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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote: 1: RB kept trolling when roles piled up on him. While scum may not panic sometimes, he definitely didn't look like he gave two fucks if he died right then. 2: Scott had a nice entry 3: You guys are just voting to shut him up, now regardless of alignment its a different player who is at least putting effor in the game. This is pretty much how I've felt all game on this but expressed a lot more clearly. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote: 1: RB kept trolling when roles piled up on him. While scum may not panic sometimes, he definitely didn't look like he gave two fucks if he died right then. 2: Scott had a nice entry 3: You guys are just voting to shut him up, now regardless of alignment its a different player who is at least putting effor in the game. 1. I agree 2. I don't think so. In my opinion his entry was pretty bad 3. No, for me at least. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote: Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me. I wouldn't mind lynching rels since he is super inactive. This is how he survived like 5 town lynches in a row last game. Also I'm still salty from last game. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On August 02 2016 03:12 beentheredonethat wrote: This is a post that is absolutely empty and has no content at all. I can see why you think that but at the time of the posting the game was almost dead. Also it contained effort which I liked. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote: Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset. I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player. I think this numbers pretty high I'm thinking you're town but I'm not buying Grack as scum. BTDT has looked slightly better and mderg hasn't changed, so... | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote: Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset. I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player. I don't see Grack being scum here, based on activity alone. He's at lest getting people to talk even if he doesn't throw out well founded reads like crazy. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote: Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset. I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player. pot to kettle, what color are you? You've posted about one player in this game, me. You still haven't demonstrated how I've failed to show a townie mindset. That's just buzzwords. | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:01 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah exactly. How does voting the person you think is scum make me "scummy even more." You misunderstood me. It makes you more scum to follow my opinion. Not him more scum to scumread you. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
scott31337 (3): KelsierSC, mderg, Lunaticman (1): KelsierSC (1): Rels (1): Skynx Stutters695 (1): mderg (1): Beentheredonethat (0): Not Voting (5): Lunaticman, -Celestial-, MoosyDoosy, Rels, Stutters695 Currently Scott31337 is set to be lynched. The deadline is Monday, Aug 01 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to vote! | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote: Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset. I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player. And this isn't actually accurate either. Lunatic has a scum read on Kelsier for his opening post. I didn't because I didn't think there was anything alignment indicative there. Now somehow the lack of content is somehow falling on me. I won't make reads out of nothing. However, I've actually posted some pretty good points on Lunatic. The only post I've liked from Luna so far is his Kelsier post where he seemed really confident that Kelsier was mafia. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:03 Grackaroni wrote: Last game Rels actually did go away for the weekend. It wasn't a scum strategy from him to disappear. No but it did save him since he used it as an excuse and he was scum. I wont have that again. Also I'd much rather lynch someone who isn't typing anything at all than someone who is trying to contribute towards solving the game. The silent mafia is always the worst. He had plenty of time to do one post. The players posting are more likely to make a mistake the more they post. And this "save him he might help us later is just a bunch of crap". | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On August 02 2016 03:19 Grackaroni wrote: Actually why is everyone calling out my post when Lunatic posted a town read on Race Bannon for worse reasons? No mafia in their right mind would ever do something like that because of "policy lynching" is a thing day one. Since he got banned and replaced we don't have to think about that anymore but I am certain he wasn't mafia. Which kinda makes Scott town I suppose. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On August 02 2016 00:09 Grackaroni wrote: See I just don't get it. I think the most obvious assumption here is that Scott actually believed that Race Bannon was town for those reasons prior to joining and then wrote that post regardless of what alignment RB is. Though I don't entirely agree that scott necessarily believed that...its still a very cute way to enter and I absolutely agree its something you write regardless of RB's alignment given that you just replaced him. You make it sound like a revelation and it sounds a lot better than going "okay I'm town". On August 02 2016 00:24 Grackaroni wrote: Now the formatting is really going to get out of control! If you really think that it's non-alignment indicative, why do you like Stutters for scum reading him and dislike me for town reading him? You townread stutters for this post and subsequent questioning of me? Isn't he making an argument that Race Bannon had changed his meta because he rolled scum? I wasn't actually townreading him for scumreading Race. I was townreading him because it feels like a very town mentality to be effectively going "come on, he can do better than this, being stupid like this is harmful to the game" rather than just dismissing him as being an idiot. I didn't read into it that he was saying that RB had changed his meta because he rolled scum, just that he was changing is meta general to be less readable. In fact he specifically says in your quote that RB has been coherent as both alignments before. That's how I read that post anyway. That's kind of where I'm at though. I can't discern much out of the filters since they're all very short and talk about things that I don't find very telling. My first feeling was that Silent's post seemed townie and that scum would probably want to push him. It doesn't make for a convincing case, but those are my feels lol. Ah. I didn't expect to get much from saying that I thought the post was fine, so I wanted to do my way to see if I could get more information, which I really didn't. This part of the post actually seems quite contrived to me. I wrote Scott instead of Race Bannon just because he was the person that filled that slot. What could I possibly have to gain from this sleight of hand? My problem with silent isn't so much that he opened that way (though its still pretty awful) but that he still feels that way. Yeah, I understand the point he's making about Kelsier being lazy there and not contributing; but its fairly easy to see a town being wound up as much as anyone at the RB stuff. Fair enough on the second point. As for the third here...what you'd have to gain is to strengthen your case a little on mderg. I'm just tugging at things that don't fit here really. It just felt a rather unfair accusation to say they were trying to lynch a replacement when their vote was on the replacee in an apparent effort to lynch a spammer; particularly when they hadn't come back to comment on said replacement. Its a habit of mine to try and pick at things that seem a little deceptive. On August 02 2016 03:11 beentheredonethat wrote: Are my previous posts asking those questions? If there are specific questions open, let me know. Yes, that stuff helps quite a bit thanks. I'll have a think if I got any specific questions based on what you said, I was just wanting something, ANYTHING, about your thought processes at that point because I could do is sit there and go "yeah this post is bad" without having anything more to go on. On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote: Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me. This is a total waste of a lynch vote...just saying... On August 02 2016 03:39 Skynx wrote: This Grack vs btdt/stutters is very unlikely tvtt, please keep going. Quite possibly. This whole argument is very messy but doesn't feel townie, there's something distinctly shady in there. On everything else: I can kinda see where people are going with scott now. Yeah, I guess I can see where you're going but I also don't like that wagon much. It feels really bad right now. Especially since there's been no real attempt to get people off it. It feels like nobody cares that scott is going to get lynched, which is bad because if he was mafia I'd expect a much stronger effort to get those votes off and push someone else given how weak said wagon is. One positive thing I can say about scott has already sort of been addressed by BTDT just before actually, more specifically: if scott is mafia it'd have been super easy for scott to go "okay guys, I'm in now, give me some time to catch up and think things out" and then just drop into lurking for most of the rest of D1 whilst his mafia buddies worked at getting the votes onto someone else before he returned to the thread. Posting as soon as he got in is a risky play if he actually is scum. Very much AGAINST lynching scott today. Though this doesn't put him in the clear, I'm still bouncing back and forth on the posts he's made; I'm just against it because it doesn't feel like this is the way the game would play out if scott was scum. Also I doubt I'm lynching Stutters today. Just putting that down there. Also at present: - silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier - Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:15 Grackaroni wrote: And this isn't actually accurate either. Lunatic has a scum read on Kelsier for his opening post. I didn't because I didn't think there was anything alignment indicative there. Now somehow the lack of content is somehow falling on me. I won't make reads out of nothing. However, I've actually posted some pretty good points on Lunatic. The only post I've liked from Luna so far is his Kelsier post where he seemed really confident that Kelsier was mafia. Also I said early that I would try to post less to appease some of the other players. If you are going that route we should lynch rels. | ||
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Lunaticman
Sweden1097 Posts
#Vote Rels | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:21 Lunaticman wrote: Also I said early that I would try to post less to appease some of the other players. If you are going that route we should lynch rels. The difference is that I know Rels isn't afraid to post as mafia and is just afk regardless of role. I don't know whether you are posting less because you rolled mafia or because you are trying to reshape your play. My main concern is that most of your time has been spent analyzing me, and yet your response to Celestial, who posted a bunch of reasons for why he thought I was scum, was just a bunch of praise for a long post and a town read. Why weren't you interested in any of the points he actually made? | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote: Also at present: - silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier - Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then. | ||
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