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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:11 GMT
#341
On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
[...]
beentheredonethat: do something. Literally anything. Call someone scum. Call someone town. Ask a question of someone. Whatever. Also I'd like some thoughts about where you were coming from with that godawful call to lynch Race "before" a replacement.
[...]

Are my previous posts asking those questions? If there are specific questions open, let me know.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 01 2016 18:11 GMT
#342
As far as actives go, Grack definitely seems like the best lynch. His thought process doesn't flow with a townie trying to find scum, yet he had been making substantially more effort for being so iffy about the game.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:12 GMT
#343
On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote:
That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that.


First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it!

Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm.

Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol.

Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it.

Be back in a couple of hours from work.

This is a post that is absolutely empty and has no content at all.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:13 GMT
#344
On August 02 2016 03:11 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as actives go, Grack definitely seems like the best lynch. His thought process doesn't flow with a townie trying to find scum, yet he had been making substantially more effort for being so iffy about the game.

Care to explain? And I am making effort but the game is impossible when nobody posts.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
August 01 2016 18:13 GMT
#345
On August 02 2016 02:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Scott why is J Roc in your not lynch category?


I still feel like he's town from his earlier posts - like the one I mentioned before -

On August 01 2016 04:27 J Roc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 02:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
Kill Race Bannon before the replacement. Best kill so far. A player that has already stirred so much chaos and made himself unreadable will never be able to fully establish himself as town thus he should be killed asap.



Find it interesting that he wants to lynch the spot for reasons other than policy.


Now I see his last post -
On August 01 2016 20:30 J Roc wrote:
Just something real quick and I will be back later.

I really hated scotts entrance.

Race Bannons actions completely null and the fact that he came in here saying he knew RB was town from a obs point of view is really off to me.

Also the dude who wrote the huge post. You have pocketed me. Well played. Not voting you.

Ill be back later.

##Vote: Scott


Now this seems more of a townie mindset (although wrong) from my point of view - it's a direct point and ballsy - instead of what mderg's trying to pull off.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:15 GMT
#346
On August 01 2016 20:30 J Roc wrote:
Just something real quick and I will be back later.

I really hated scotts entrance.

Race Bannons actions completely null and the fact that he came in here saying he knew RB was town from a obs point of view is really off to me.

Also the dude who wrote the huge post. You have pocketed me. Well played. Not voting you.

Ill be back later.

##Vote: Scott

I strongly disagree, scott's entrance was decent IMHO, starting to directly get into the spotlight and push people. The only thing that I can think of that could be suspicious is that his initial "people jumping on Race Bannon" post implies that Race Bannon is town. He cannot know that if he's town so he's either really really sure about it (which he cannot be) or he's scum.

Wait. That's actually a good point and makes me withdraw my initial town stance on him.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
August 01 2016 18:15 GMT
#347
On August 02 2016 03:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
So while I was reading the thread a couple hours ago, I knew RB was town for two reasons:
1. When he got voted on, he kept trolling
2. The votes piled up wayy too quickly

And I was right!

So I'm going to look at who voted for him and when and I think we'll find mafia there.


Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 07:30 scott31337 wrote:
KelsierSC Mderg Stutters and BTDT


Good stuff. Me town. Mderg probably town (I'm on page 14 thus far). Stutters no idea, and kelsier sounds fucked up, saying the game is terrible and so on. So Kelsier/Stutters.


So I see some townreads.

Who do you want to lynch? Name at least two people and priority.

You haven't swayed my mind any with your posts so far.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:17 GMT
#348
On August 02 2016 02:38 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read?

Yes.

On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking.

I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it.

This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy?

I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this.

However I have huge issues with this bit:

[quote]

No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean.
The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's.

I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia.

Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic!

As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things.

My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott.

I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away.

That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise).

explAin dood

Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative.

scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

So do you think btdt's post was shit or good?

it was bad

So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post?

The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again.

btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".

That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.


Just so you are aware, giving some one a town point is different than townreading the person. I didn't say I townread the guy - It's more of a mental note that we agreed on something, and he's not in my lynch pile for now. You're trying to change my words to fit your agenda.

I know who I am, and I think you're trying to reach to get me mislynched.

Wouldn't Lynch Today
Lunaticman
silentwarrior
-Celestial-
MoosyDoosy
Stutters695
J Roc
Grackaroni

Null:
KelsierSC
Skynx
Rels

Would Lynch:

Mderg
beentheredonethat

I need to get this pot roast started - I'll be back.

Does your stance on me still hold as I have risen up in terms of activity?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 01 2016 18:18 GMT
#349
Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:18 GMT
#350
On August 02 2016 03:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
[...]
beentheredonethat: do something. Literally anything. Call someone scum. Call someone town. Ask a question of someone. Whatever. Also I'd like some thoughts about where you were coming from with that godawful call to lynch Race "before" a replacement.
[...]

Are my previous posts asking those questions? If there are specific questions open, let me know.

EBWOP: *answering
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:19 GMT
#351
On July 31 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote:
I'm just going to assume Bannon is town because of the excessive posting. He is doing the exact same thing I did last game only as a incomprehensible mess.

Actually why is everyone calling out my post when Lunatic posted a town read on Race Bannon for worse reasons?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:20 GMT
#352
On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote:
Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me.

I don't want to lynch Rels because he could be incredibly useful if he's town.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 01 2016 18:21 GMT
#353
On August 02 2016 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote:
I'm just going to assume Bannon is town because of the excessive posting. He is doing the exact same thing I did last game only as a incomprehensible mess.

Actually why is everyone calling out my post when Lunatic posted a town read on Race Bannon for worse reasons?

I pointed this out, only Moosy said something.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:21 GMT
#354
On August 02 2016 03:15 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 03:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 01 2016 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
So while I was reading the thread a couple hours ago, I knew RB was town for two reasons:
1. When he got voted on, he kept trolling
2. The votes piled up wayy too quickly

And I was right!

So I'm going to look at who voted for him and when and I think we'll find mafia there.


On August 01 2016 07:30 scott31337 wrote:
KelsierSC Mderg Stutters and BTDT


Good stuff. Me town. Mderg probably town (I'm on page 14 thus far). Stutters no idea, and kelsier sounds fucked up, saying the game is terrible and so on. So Kelsier/Stutters.


So I see some townreads.

Who do you want to lynch? Name at least two people and priority.

You haven't swayed my mind any with your posts so far.

Lunatic. There's no priority at this point, we're 18 pages in. Lunatics posts feel as if they have been enlarged artificially. Lots of words, not much content. I am not liking this. Priority 2 would be you, scott, since I feel like people have very ambivalent stances towards you. While I townread your entry initially, I find it highly suspicious that you are so sure that Race Bannon was... fuck, you're his replacement lol.

Okay nevermind.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 01 2016 18:22 GMT
#355
On August 02 2016 03:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote:
Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me.

I don't want to lynch Rels because he could be incredibly useful if he's town.

Unless there is obv scum, I won't lynch anyone active right now.
Who are your lynches?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 01 2016 18:23 GMT
#356
Well I'd lynch Lunatic. Or Moosy. His style was so frustrating (or at least I pretended to be frustrated because I was scum in that game) last game, and now he's all reasonable. 180 degrees of change. And while he's seemingly acting reasonably, he's not pushing anything or anyone like really, really hard, so he might just appear to try to fit in.

##unvote
##vote Lunatic
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 01 2016 18:23 GMT
#357
Btw 5 votes on Scott right now is super bad I'm pretty sure most of them came from RB trolling.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:25 GMT
#358
After reading some of BtDt's posts I actually want to lynch Lunatic. He's a lot less active this game and most of his filter has just been talking about me because I had fooled him in the last game.
On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote:
That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that.


First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it!

Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm.

Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol.

Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it.

Be back in a couple of hours from work.

On August 01 2016 18:40 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 14:51 Skynx wrote:
On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:
On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post:
On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:
Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though.

But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC

On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted.


So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us.

On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game

##vote Race Bannon

See you all in a few days


Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post.
I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do.
##vote Kelsier SC


I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone.
I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak.


It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny?

He asked for people's opinions, I gave one, how's that being sceptical of anyone? Also previous games shouldn't have an effect on how you approach people if they are not massive trolls. If you feel like you have such a good feel in his playstyle after 1 game and can meta read him based off of that 24h into a new game please inform us.


That's what I did I must say I think he played brilliantly last game so of course I put him under the spotlight. I think he is probably town since it feels like he's intention is to solve the game atm. But he already fooled me once so we will have to wait and see I suppose.

I don't like this response post to Celestial. If he's spending so much time thinking about my alignment why doesn't he say anything about anything Celestial addressed aside from praising him for writing a long post. It just seems too bland to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 01 2016 18:26 GMT
#359
##Vote: Lunaticman
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 01 2016 18:29 GMT
#360
On August 02 2016 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 03:11 Stutters695 wrote:
As far as actives go, Grack definitely seems like the best lynch. His thought process doesn't flow with a townie trying to find scum, yet he had been making substantially more effort for being so iffy about the game.

Care to explain? And I am making effort but the game is impossible when nobody posts.

You have two pages of filter, but not a single lynch candidate. What are you making an effort towards, because it doesn't seem to be finding scum.
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