kinda like the 8th vote, since it was kinda clear TW would switch, too, as per his rule).
So GB+mderg+Stutters makes a tone of sense to me here.
Jezz Mate, That's a nice catch...
Expect I decided Look at the damm Timestamps. 1 min before he posted that he wanted to switch, this was the vote count in the thread:
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
Ok sweetie? Ok.
Actually I take it back now. I being dumb.
I thought you were saying that Me'derg was scum with GB over not switching till like after after. I get what you talking about now.
Still going to call you sweetie to imply the fact I am more masculine then you. Sweetie.
On August 11 2016 10:42 GlowingBear wrote: Also I think grackaroni is Mafia. His approach to the thread is still of someone who is ready to accuse everyone, yet it doesn't seems he is thinking critically about all players alignments
I saw that too, but I enjoy shitposting with him too much to actively do anything to deter him.
On August 11 2016 10:41 Shapelog wrote: Furthermore,
On August 09 2016 06:51 disformation wrote: well according to tw's plan now is the time to move to the person with the most votes. since that is still kush. I will move there. can we PLEASE have two more ppl?
This is literally less then a min before his post announcing he (me'derg) was going to change.
If your going to do VCA, Please be arsed to look at the timestamps so I don't to waste my time going over them myself to double check your work.
Ok sweetie? Ok.
Actually I take it back now. I being dumb.
I thought you were saying that Me'derg was scum with GB over not switching till like after after. I get what you talking about now.
Still going to call you sweetie to imply the fact I am more masculine then you. Sweetie.
On August 10 2016 17:03 Holyflare wrote: When did I say you're with any of them? I'm saying if GB is miller you're dead mate. There's no coming back from this SL.
On August 10 2016 17:10 disformation wrote: Yeah, dunno those SL posts seem a bit TMI like... esp. with:
On August 10 2016 15:37 sicklucker wrote: REALLY UNLIKELY THO GUYS. just wanna throw that out there
Like: "Oh crap, better distance myself from that a bit"
It really actually does now that I think of it. Its kinda like me calling SL a alien in Storm.
Actually it is exactlly like me from storm and him. I was RC, and checked him N1, and proceeded to keep calling him a alien (his role was Broodmother) for the rest of the game.
The only thing i could honestly think of to say about it is that its dumb for scum to even try to down talk HF if they know GF is going to flip miller. I mean they could just shut up, kill HF (who would be cop I suppose in this case) and then lynch who ever they needed to.
But that is WIFOM at best.
ya but im not you... that was lolz bad
And my whole play that game was bad lol now that look back on it.
I am a Host of said game, and could prob. explain the meta on lunatic if you want. A course idk what they have for it, but there was a noticeable difference in his play.
On August 09 2016 21:57 mderg wrote: [quote] I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.
you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.
Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.
Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.
Honestly your not worth my time.
I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.
You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.
I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.
How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?
Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.
"again"
I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile. I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf)
I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.
The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him.
Also vengeance time. My tears have dried, but the emotional scars run deep. Mderg hasn't done anything since he callously drew attention to my crying in the corner. For shame!
But really, it's pretty weak to accuse me of doing nothing when his end of day vote was on Kushm4sta for the posts that I didn't like.
This post below is also suspect since his attitude towards people not doing anything seems a bit different when choosing his vote than earlier in the day and after the vote.
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
That was actually something I was going to include in the meta discussion lol. the fact you were working 24 hours during that game.
[u] part, Onegu is prob bleaching his eyes over it.
On August 11 2016 16:53 Holyflare wrote: Phase 2 going to be amazing.
Is there a Phase 3?
I like to get prepared if there is. Phase 2 came really quickly for me, and I haven't been able to go to walmart to buy fishing hooks for it. Sorry.
On August 11 2016 20:03 Lunaticman wrote:
The case against Disinformation, who promptly lives up to his name as a mafia spreading lies and deceit:
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On August 07 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: So how's everyone doing at this fine <insert local time of day here>? @Tumble: have we played in a game together before? I think I obs-warriored a few games you were in, but not sure if we played together yet.
no
hm. thought so. Lots of ppl I haven't played with before in this actually. I am also noticing quite a bit of brevity on your part. I do hope your <insert local time of day here> is okay. Or are you unhappy with which fate RNGesus provided you?
This very first post set of red flags for me, it actually implies that he has a power role. Since he never stated he was happy or unhappy with his own role, it is in all regards a Freudian slip after reading his own role pm. I wanted to save this for later but it feels like the right time to reveal it considering that all the blue roles have been claimed. He then posts 4 posts in a row just WIFOIMNG which indicates that he is kinda chill about the whole game, of course he is because he knows who the mafia are.
On August 07 2016 16:11 sicklucker wrote: wanna just rng this shit
Mafia
On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote: Town Damdred
Mafia Disformation
Step up people.
Where is sicklucker in the second post?
With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred. It also such an early post that is feels constructed in a way, taking a stance to look like town. But early enough you can just claim WIFOIMING later. Or at the very late game when Disinformation is lynched and GB is alive towncred. It is all followed by a "I was joking post". Obviously the mafia had a change of heart. It is actually a very clever way to create distance between the two players.
The rest of his filter is full of filler but no effort to solve the game or any real content. He states several times he is going to look at mine/Gracs meta from last game. But never truly arrives at any conclusion. His filter is also full of statements that he is going to do all this work but it never arrives. I have yet to see a single list from his work.
And now look at the conversation between the posts 287# - 303#. With the information now available Tumble our Jailer is positive either Grac or Dis are mafia. The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Vote Count - Day 1
Not voted (4): Shapelog, Stutters695, Vivax, Damdred
Currently no one is slated to be lynched. There are 13 players presently alive and 7 are needed for the lynch. This day ends in 0m 0s at 00:00 CEST (+02:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.
With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:
Shapelog/GB/Disinformation
It is also cute to look at the interactions between Shapelog/GB and Dis, they are really doing a good job separating their reads/communication etc. There is for example a long qoute on shapelog from Dis where he basically says nothing.
Note: I have tons of posts qouted but it was just to much work atm, also the coloring on dis is based on my read and GB from cop claim. Even if GB flips town it is highly likely that disinformation is still mafia.
At this critical junction we have one mafia bussing but I would be surprised if two mafia were bussing this early this speaks volumes about Grac being a VT.
With the coloring and my townreads on Mderg and SL there are only a few names left in the trio not known. It comes down to Shapelog or Stutters. I don't think a mafia would be as inactive as Stutters as Viva was so atm the current mafia team looks like this:
With the information now available to us it is easy to see that the GB mafia is trying to shade the Disinformation mafia for late game cred.
That makes no sense if you think GB was busing Dis. Why would GB try to give Dis late game cred, if he was intenting to bus Dis, aka killing him? If anything, it becomes obv that GB would be bussing dis like i kinda talked about before.
Like this is a post he made before you looked better to the thread:
On August 09 2016 02:44 Holyflare wrote: I have a pretty big hunch that SL is 100% mafia so it's not really a hunch but facts
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote: didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway
I definitely targeted a weaker person in this game and he hasn't said shit about it and super dodged everything about me later
My first stream of posts was after your posts. My second stream of posts you had already bitched about it. but no im not really on board with the lunatic lynch. But at the same time I dont have a reason to think hes town yet. He was a really easy town read in the only game I played with him tho so I want to give him a day
SL lets lynch disfo, then after that we kynch HF. What do you think?
If they are mafia together, GB is hard bussing Dis. In fact, if they are mafia (dis/GB) it makes no sense for Dis to choose you to be someone he pushes when GB (a team mate) cannot support due to what he said.
Also this is kinda overstating.
The entire exchange is intresting since GB is indeed mafia just look at the votelist from around that time it is obvious that the mafia are trying to save disinformation when they failed to start a train on me.
Day 1, GB wasn't on you. He was trying to get HF/DIS and stuff. If he was trying to save him, via lynching you, why isn't GB (the connection you have between the two in question) not doing anything to push it? I mean, he was on at the time to do so as well.
I mean yes, GB was pushing Dis. But he could still have casted sus. on you to where others picked it up on it. In fact, he also wanted to lynch HF, who was someone supporting the lunatic lynch.
it makes no sense for Dis to choose you to be someone he pushes when GB (a team mate) cannot support due to what he said.
since i realized this:
I mean yes, GB was pushing Dis. But he could still have casted sus. on you to where others picked it up on it. In fact, he also wanted to lynch HF, who was someone supporting the lunatic lynch.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. Did CC the vet eod D2 and got him lynched (the vet was super super inactive). So 1/4 of his filter is like trolling the town after that and post game and stuff. Does not have a bad case + Show Spoiler +
bad case, get it?! hehe
of tunnelvision. Posts exactly 1 reads list. Exactly n1. Exactly what he did here. Feels a lot more subdued in NSM XXII than here though.
Fun fact that is prolly NAI, but really cute: In NSM XXII and here he instantly voted during the N1 phase. + Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2016 20:28 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Rels
Fyi this vote won't be counted since it was cast before day two officially began.
here:
On August 09 2016 16:42 Lunaticman wrote: #Vote Disinformation
He didn't do that in his towngame in 72h from what I see.
@activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Again would love for grack and sl to chime in.
The NAI is NAI because he thought it was the day phase in NSM due to people talking (which 72 hours didn't have.
Currently GlowingBear is slated to be lynched. There are 10 players presently alive and 6 are needed for the lynch. This day ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
GB should be a hipster and self vote.
That way he can claim post game if he is scum that he was on the winning wagon for D2.
On August 12 2016 04:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think it's kinda funny how in this game and last game people are trying to meta read me. I'll honestly just do whatever I want and feel like. But it's nice to see your trying to solve the game (and looking at the filters like you said you would).
If I was a VTdis though, I would have nailed stutters for meta instead of me. He is playing very differently than his last town game.
And also the amount of posts I make heavily depends on how much time I have when I'm working.
On August 12 2016 04:36 disformation wrote: NSM XXII. Starring: Lunatic Man. Mafia Goon. Lynched D3. [...] @activity: from what I am reading his activity really depends on his job, with him having some wild/weird shifts from time to time, so activity is prolly not a good metric for him.
Okay, maybe I should have made it more clear for stutters: I thought the wowzers would imply that I am taken aback by how different the filters are. On your activity: lo and behold, I said the same thing.
Protip: I've played over 20 games. There are ways to catch me as scum, but activity is quite literally the worst one to pick.
haha, why don't you share your prefered way to catch them then?
Your so evasive... God I'm going to switch you for Shape in my 3x mafia pile.
Eh it works pretty well. I've only been mislynched once ironically for being too busy to play). My townieness will be established in time like it always is. I'm not worried.
Anyway, when mafia I bus a lot. Like if I have a slam dunk case, it's because I know. If I'm pushing a town it's much more timid. I also would generally make it a point of emphasis to be more active than I was d1. I would have posted something, even if it wasn't great, rather than essentially nothing to ensure I wasn't a prime vig target. I also wouldn't come back and say essentially nothing.
It's all wifom anyway since obviously I'm aware of my own meta, but activity is not an indicator for me.
I'd be a fine policy lynch though.
I prob will check that to make sure, but if it is true, you and me both brotha
On August 12 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote: You mean a meek shitty defence into afk? Of course it fits he's mafia.
lol, i mean if hes town wouldn't he have voted someone now since he littlery spent the last 47 hours talking about SR and such? Or you for that matter.
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