On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
I don't think GB's unwillingness to change his reads points towards him being scum. It looked like he had a scumread on you for your opening and then didn't bother to play the game. That's fucking lazy and bad as either alignment.
On August 09 2016 16:57 disformation wrote: Good morning. As time progresses GB is wandering down towards the bottom of my list. Unwillingness to change ones reads is a good scum indicator in my experience. Not that he really has any reads besides me. Might be a bit biased therefore though.
I want to completely reread/reevaluate grack and luna.
@Luna: I still have no idea why you want to lynch me. Plus now you are saying that the other guy who wants to lynch me is a good shot? You are making very little sense to me. Also it is night time your current vote is invalid.
TBH Luna might just be one of those ppl I can't read for shit, but let me look at his filter later. Also not going the VCA at work, so you guys have to wait for this evening for that.
I don't think GB's unwillingness to change his reads points towards him being scum. It looked like he had a scumread on you for your opening and then didn't bother to play the game. That's fucking lazy and bad as either alignment.
Mderg tell me who is mafia.
I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.
Lol, Lunatic reminded me about Me'derg.
I would really really love to hear any sus. you have on any players other than lunatic. You seem to had some earlier, and apparently decided that you would just state the lunatic, and no others.
If medic doesn't protect me I'm going to be really mad
The makes this sentence less threatening, therefore, I am adding a sin.
I don't know but I for sure don't like your position in this game.
you know I think your town because a mafia wouldn't say something so stupid.
Tell me what makes you not scum mister I didn't like the kush lynch therefore I'm town.
Yes it was more profound than that but "ok", if you want your entire filter to consist of why I am scum that's fine with me. I got a challenge for you. Post something that doesn't involve shading me and see what pops up.
Honestly your not worth my time.
I don't want to write anything that could get me into trouble, so I'll just say this condescending attitude of yours doesn't make me like you more.
You sound like Skynx 2.0, and you still didn't answer my question.
I mean if you don't want to scum hunt don't blame me for it.
How about you start explaining why you are town, so a stupid 3 year old like me can understand?
Why don't you give me a list of who you think is mafia besides me and reason, and I might explain it again.
"again"
I'm fairly confident there's a scum between Vivax/Stutters/GB just based of the fact that they didn't do shit. The wagons this game don't really give me the feeling of being scum driven with how much back and forth there was between them. That makes me think at least one scum has to be hiding in the not doing shit pile. I guess you could put sicklucker into the same pile but he somehow feels different. Like he just does whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about how others see him (minus hf)
I still don't really like grack, after he cried about getting lynched and people leaving his wagon, he hasn't done jack shit. Like a scum feeling safe again and deciding to leave it at that. I get that his opening was very active and he boldly pushed a kush lynch quite a bit. But that's not too strange for scum to do.
The rest of the game is a bit of a mess. I don't ever want to lynch tumble. Also don't want to lynch shape. disfo had a strange opening but the rest of his game seemed fine to me. Damdred is disappointing but had like one post I really liked. Holyflare I didn't really like but his insane narcissism makes me lean towards town on him.
Eh,
So Me'derg likes Vivax/Stutters/GB for 1-2 scums and Grack I suppose for a 3rd. With lunatic somewhere. Vivax/Stutters/GB seems easy for anyone to jump on rn. Grack is a bit better of a read i suppose, but again, eh. Luanitc idk cause the thread is all over with opionons.
I guess what I am saying, is that nothing in these reads stands out, or jumps to me. They are all a bit, Generic...
I mean, the only read that I was impressed about was the 1 post about lunctic. Which reminds me I need to revise him (lunatic)
On August 10 2016 04:29 Lunaticman wrote: I tried reading the front page about the role setup, all it says is no abnormal roles. That doesn't mean anything to me. What are the possible roles in the game?
Just basic stuff like cop/medic/godfather/framer/jailkeeper/vigilante I presume? Can check other normal games and see some roles.
Masons too (part 1)
And roles can be mutishot, 1 shot, 2 shot etc. if the first part is also to be looked at.
On August 10 2016 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Also don't town read me because I'm narcissistic lol just town read me because I was right on GB mafia
1st: Wrong Grammar, Should be will in this case. 2nd: Mighty Logical HF is mighty with his logic, and totally didn't just make a paradox for people who town read him for the second bold, due to the first bold making it a false read, till GB flips.
Shape Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.
Hahahaha, No.
Have you seen me read Kush?
Ask him post game if you don't believe me now. But I have always been sus. of Kush whenever we play together. And many, many, many, many times, it ends with a ML. With how he was posting this game, I honestly thought he was going to flip scum, finally, and i be redeemed. yet, I honestly cannot tell when it comes to Kush if I am right or not.
Hell, I've even mislynched kush in Lylo when apparently he was obv townie. Brav and Part 1 I was sus. of him as well. Town in all of those.
On August 10 2016 05:33 Lunaticman wrote: I haven't played with GB before so I don't know about him. But I got a townread on SL. Did he explain why he didn't move his vote?
I've played with GB a few times long ago. He got mislynched Day 1 like 3 times in a roll as town. He got bussed d2 when he rolled scum. I think he got pretty far in Outlaw as scum. Cannot remember why.
He has no prob. posting or not posting as either alignment. Tone wise I never can tell. Kinda similar And he smells sometimes.
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
We talking about HF's progression on his read on you.
What I am saying is basically this: HF comes and pushes you. Calls you 100% mafia, and basically just really up for your death. You come back and start posting, and HF somewhat quickly loosens up on his read on you. Quickly enough, to where I feel that it is too quick for scum (I feel scum would continue it for a bit longer). And, during a time that you were viewed as a good lynch. So instead of pushing you, when he could easily do during then, and drop off later if needed. He changed his mind, and even pushed another lynch instead.
On August 10 2016 04:44 disformation wrote: @Tumble: small question: what made you say this:
On August 09 2016 06:59 Tumblewood wrote: kush flips town I know it ...but, it's better than nothing
Timestamps unfortunately don't help me discern if you saw him post this just before:
On August 09 2016 06:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Wow shapelog is actually doubting the randomness of my rng lynch..
And even then I am not entirely sure what you saw there.
Also working on a wall, so stay tuned folks!
no, I didn't, but I agreed in thread with the second quote I have trouble believing that shape would ever be skeptical of the verity of kush using the exact method of randomness he previously said he would use.
Answer, My Fucking post. ... Please.
Also, Why do u think i wouldn't be skeptical?
I wouldn't have had a problem with the "RNG" lynch, if the result of the "RNG" lynch seemed to be legibly "RNG" and not the top wagon at the time. Like I un....Well no I do not understand what the fuck that giant block of math was.
Anyways, even if i did understand and believed it "RNGed" picked the top wagon, I would still had vote for him, for the other reasoning in my post.
On August 10 2016 06:26 disformation wrote: Thanks for clarifying. TBH that is one of those things that give me trouble reading shape. Sometimes it just makes no sense. -.-
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
I think he means that he came to the same conclusion as me?
On August 10 2016 05:35 Shapelog wrote: Comment on the rest of Dis post later.
Shape Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.
Hahahaha, No.
Have you seen me read Kush?
Ask him post game if you don't believe me now. But I have always been sus. of Kush whenever we play together. And many, many, many, many times, it ends with a ML. With how he was posting this game, I honestly thought he was going to flip scum, finally, and i be redeemed. yet, I honestly cannot tell when it comes to Kush if I am right or not.
Hell, I've even mislynched kush in Lylo when apparently he was obv townie. Brav and Part 1 I was sus. of him as well. Town in all of those.
If you want links, I can give you some.
Yeah, links would be cool. But I will def. not be able to read them b4 night is over.
Eh, I try to get them before day cycle. Have to a bit of digging.
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote: Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote: ##vote Lunaticman
Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?
no comment on me missing that. xD Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places. Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
I'm tired what does this mean?
We talking about HF's progression on his read on you.
What I am saying is basically this: HF comes and pushes you. Calls you 100% mafia, and basically just really up for your death. You come back and start posting, and HF somewhat quickly loosens up on his read on you. Quickly enough, to where I feel that it is too quick for scum (I feel scum would continue it for a bit longer). And, during a time that you were viewed as a good lynch. So instead of pushing you, when he could easily do during then, and drop off later if needed. He changed his mind, and even pushed another lynch instead.
HF is definitely smart enough to see that he would have to drop his Luna push as scum. I still think the scum is GB and not HF though between the two. Plus day post may reveal more on that front.
Yeah ik, and if it was later I would say the same thing. Just IMO, he did it faster then I think scum would do. I mean, he asked luna 1 question after he came back and posted 2 posts, and just laid off.
Posting this now, Need to look SL, finish on Dis. I'll post those reads later.
Read list
Updated Reads in the case I die.
Town (no order):
HolyFlareGun Batman! Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.
GB flipping scum honestly wouldn't make me move him up or down. Mostly because his beahvior and posting is much like mine when I am hardcore bussing.
Town Leans:
Dis I liking Dis more now. Active and seems to be pushing the game further. Posts seem good, and is actually doing content filled shit during the night phase.
Damdred: I actually share a lot of the same ideas with damdred after looking thru his filter. His activity is pretty good to look at, since i would imagine if he rolled scum (would be third time) he would be less active. Nothing jumps out to me as scummy when I read. Yet nothing did when i was town last two games lol. I find the holding of the vote reasonable as well.
Lunatic:He really started to look better in my eyes. His logic sometimes don't make sense, but eh. Mine sometimes doesn't either. Hes kinda hit all the spots for me right now, in regards to why I was scumming him. Would like to hear a response about the dis/damdred/vivax team comment I made to him.
Null (no order):
Grack:
Grackaren: I liked his approach to Kush, he keep pushing who he thought was sus. (Kush), and I like some of his reads. He also has done a good chunk more then others, and I wouldn't consider him for a Day 1 lynch rn.
I really like his Day 1 posts.
The only thing I got to add, is that he seems a little bit focus on survival (see posts #363 and #334) Which is something I suspect a mafia to be like. He was, tbf, close to the top lead, but doesn't moot the point entirely. I def. will revist him during the night post, or D2 if I am alive (lol)
Since then hes been kinda meh. Lower post count and such. Made me laugh with the Dam/HF relationship post. After being off the chopping block, he seems fine being a clown, yet on it, was stressing out. Which makes posts #363 and #334 more alarming. If he keeps it up, I prob move him more and more down. However, there are others that are either not active enough, or just aren't decent.
I do like shit posters tho....
Me'Derg: Generic. Honestly could be scum. If you honestly have to ask why, read my filter.
The only emoticon he showed was with lunatic, and i couldn't really gather anything from it. If it wasn't for the fact I could understand where the reads come from (honestly I have the same sus. about vivax and GB looking at their filters) he just seems to be floating by.
Tumblewood: Starting to kinda look like the tumble I know. I WISH HE WOULD FUCKING RESPOND TO MY POSTS TO/ABOUT HIM. But w/e. Posting fine enough i suppose, looks like he cares, and if i was paying attention to him during his last scum game, I would have something smart to say about his scum meta. Might actually look into that. The Dis read still kinda bothers me though, and I have asked for him to comment (i like trying to, if i can, to debate with people i find scummish) on it, yet nothing. Fixed on me and the RNG thing
Null In-actives:
Stutter: Well the only thing I had really on him that I felt like could maybe = a little bit of townie points was shot down, by him and others. Just is hoping on the GB train.
Mafia Reads
Vobby: Vivax honestly should be put lower. After all, he is basically following his scum meta right now. If he barely comes back, Auto lynch him (unless RL probs. a course) Before, he made decent posts but eh...
Had time to say he voted kush for no reason, yet had none to do anything else. Reminds me of Kel in.. God what was it called? Anyways, in that game kel missed the vote, and said "I thought deadline was later" which would mean that he would set time for it. Yet, he dis-speared afterwards (he was scum). And while it might not be the same setting, you would think vivax would post something or anything.
And yes, I here you meta conformist saying "meta is crap." But read up on vivax's scum meta, and you see what I mean. It's litterateur a reverse Koshi.
GlowingBear:
Glowingbear:Glowing Bear: (Not D1 lynch): I liked the posts I read from GB from the earlier part of the game. It felt natural in a way, and I even came to some of the same conclusions he did. My problem is, is that he kinda has fallen flat towards the end of the cycle. And it worries me because mafia tends to slack, when they get Town points.
That said, GB isn't in my pool for a D1 lynch though. If he keeps up with the last point, I will be considering him for a Day 2 lynch, unless he makes a really good content post to balance the activity out.
No on active and No really good content post. Vote is irrelevant to look at, since GB was afk during then. Would place lower, but I don't honestly have a grand contental reasoning to put him lower.
On August 10 2016 07:08 Holyflare wrote: why on earth would the vig claim, no thanks
Because I'd rather have the information now. We could be at lylo day 3 and there could be a fake claim by then that would require every townie to vote correctly to win.
EPT
