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For example, say I pose the question, throw shade on mderg through the process, but don't do anything with it for the rest of this day or for some time. After time passed, you bring it up and say "hey, this might be a sign of mafia asking questions for the sake of asking questions to appear like an active and engaged player" and then you can put pressure on me that way. And you can wait and see the answer that mderg gives and draw reads from it. As it is, you put me on high alert if I'm Mafia, you give mderg wiggle room if he's Mafia because you're putting pressure on me through the process, and generally messing with the line of questioning.
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On August 02 2016 00:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
For example, say I pose the question, throw shade on mderg through the process, but don't do anything with it for the rest of this day or for some time. After time passed, you bring it up and say "hey, this might be a sign of mafia asking questions for the sake of asking questions to appear like an active and engaged player" and then you can put pressure on me that way. And you can wait and see the answer that mderg gives and draw reads from it. As it is, you put me on high alert if I'm Mafia, you give mderg wiggle room if he's Mafia because you're putting pressure on me through the process, and generally messing with the line of questioning.
Well I promise I won't do that. My post was intended as a joke.
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On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking. I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it. This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy? I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this. However I have huge issues with this bit: Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third. No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean. The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's. I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post?
The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again.
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".
That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.
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On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking. I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it. This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy? I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this. However I have huge issues with this bit: Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third. No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean. The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's. I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post? The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again. btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial. Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody. He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.
He was pretty transparently lazy openly stating that he was only looking at the people voting for him and choosing the worst one.
I know that other people have townread people for similar things to Scott's +1 post. Celestial is one for sure. I'm sure there are others as well. I dunno, the more people push against me for my reads the more entrenched I am in them lol, and they weren't even that strong to begin with.
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On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 02:18 Stutters695 wrote:On August 01 2016 01:01 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 00:56 Stutters695 wrote:On August 01 2016 00:55 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 00:50 Stutters695 wrote:On August 01 2016 00:38 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 00:25 Stutters695 wrote:On July 31 2016 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hey guys, totally reasonable Moosy chipping in here. My totally logical thoughts say that Race Bannon is spamming for the sake of spamming. As a man who employs this technique myself I say it's safe to ignore every post he makes and address him on a later date since he's basically guaranteed to act like a sack of potatoes all of D1. Slight issue is that's totally unreasonable. He was completely capable of producing readable content as both alignments in previous games. This is probably an attempt to shift his meta, although it's almost inconsequential because it is incredibly anti-town. You should read Race Bannon's blog. Page 2 is where it starts to really get good. Can I get a tldr? Gonna lynch him? It is just the LONGEST stream of gibberish that I have ever seen. Celestial is right it looks like Race just got banned for 2 weeks, so a replacement should be on the way. Based on his play so far I think he was more likely to be town. Explain Mafia tends to play a bit more subdued. I think there's a bit more fear of being lynched as mafia than town, and sometimes you feel more obligation to your team as mafia than town. I'm not really convinced Race cares too much either way though, so definitely not a certain read. You've played more than enough games to know that isn't true. You scum dawg? So this is a valid point, Grack's post is very out of order at that point, like what is your point? I agree, Race's spam is most definitely NAI cuz he does same shit even as host lol. So why not just push it further? You caught something but not putting your ass on the line and pushing people. If you leave this just like that it's so bad.
Not a fan of this post. What kind of follow up did you expect from Stutters when he hasn't even posted since then?
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Grack, who is your biggest scumread and why?
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On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking. I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it. This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy? I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this. However I have huge issues with this bit: Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third. No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean. The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's. I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise).
So that's twice you post about my posts but do not say why. Can you elaborate?
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On August 02 2016 02:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Grack, who is your biggest scumread and why?
I don't have any. Right now I'm just trying to narrow down who I want to vote between you/Skynx/J Roc/BtDt. Everyone else I don't want to lynch today.
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On August 02 2016 02:17 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking.
I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it.
This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy?
I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this.
However I have huge issues with this bit:
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No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean.
The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's.
I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post? The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again. btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial. Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody. He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that. He was pretty transparently lazy openly stating that he was only looking at the people voting for him and choosing the worst one. I know that other people have townread people for similar things to Scott's +1 post. Celestial is one for sure. I'm sure there are others as well. I dunno, the more people push against me for my reads the more entrenched I am in them lol, and they weren't even that strong to begin with.
Not sure, if I'd call it transparently lazy. Didn't he say something like there's mafia among those who voted for Race Bannon?
Not sure if otheres did that as well. Celestial did and I didn't like that but his posts are very different from scott's posts.
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On August 02 2016 02:27 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 02:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Grack, who is your biggest scumread and why? I don't have any. Right now I'm just trying to narrow down who I want to vote between you/Skynx/J Roc/BtDt. Everyone else I don't want to lynch today.
So not a single one of us sticks out above another to you?
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On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking. I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it. This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy? I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this. However I have huge issues with this bit: Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third. No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean. The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's. I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post? The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again. btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial. Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody. He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.
Just so you are aware, giving some one a town point is different than townreading the person. I didn't say I townread the guy - It's more of a mental note that we agreed on something, and he's not in my lynch pile for now. You're trying to change my words to fit your agenda.
I know who I am, and I think you're trying to reach to get me mislynched.
Wouldn't Lynch Today
Lunaticman
silentwarrior
-Celestial-
MoosyDoosy
Stutters695
J Roc
Grackaroni
Null:
KelsierSC
Skynx
Rels
Would Lynch:
Mderg
beentheredonethat
I need to get this pot roast started - I'll be back.
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On August 02 2016 02:35 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 02:27 Grackaroni wrote:On August 02 2016 02:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Grack, who is your biggest scumread and why? I don't have any. Right now I'm just trying to narrow down who I want to vote between you/Skynx/J Roc/BtDt. Everyone else I don't want to lynch today. So not a single one of us sticks out above another to you?
Nope. I might have a slight preference for Skynx but my reasoning is too useless to even bother explaining. I've actually looked through filters quite a bit and I'm pretty much just calling it quits. I'm going to see if Rels shows up and see what he has to say.
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Well since it's barely been brought up, we need to decide how we're lunching today. Activity is clearly ass, so are we going to lynch a lurker or someone active. I'm inclined to go with a lurker.
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On August 02 2016 02:38 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking.
I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it.
This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy?
I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this.
However I have huge issues with this bit:
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No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean.
The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's.
I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post? The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again. btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial. Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody. He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that. Just so you are aware, giving some one a town point is different than townreading the person. I didn't say I townread the guy - It's more of a mental note that we agreed on something, and he's not in my lynch pile for now. You're trying to change my words to fit your agenda. I know who I am, and I think you're trying to reach to get me mislynched. Wouldn't Lynch Today Lunaticman silentwarrior -Celestial- MoosyDoosy Stutters695 J Roc Grackaroni Null: KelsierSC Skynx Rels Would Lynch: Mderg beentheredonethat I need to get this pot roast started - I'll be back.
If it's just a mental note, it can stay in your head. The way you posted it makes it look like he stands out as town compared to the rest.
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Scott why is J Roc in your not lynch category?
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On August 01 2016 02:19 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 02:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
Kill Race Bannon before the replacement. Best kill so far. A player that has already stirred so much chaos and made himself unreadable will never be able to fully establish himself as town thus he should be killed asap. Not really. RB's attitude has hardly anything to do with his alignment. His replacement however can turn out to be a very townny or scummy individual, based on which we can decide on a lynch. What you're saying right now is basically a blind lynch.
I get the point of that, agreed. I guess his "real-teamliquid-life" ban confirms that his bullshit was just bullshit and not pretended bullshit.
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On August 01 2016 05:32 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 05:17 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 04:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 00:37 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 00:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Eh, not too fond of policy lynches D1 Hahahahaha Hey man I would be dead 85% of the time if people went for policy lynches D1. Care to elaborate why? Ask the other ppl in this game lol. Normally I'm batshit insane but I'm being the super reasonable Moosy right now. Well I don't really know what to make of that tbh, but it sounds super fishy? I think I had to change a few things about my playstyle here also. I ticked of a lot of the other townies last game because of my excessive posting. So guess I will try to cutback a bit on the posting but I just hope we get some discussions going.
What is this? Activity is most of the time a good indicator for town. So why drop your claimed high activity level? Doesn't make sense especially since you explain yourself like a tryhard here. Are you scum and not able to emulate your town meta?
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On August 01 2016 07:29 scott31337 wrote:
So while I was reading the thread a couple hours ago, I knew RB was town for two reasons:
1. When he got voted on, he kept trolling
2. The votes piled up wayy too quickly
And I was right!
So I'm going to look at who voted for him and when and I think we'll find mafia there.
On August 01 2016 07:30 scott31337 wrote:
KelsierSC Mderg Stutters and BTDT
Good stuff. Me town. Mderg probably town (I'm on page 14 thus far). Stutters no idea, and kelsier sounds fucked up, saying the game is terrible and so on. So Kelsier/Stutters.
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On August 01 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 02:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
Kill Race Bannon before the replacement. Best kill so far. A player that has already stirred so much chaos and made himself unreadable will never be able to fully establish himself as town thus he should be killed asap. So I've read all four filters, and I think you have the best chance of flipping mafia. This is shit reasoning and you know it. And there's nothing else in your filter. So that's where my vote is going for now. What else do people want to discuss?
You're right, shit reasoning, as I said above. Mistakes happen. I like you alot expect you're mistaking me for a scum guy.
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