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/in wassup my broskis no deadgaem this time plx kk <3<3
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On July 18 2016 19:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Hmmmm, do I dare? I'll wait for specifics....and maybe a partial playerlist >_<
Just do it. you can always /out later 
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What kind of role is strongarm? Also if there is no informative role for town in 3rd setup isnt having a gf pointless for scum?
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On July 19 2016 14:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Hopefully koshi won't ruin this game as well
Shhhhhhhh lets not start with that
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Man Koshi is killing TL mafia...
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On July 20 2016 02:59 Lunaticman wrote:
Yeah, I'm off to work all day tomorrow, I thought we would have started by now...
Games usually start at 23:00 GMT work won't be a problem 
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I invite you to drink tea with no sugar Shape.
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Welcome back Lunaticman, you follow Swedish house scene by chance?
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On July 20 2016 19:34 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:29 Skynx wrote:
Welcome back Lunaticman, you follow Swedish house scene by chance? I am uncertain, I listen to a wide array of music but I am unsure of the genre. Is it music like Avicii?
I should've been more specific  I'm a mad fan of Eric Prydz and Jeremy Olander both make progressive house and some techno. Avicii is quite the antithesis but I guess they must sound similar from a total unfamiliar perspective.
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Noooo I can't open this, who's scum?
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emperor sounds scummy without even saying a word.
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On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Jailkeeper protects you from nk but also roleblocks you
gf turns green for cop checks
parity cop checks two persons over two cycles, end of second cycle he recieves "same, different or no-result"
Strongarm makes nk piercing protections
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Point of D1 is not necessarily lynch mafia. Works of mafia in D1 almost always come back to bite them later on. It did in all games I played. But ofc lynch mafia if you find one.
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Nah just relax, its ok to dick around for a while at start of the game. When freedomlanders and maplesyruplanders wake up game will pick up speed.
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I would check presidental mafia and newbie mafia for metas if you're really curious and have some free-time. I got some clients coming in so prolly last post till late night.
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I mean I'd check if I were you*
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On July 20 2016 21:57 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I would check presidental mafia and newbie mafia for metas if you're really curious and have some free-time. I got some clients coming in so prolly last post till late night. ooh buisness baller, eh?
No, I'm doing internship and they barely paid attention to me :/
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On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia?
hahahahahaha
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On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks
I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying.
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On July 20 2016 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. well last game you died
I can figure what went down in QT even tho i can't read it ^^
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On July 20 2016 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:54 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. well last game you died I can figure what went down in QT even tho i can't read it ^^ last game you were trying too hard, so we had to put a end to that! In retrospect, we shoulda killed prpl cause I had a pretty good feeling he was cop, and since I was thinking you would have been dead set on kruppe/ksc in any case.
I never tried to read Kruppe. I don't read Moosy type pokemon. KSC is the only reason I dropped my read on you, one of you were 100% scum and you played better than him
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On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on?
I have my reasons.
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Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum  If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town?
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On July 20 2016 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:10 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on? I have my reasons. oh god the memes
I actually found it hilarious. My sig was getting old
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On July 20 2016 23:26 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:54 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. well last game you died I can figure what went down in QT even tho i can't read it ^^ also this just finally dinged in my head, now that I remember that you're Tureky-blocked lol hmm elaborate scum set-up here, trying to make everyone think that you can't access qt, therefore must not be mafai! 
Man you know better than everyone I can play mafia without QT. It's level of success however is a different story. I also hate it when you make that face 
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On July 20 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:23 Skynx wrote:Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town? A change in behaviour when you have an established meta which has been called is only advantagous to change when you have a new role. This should mean he is either blue or green? (since he was red last game?)
No. It should mean he can be happy with bad townies making stupid lynches but we can't instantly scumread him for that cuz he said he's gona be calm.
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On July 20 2016 23:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information?
What you're gona do in this game then?
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We got got. Funny how you did not spot me being sarcastic earlier tho.
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Ah well, anyone got any alignment indicative stuff so far?
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On July 20 2016 23:49 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:44 Skynx wrote:
We got got. Funny how you did not spot me being sarcastic earlier tho. Are you talking to me? youll have to qoute it because I dont remember.
On July 20 2016 23:19 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:10 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on? I have my reasons. Well even if we did manage to lynch him and he turns up green or blue it would probably lead towards a lynch on you. So I do not know if it is smart making a strong claim like that on a hunch on day one. Unless you know something we dont.
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On July 20 2016 23:52 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote:
Ah well, anyone got any alignment indicative stuff so far? skynx you're better than this blech post overall
???
People are hinting at stuff so they might aswell collect and present them at town like you did no?
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I gues you guys are scumreading me for "activity without actually contributin?" hehehe go ahead plots all being noted.
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On July 21 2016 01:12 prplhz wrote:
up to date but i literally have nothing and i also don't feel like posting
See here, i literally had nothing but felt like posting. Asked maybe if anyone had anything. Koshi you're better than this.
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On July 21 2016 02:24 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:21 Skynx wrote:
I gues you guys are scumreading me for "activity without actually contributin?" hehehe go ahead plots all being noted. This is really unnecessarily defensive. Why do you find the need to defend yourself right now? You were not the main topic of the conversation.
This is unnecessary push. Defending yourself while you're not the main topic of conversation is not alignment indicative.
Also that wasn't a defence.
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On July 21 2016 02:59 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:52 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 02:24 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 02:21 Skynx wrote:
I gues you guys are scumreading me for "activity without actually contributin?" hehehe go ahead plots all being noted. This is really unnecessarily defensive. Why do you find the need to defend yourself right now? You were not the main topic of the conversation. This is unnecessary push. Defending yourself while you're not the main topic of conversation is not alignment indicative. Also that wasn't a defence. How so an unnecessary push? If you're scum it is certainly necessary! Also, all this I think was started from a softpush by koshi, how do you feel about that guy?
He sounded wierd. Koshi usually posts specific stuff from a filter instead of sayin "read his filter" you know. Hmmmm
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I'll seriously pick up this game tomorrow, don't go majority.
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On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread
Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable.
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On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch.
What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet.
Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here.
So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia?
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On July 21 2016 03:37 Palmar wrote:
jesus 20 pages
All super important content make sure to catchup 1 by 1
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No fking way is that legit?
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On July 21 2016 03:44 emperorchampion wrote:only one way to find out
I can't open it...
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On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over.
I didn't even have an argument there. That was an opinion on how and why his scum behavior has been generic thats it, nothingn else.
Now what made you think he's scum?
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On July 21 2016 03:53 Palmar wrote:
Now I assume Skynx is just trolling.
But it'd be 200% more awesome if Erogdan had blocked his youtube and thus saved him from Mr. Astley.
You can make it out which posts I'm trolling and which ones I'm not. Youtube is fine, who's Astley tho?
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On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game.
How is your ratio of identifying Chez or Moosy?
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Kruppe can you at least play normal after d1?
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On July 21 2016 04:48 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:40 Skynx wrote:
Kruppe can you at least play normal after d1? Skynx have you been lurking all day?
Man i can't focus for fucks sake today. The way i play is i just read the game over and over and try to make sense of it. Today i feel like just interacting with people and get feels and reactions instead of just afking cuz im bored.
I said I'll pick up tomorrow, I will.
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Hahaha man this game is fun when you're having fun but I'll prolly hate you guys and call everyone to focus tomorrow.
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I'll also hate myself don't worry.
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I'll stop aswell sorry for today, nn town.
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It's mainly because I bookmark this post and come back to it since I'm gona actually play now.
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Summary of the game: pre-18
*Tea talk and similar banta
*Rels pointing out some simple stuff than is off
*Tumble coming in and sr'ing me and emp for not progressing the game
*Lunatic trying to ask a question for every point being made
*Gracken, Koshi and Palmar comes in and goes back out
*kush and prplhz are very chilled (prolly high)
So Tumble's scumread of emp is main bit of content here. What's wierd about it is that he states he's ready to vote for either of us because we're not trying to progress the game and post without content. While I acknowledge that I'm curious why he just tunnels emperor from that point on and ignores me (he also pointed out I was being scummy with one post but never followed up).
Lunatic seems way too tryhard. Sometimes I get a feeling his tone is pure fake or forced. His playstyle of trying to ask questions about absolutely everything seems to follow this pattern aswell. He also pointed out that he makes the mistake of talking too much when he's scum. Now all this is beyond wifom and doesn't lead to any conclusions but thats just the way I feel about his posts.
Nothing incredibly interesting otherwise.
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So p19 it kicks off with Tumble case.
While it's an ok case, there is nothing new in it. Tumble basically just repeats and compiles what he's found scummy about emperor over span of past few pages. Main point being posting for sake of posting.
On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread
This however is some giveaway. Now his push turns into a meta push. I mean if you feel like you made enough convincing in your case why write this? There are lot of players who are unfamiliar with emp playstyle and I don't actually agree he fits his scum meta so far.
Actually I'm sure Koshi can figure out why emperor is not scum so far cuz we discussed this deeply in coach chat.
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Anyway P8-19 there is scumwork by a high chance. Even if not, there is no way scum ignores what happens there and reacts to it.
Not sure if Tumble v emperor is t v t yet. Lunatics following of their incident is more interesting imo:
On July 21 2016 03:52 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I didn't even have an argument there. That was an opinion on how and why his scum behavior has been generic thats it, nothingn else. Now what made you think he's scum? Because you specified he has polarised his playstyle which indicitated he is trying "to hard" from his previous playstyles... This is purely a meta read which I agree with if it is true.
The whole discussion here is weak. I feel like he was trying to vote for emperor for some time but can't find a way of jumping on the train without a reason. Why do it here tho, then defend your vote with "and votes generate friction, which generates more content". Another forced tone imo.
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I don't feel like that argument is getting anywhere tho. Tumble/emperor are not right lynches today. Lunatic can be noob town, too wifom to be scum doesn't really defend him either but I think I will wait on him doing more work. If he continues his style he surely will slip at some point anyway.
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Grack push on kush is weak too. Kush is generic so far, not a good D1 lynch anyway.
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On July 21 2016 11:30 sicklucker wrote:
how long till deadline? time to spam the thread to get my 10 posts
I was wondering when you'd show up.
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And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case
Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble
Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields
Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler
Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.
Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective
Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.
Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:
Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 01:18 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff? Read skynx his filter. I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC. I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it. Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4sta
This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.
AlsoOn July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year.
how you so sure about kush meta and tone then?
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On July 21 2016 20:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game. Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up. I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh. At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning. I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town. I don't like this post. DC I need you to explain yourself on two things. 1- You say "Town should be trying to solve the game". Now you say it's hard to solve the game at the time of this post because "some of the players haven't even posted yet". BUT the players Tumble are talking about have posted quite a lot already. So this doesn't apply ? What is the motivation that pushed you making this post ? Why do you disagree with Tumble here ? 2 - Why do you don't scumlean either of those guys " yet" ? Cause it seems like yuo plan on scumleaning them later, which doesn't make sense, if they are scummy you should scumlean them now ?
You know what nice find but not for reasons you stated.
So what is the actual point of this post? Tumble and emp were engaging on the subject of "post to solve the game". The way I'd post about this if I felt like it is I'd either analyse Tumble/emperor's posts in that pow and comment on scum/town lean of those posts or question Tumble what specific stuff made him prompt that read.
No one needs a lecture on how to play D1. The 1st and 2nd paragraph doesn't serve any purpose in this game if you don't link it to eventualities happening right then in the game. Like you try to sound like you're saying something interesting and aim at people quoting it "i like this post" and stuff on purpose. What does that entire post achieve?
Good find Rels, I must have passed by it. You lose couple of points there DCW.
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On July 21 2016 21:03 Lunaticman wrote:
Another one of my current lists:
100% Green Town
4) Lunaticman
Town read so far:
3) Skynx
5) emperorchampion
2) DCWasabi
10) Tumblewood
6) Rels
8) Gracaroni
Nullread:
11) Kruppe the eel
9) nnn_thekushmountains
1) Prplhz
Scummy:
13) Palmar
7) sicklucker
12) Koshi
I am extremly happy with the way the game has progressed, there is a lot of content to use for day 2.
What's the difference between Palmar and kush? They played almost exactly the same so far and you questioned both of their reads being vague/trolly/lazy. They should have been same category for you.
Also why is Grack town?
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On July 21 2016 04:37 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:32 Palmar wrote:On July 21 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.
Could it be possible both of them are scum?
It feels like such a rookie misstake to make. I admit, am rookie. I didnt know this, it might change my opinion in your actions so far.
Well for instance, Palmar has most games (some 90-ish?) under his belt here. Does that change your opinions?
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So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?
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On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.
Well, you are way too tunneled on one idea then. emperor was engaging nicely at the time, under some pressure but he has certainly seen worse. He knows how to act in high pressure situations.
If palmar is his teammate, he's under no pressure to defend him either.
If palmar is town, he's just scumreading you for whatever reason cuz he's trolling.
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Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?
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On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?
There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now
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On July 21 2016 22:06 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp? It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. Well, you are way too tunneled on one idea then. emperor was engaging nicely at the time, under some pressure but he has certainly seen worse. He knows how to act in high pressure situations. If palmar is his teammate, he's under no pressure to defend him either. If palmar is town, he's just scumreading you for whatever reason cuz he's trolling. I'm sorry if I don't take your word for it. Palmer still made some crucial mistakes and nothing you just said has convinced me otherwise. I
Well, good luck on your Palmar lynch.
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Lunatic is crossing meh towny new guy border to scum for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.
Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.
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On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.
His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point.
My only concern is he's prolly town.
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On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes.
On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over.
On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy.
These two specifically imo makes him scummy.
1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor.
2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor?
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On July 21 2016 22:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I actually demand to know what you are referencing "his style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts" why don't you enlighten me? And I think I have a pretty good handle on the game atm, I'll follow my instinct until I am proven wrong. I am actually quite easy to convince if you bring out good arguments. I have not done a single action without justifying it, compared to many of the other players. And also, everyone gets lynched at some point. It is only a matter on how you go out that you can choose.
There you go:
On July 20 2016 23:05 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:54 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:31 Grackaroni wrote:On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia? A wild Palmar appears. I'm in the game, right? is this a famous palmar mafia game?? Yes, how can you not know if you are in the game?
On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on?
On July 20 2016 23:38 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:32 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 23:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:23 Skynx wrote:Man Koshi might use his new behaviour to his advantage if he's scum If he's not calling anyone bad how we gona know he's town? A change in behaviour when you have an established meta which has been called is only advantagous to change when you have a new role. This should mean he is either blue or green? (since he was red last game?) No. It should mean he can be happy with bad townies making stupid lynches but we can't instantly scumread him for that cuz he said he's gona be calm. I still think the change in behaviour indicates he is a townie for now.
On July 21 2016 03:52 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. I didn't even have an argument there. That was an opinion on how and why his scum behavior has been generic thats it, nothingn else. Now what made you think he's scum? Because you specified he has polarised his playstyle which indicitated he is trying "to hard" from his previous playstyles... This is purely a meta read which I agree with if it is true.
Especially the last one. You are ready to blindly follow my meta statement on emperor to conclude he is scum and if that is wrong I must be mafia?
Furthermore, why are you so ready on reading Palmar as mafia when you are so ready to jump on any meta statemet?
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On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family? No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is? There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me.
It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote.
The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own.
Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches.
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Man finally someone gets what I'm saying ty haze
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On July 21 2016 23:03 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:[quote] There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing. It also an effective way to trap people. Example: I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways. What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on? HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking. etc. Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons. Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me. It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote. The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own. Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches. Kruppe does wonder, dear Skynx, what has changed from poor Kruppe's play compared to last time we met that you would point a (hopefully blunt) finger at Kruppe?
Nothing my dear. You do nothing towny or scummy. You are intentionally being unreadible, an asset that does not benefit town in any way.
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Too many at once.
To answer most at once; Lunatic is probably town and his lynch will get us nowhere if flipped green. I find that fair but he did some scummy things from almost any perspective which I've explained over course of last 5 or so pages.
Koshi: 7 pages of filter doesn't make anyone town necessarily. rayn prolly had a 15 page filter in a 7 player game on D2, he was gf.
However all that being said I'm letting Lunatic case sit for a while until others state their opinions. I'm also beyond lost.
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On July 21 2016 23:07 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:05 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:03 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:54 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:48 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
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Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow. 7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do? If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off. His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point. My only concern is he's prolly town. I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia. Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad. This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:
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Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over. On July 21 2016 04:13 Lunaticman wrote:
I see Palmer voted for me without even giving a reason, that is super scummy. These two specifically imo makes him scummy. 1st one he doesn't have his own reasoning for his vote, makes it a safe play. Do you see the " oh I vote emp cuz of your point but if he's green than you are scum" ? That's like super bad, I also questioned someone who said something similar last game. I think it was emperor. 2nd one not exactly this quote but the overall phonomenon of reacting to Palmar vote. Ok I see how he scumreads him cuz of no reasoning but thats exactly what he did with vote on emperor? The difference is I did the first vote in the game, and I said it was to generate content. I just don't see why it is beyond you. Someone has to put down the first vote and start finding a lynch target. I really had no intention to lynch EC, I just wanted to see where that got us. The response however by Palmer in my mind is to scummy to let go. But by all means if you find someone better to lynch please persuade me. It didn't generate any content. emperor felt no pressure from your vote. The fact that YOU try to reason your vote with "to generate content" is so scummy on its own. Kruppe, sicklucker and you are better lynches. Kruppe does wonder, dear Skynx, what has changed from poor Kruppe's play compared to last time we met that you would point a (hopefully blunt) finger at Kruppe? Nothing my dear. You do nothing towny or scummy. You are intentionally being unreadible, an asset that does not benefit town in any way. Kruppe does wonder, possible friend; are you discontent with the color of your envelope? Is Skynx not curious as to its meaning? Is the mystery not riveting!?
Mystery is absolutely thrilling. You're good town cuz you correctly identified me town. However I'd be thrilled if you explain us why some people got no enveloppes and why red enveloppes went to those targets
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On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, TumbleTotal Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack FieldsTown leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change. Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far. Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now. kush is kush, similar to palmar. Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read. Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really. Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm sl is sl Points on Lunatic explained eariler Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it. Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him: On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 01:18 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff? Read skynx his filter. I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC. I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it. Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4staThis contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum? Then you turn to tone based read. Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf. I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today. Also On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year. how you so sure about kush meta and tone then? Where did I say I was lurking? Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push. I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did.
On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes.
This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems.
On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then.
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On July 21 2016 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:13 Skynx wrote:
Too many at once.
To answer most at once; Lunatic is probably town and his lynch will get us nowhere if flipped green. I find that fair but he did some scummy things from almost any perspective which I've explained over course of last 5 or so pages.
Koshi: 7 pages of filter doesn't make anyone town necessarily. rayn prolly had a 15 page filter in a 7 player game on D2, he was gf.
However all that being said I'm letting Lunatic case sit for a while until others state their opinions. I'm also beyond lost.
As a general rule I'd recommend not voting for people who are probably town.
I adressed it earlier, Lunatic will give it away if he's scum one way or another. Leaving him for later I'm fine with but that means we need to find a better lynch target. While 7 pages of filter is nice, this whole conversation took us like 5 pages and we are losing focus. So leaving him alive is not productive from my pow, especially considering he's still tunneling Palmar.
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On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, TumbleTotal Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack FieldsTown leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change. Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far. Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now. kush is kush, similar to palmar. Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read. Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really. Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm sl is sl Points on Lunatic explained eariler Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it. Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him: On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 01:18 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff? Read skynx his filter. I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC. I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it. Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4staThis contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum? Then you turn to tone based read. Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf. I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today. Also On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year. how you so sure about kush meta and tone then? Where did I say I was lurking? Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push. I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did. On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes. This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems. On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then. I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread.
I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush?
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On July 21 2016 23:31 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:17 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:13 Skynx wrote:
Too many at once.
To answer most at once; Lunatic is probably town and his lynch will get us nowhere if flipped green. I find that fair but he did some scummy things from almost any perspective which I've explained over course of last 5 or so pages.
Koshi: 7 pages of filter doesn't make anyone town necessarily. rayn prolly had a 15 page filter in a 7 player game on D2, he was gf.
However all that being said I'm letting Lunatic case sit for a while until others state their opinions. I'm also beyond lost.
As a general rule I'd recommend not voting for people who are probably town. I adressed it earlier, Lunatic will give it away if he's scum one way or another. Leaving him for later I'm fine with but that means we need to find a better lynch target. While 7 pages of filter is nice, this whole conversation took us like 5 pages and we are losing focus. So leaving him alive is not productive from my pow, especially considering he's still tunneling Palmar. Only because you keep pestering me with questions.
That goes both ways. Like right now.
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On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, TumbleTotal Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack FieldsTown leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change. Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far. Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now. kush is kush, similar to palmar. Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read. Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really. Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm sl is sl Points on Lunatic explained eariler Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:
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Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC.
Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target.
I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it. Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him: On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 01:18 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff? Read skynx his filter. I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC. I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it. Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4staThis contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum? Then you turn to tone based read. Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf. I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today. Also On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year. how you so sure about kush meta and tone then? Where did I say I was lurking? Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push. I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did. On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes. This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems. On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then. I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread. I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush? Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good.
I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude.
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On July 21 2016 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, TumbleTotal Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack FieldsTown leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change. Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far. Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now. kush is kush, similar to palmar. Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read. Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really. Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm sl is sl Points on Lunatic explained eariler Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs. On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:
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No I still think you are town, but I think they made good arguments based on your previous games. Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it. Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him: On July 21 2016 02:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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I think EC made a townie point about how skynx kept bringing up the pregame qt link. So townread on EC.
I do not think that point was valid, because skynx only brought it up once, and the rest of the time was in response to other people talking about it.
Skynx actually gets a tone-based townread for his chilled out, comfortable swagger. Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town. On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today. ##Vote: Kushm4staThis contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum? Then you turn to tone based read. Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf. I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today. Also On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year. how you so sure about kush meta and tone then? Where did I say I was lurking? Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push. I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did. On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes. This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems. On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then. I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread. I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush? Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good. I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude. Can you explain the kruppe read? He seems unreadable.
That's it, he's unreadable.
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Noooooooooo I lost my medic icon when did i hit 4k
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Well, game is actually very hard. Grack responded well to my scumlran on him. Lunatic's gona flip town aint he?
Not sure if i want a Rels lynch.
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Well, we can lynch one of Palmar/haze i guess?
Why did you guys claim anyway?
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On July 22 2016 03:29 Palmar wrote:thank you, I was about to start questioning if I had been transferred to some alternative reality where humor doesn't exist. Yo people, when the French-Canadian knows what's up and you don't, you need to take a hard look at your life.
Man I'm infected, I lost all sense of direction during midday.
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Fkin hell i always forget about DC, I want to lynch him.
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Not lynching: Koshi, haze, Rels, kush, emperor, Lunatic
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On July 22 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
before I say that though I guess I should read DC's filter
@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush?
I have my reasons.
+ Show Spoiler +jk, I feel like kush has been ok and I liked some of the stuff rels pointed out in his second activity period.
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On July 22 2016 04:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:31 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
before I say that though I guess I should read DC's filter
@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush? I have my reasons. + Show Spoiler +jk, I feel like kush has been ok and I liked some of the stuff rels pointed out in his second activity period. Give me the reasons. Why are they more likely town over mafia?
Spoiler
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I'm so lost only names i remember are DC and Kruppe.
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Lol i have 2 votes on me by town that townread me when did that happen
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On July 22 2016 05:13 emperorchampion wrote:
I think reading over the last bit that DCW is definietly an OK lynch, but I'll feel pretty bad if he's town and just busy.
Reading through his filter, as a few people have pointed out, most of his posts feel like free town point posts and not too much else.
Thats the case with everyone.
That one post he made triggered me, i have a feeling thats it. We can always go for RNG.
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Moving to Kruppe. Koshi case is nice, townies need to stick together.
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On July 22 2016 05:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 05:22 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 05:19 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:12 Rels wrote:
prp is a OK lynch too. His main contribution this game was getting people to vote me for no reason. Alone voting "just to see what happens" is not scummy, but since he's done almost nothing else he could be scum.
His first half of his filter is useless.
His second half is just attacking lunatic but not scumreading him.
In between he votes me and stays on me to see what happens.
Not impossible he's a bad town. Still an alright lynch. This is a very lazy and cheap summarize of somebody his filter. Town is nothing with this. prplhz is insane lynchbait in every game. He had a couple good posts this game so I don't see why you would want to lynch him over others. Wrong. He was not "insane lynchbait" last game. And I remember someone last game saying he was more useless as scum than as town too. The guy played 50 games on this site and got lynched in 45. Who the fuck cares what happened in your last game. I don't even care about prplhz his alignment atm. I care about the fact that was another throwaway read you gave. Not a single read you have given this game had anything resembling thought process in it. It's all cheap and generic. 100% ignored. You are most likely mafia or can't be worked with.
Pretty sure town will either lynch a townread of mine or a null read anyway. It's incredible. I am gone for 30 hours. It's useless.
Pls don't do this
I'm so tired btw I'm gona go bed with Kruppe vote. Don't have anything better at this point.
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You are all retards for switching to kush.
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sicklucker you have no right to afk Kruppe now because he was exactly the same 12 hours ago and you switched votes without cause.
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On July 22 2016 20:25 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 20:24 Skynx wrote:
You are all retards for switching to kush. Such an easy opinion. You believe Kruppe's truths to be a lie, then?
I don't give a flying fuck about Kruppe's truths. Kruppe was the right lynch. You did not earn any credit to survive that shitty D1. Bad town is bad.
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On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not
kush was a valuable asset. you see now what we have to deal with?
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None of Krupp's actions made sense. He scumread Lunatic after I dropped my case. He scumread me for agreeing to vote for him. He claimed out of panic. He didn't post 1 thing that relatively made sense.
He did everything to be not townread, only comparably ok lynch was DCW.
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On July 22 2016 20:32 Race Bannon wrote:
This is a public service announcement, reminding you that nobody here is retarded. Thank you, and have a wonderful day 2.
Sorry. I take it back. I love everyone here.
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On July 22 2016 20:29 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 20:28 prplhz wrote:On July 22 2016 20:27 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 20:26 prplhz wrote:On July 22 2016 20:25 Skynx wrote:
sicklucker you have no right to afk Kruppe now because he was exactly the same 12 hours ago and you switched votes without cause. he rescinded his blue claim though so that's sort of different from 12 hours ago Kruppe has no recollection of doing this. Kruppe is merely challenging those who would point from the shadows. people saw you claim and now you're denying that you claimed that's rescinding a blue claim Kruppe denies he claimed specifics.
On July 22 2016 05:54 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe has decided. The wolves are not backing out. The friends are too shaken by the mysteries surrounding Kruppe.
Kruppe is an adept in truth.
On July 22 2016 05:54 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! The truth is out. I wished it were to remain a secret.
This is claiming whatever it is. It is also an auto-lynch on you today.
Thank you guys for wasting a lynch.
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On July 22 2016 20:35 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 20:33 Skynx wrote:
None of Krupp's actions made sense. He scumread Lunatic after I dropped my case. He scumread me for agreeing to vote for him. He claimed out of panic. He didn't post 1 thing that relatively made sense.
He did everything to be not townread, only comparably ok lynch was DCW. Kruppe did not scumread Lunatic. Is everyone blind?
On July 22 2016 01:58 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Oh and Lunaticman receives a red envelope!
Goodbye.
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I believe I found 2/3 but its gona take a hell of a case.
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One of them is Koshi. Second I need to focus more on.
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On July 22 2016 21:13 prplhz wrote:
koshi isn't scum he wouldn't take jabs at palmar like that on d1 and then kill him n1
he's also been the most productive player so far
thats wifom at best you know that.
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You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them.
His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.
His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter.
This is his opinion on kush, the only one.
On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face.
Then grack starts the train.
On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible.
On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta
He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched.
On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town?
He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never.
On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc
There are also other stuff.
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On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not
What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok.
Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah.
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On July 22 2016 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:
I think maybe Skynx and Rels should be the lynches on the table right now. Skynx I thought was very town, but it seems like a lot of people had their doubts about him, so I will certainly reconsider as well.
Seems like there is probably 1 scum in Skynx/Koshi atm?
Yes.
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On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me. I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e. I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made. I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush.
That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi.
I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it.
Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates.
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On July 22 2016 23:20 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok. Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah. Mayhaps Kruppe did not intend to save Tumblewood.
This essentially means you have to provide solid evidence on why Tumble is mafia or you're claim is proven fake.
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I refuse to believe you are playing bad. Playing bad is not same as having bad reads. You can have bad reads but you had nothing on kush and still went for it.
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On July 22 2016 23:28 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:26 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 23:20 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
???? this is standard stuff relax 1 for 1 trades are awesome . lynching power roles day one is not What do you mean by 1 for 1? Claims are given way too much respect I don't like it, emperor escaped a lynch in onegu game due to vet claim. Fake claims do happen. Tumble is not a good target for JK, he only targetted emperor and rels all game, both defended pretty ok. Day 1 went perfect for mafia if thats what you mean yeah. Mayhaps Kruppe did not intend to save Tumblewood. This essentially means you have to provide solid evidence on why Tumble is mafia or you're claim is proven fake. Instead of doing this, Kruppe will relax and enjoy some pastries! Friendly eyes are now focused on you, Skynx. Perform!
You are permenantly ignored from now on.
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Lynch me and lynch Koshi next if you want guys. I don't want to play this game.
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Grack/Koshi + 1. Prolly SL, Lunatic if he's playing very well.
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On July 22 2016 23:33 emperorchampion wrote:
what is this shit from both of you? It's either tvt or svs for sure.
you think this is svs? really?
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On July 22 2016 23:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:29 Skynx wrote:
I refuse to believe you are playing bad. Playing bad is not same as having bad reads. You can have bad reads but you had nothing on kush and still went for it. Hmm. I think I produced lists in which Kush had in them. I did say that Kush shouldn't be looked at till he was proven wrong or showed face. But I didn't have an other option that moment. Rels was there and I didn't have the balls to go for him. All other people looked town to me. Also. About "refusing" to believing I was "bad". That's just really silly. I think people in the game knew how I ended up on Kush. It wasn't opportunistic scum at all. I made enough posts to see how my thought process was and what happened. Your push on me is based on something very flimpsy. Adding extra factors as "not townreading you for making a case on you" is really cool and all. But it wont fly as town will see right through it. But keep up the push on me. You are weakening the strong position you worked yourself in during D1.
Tumble, haze and few others were ready to go for Rels. You didn't had balls cuz he was there and go for afk kush?
Well guess now I have balls to go all-in on you.
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You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town.
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I'm all-in because town will never lynch you without me flipping green. We are always tvs.
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And if I'm wrong which means you, Kruppe and lot are town than you guys don't deserve win anyway.
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I was gona make a desperate case on you but cba. This is the best way. Decide between me and Koshi folks.
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Think about it this way. Palmar and kush are two incredibly good analytical players. They are both eliminated and some people have no problem with this.
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On July 23 2016 03:44 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 20:33 Skynx wrote:
None of Krupp's actions made sense. He scumread Lunatic after I dropped my case. He scumread me for agreeing to vote for him. He claimed out of panic. He didn't post 1 thing that relatively made sense.
He did everything to be not townread, only comparably ok lynch was DCW. This is nonsense. You dropping your scum read on Lunatic does not make Kruppe scum. He was suspicious of you pushing him as a meta lynch when you had played with him earlier. The only weird thing is that he is not suspicious of Koshi who did exactly the same.
This is not nonesense. It came to a point of pointless arguing and the towniness of Lunatic was universally agreed and i dropped my case. Then Kruppe came in and gave a red enveloppe. Don't try to twist words.
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On July 23 2016 03:47 Grackaroni wrote:
And also claiming out of panic? How is that strange he was going to be the lynch.
Nice contribution bud
I would read your every post and find 10 things to trashtalk in every single one of them aswell if i gave two fucks. Anything you wanna add to the conversation?
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On July 23 2016 04:15 Tumblewood wrote:
partner is within grack/sl/sknyx(?)/ec(?)/really long shot prplhz
everyone else is more or less confirmed town in my mind
You got this.
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On July 23 2016 04:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me. I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e. I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made. I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush. That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi. I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it. Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates. This seems very hasty. Having kush and palmar as town is really no town credit at all, since they were both at least somewhat ambiguous. More leans towards TMI for me. Good post. Touting your play from day 1 due to townreads on Kush/Palmar is crap. You were fine with lynching Palmar, and you didn't offer a stunning defense of Kushm4sta either. You aren't getting any credit for this. Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Well, we can lynch one of Palmar/haze i guess?
Why did you guys claim anyway? Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:31 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
before I say that though I guess I should read DC's filter
@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush? I have my reasons. + Show Spoiler +jk, I feel like kush has been ok and I liked some of the stuff rels pointed out in his second activity period.
Cuz they claimed. It was a joke. You are trying way too hard to scumread me.
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On July 23 2016 04:32 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:21 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:15 Tumblewood wrote:
partner is within grack/sl/sknyx(?)/ec(?)/really long shot prplhz
everyone else is more or less confirmed town in my mind You got this. what do you mean by this
Koshi/Grack/SL
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On July 23 2016 04:45 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:26 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me. I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e. I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made. I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush. That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi. I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it. Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates. This seems very hasty. Having kush and palmar as town is really no town credit at all, since they were both at least somewhat ambiguous. More leans towards TMI for me. Good post. Touting your play from day 1 due to townreads on Kush/Palmar is crap. You were fine with lynching Palmar, and you didn't offer a stunning defense of Kushm4sta either. You aren't getting any credit for this. On July 22 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Well, we can lynch one of Palmar/haze i guess?
Why did you guys claim anyway? On July 22 2016 04:31 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
before I say that though I guess I should read DC's filter
@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush? I have my reasons. + Show Spoiler +jk, I feel like kush has been ok and I liked some of the stuff rels pointed out in his second activity period. Cuz they claimed. It was a joke. You are trying way too hard to scumread me.
I mean they were not serious, not my intention. When two people cc eachother you find it natural to lynch one of them.
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On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town?
Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi......
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Lynch me or Koshi. Not anyone else.
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On July 23 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town? Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi...... For the reason I just said. You're lynching him for lynching Kush without reason instead of Rels. But why is that scummy if Rels is town?
No he swapped from Kruppe to kush. Rels wasn't involved at all. He said he was scared to vote Rels. Thats why Tumble's point is interesting.
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On July 23 2016 05:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:02 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town? Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi...... For the reason I just said. You're lynching him for lynching Kush without reason instead of Rels. But why is that scummy if Rels is town? No he swapped from Kruppe to kush. Rels wasn't involved at all. He said he was scared to vote Rels. Thats why Tumble's point is interesting. Are you now walking back your town read of Rels?
It's impossible to talk to you. Where the fuck did you draw that from what I wrote please tell me.
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On July 23 2016 05:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:06 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 05:04 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 05:02 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town? Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi...... For the reason I just said. You're lynching him for lynching Kush without reason instead of Rels. But why is that scummy if Rels is town? No he swapped from Kruppe to kush. Rels wasn't involved at all. He said he was scared to vote Rels. Thats why Tumble's point is interesting. Are you now walking back your town read of Rels? It's impossible to talk to you. Where the fuck did you draw that from what I wrote please tell me. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:09 Tumblewood wrote:guys I found rels's partner this guy On July 21 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
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how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read
you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.
??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels. On July 22 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:19 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:page 8 townread: On July 12 2016 15:36 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe welcomes EmperorChampion, a true friend of Kruppe, to Kruppe's table. Sit, friend, and marvel in the sweetness, and sweet it is indeed, of Kruppe's friendship. next post. page 9 townread: On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,
I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.
Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.
DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.
[green]prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.
For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views? Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. next post. page 13 update on read: On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?
Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn! next post. page 22 scumread: On July 13 2016 22:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Alas, wisdom is obscured to those with (mayhaps feigned?) ignorant eyes.
Words are spoken of the traitor Snickers. One of many words yet now shrouded in silence. Kruppe admits to the peculiarity of such a phenomenon, a personality switched, a mouth stitched. Kruppe begs of thee, Snickers —if you are a true friend of Kruppe's—, sing loud and true!
Yet in the shadows sits KelsierSC, once prodded by friend Vivax's insight, still a convenient bystander. Kruppe asks of you —reader—, who may just be a true friend of Kruppe, do you consider Kelsier to be a friend? Kruppe raises his eyebrow with much vehemency! next post, page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 05:59 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe is somewhat conflicted, dear friends. It seems that Snickers simply stormed off in a fit of anger! How very uncharacteristic, indeed. When faced with peril, should we not show our true colors and shine bright? Mayhaps Snickers is a traitor in truth after all.
Yet, Kruppe's infinite wisdom prevails! Kelsier is not a true friend, but a traitor among us! It has been seen by bard Vivax before, but Kelsier has slipped through the myriad of conversations. Kelsier's display of opinion was the first impression —the most important of impression's, Kruppe would argue— given to us by undear Kelsier, and it has stayed that way. Our beloved bard had even spoken true of Kelsier's most interesting view; it was characterized by inconsistency! Alas, it is true that Kelsier could still be a friend after all. But, with finger both brazenly raised and wagging, Kruppe would argue that Kelsier has since not contributed his opinion at all! Most interesting, as this seemed to be an utmost priority at the very start!
Kruppe —with heavy heart, as your truest friend Kruppe is not one to resort to violence— will temporarily put down his left pastry (though the right pastry is still firmly grasped) to point a finger at Kelsier. next post page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 06:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Though if Snickers does not show up for a most rousing of conversation, then Kruppe will not oppose the ousting of Snickers.
Alas, at is stands your dearest friend Kruppe has some important business to attend to. Your most interesting conversations will certainly be missed! Though Kruppe is sure he will hear of them. Those are all consecutive posts. Well constructed and easy to read. This game he is doing nothing of that. The only read post he gave was the last one. Which he made to get people of his back. The envelope post was terrible vague. It even appears the red envelopes were his townreads and the blue ones were scumreads. How the fuck? That is the opposite as his previous game because there even though he roleplayed his reads were clear. This game he is hiding behind the roleplaying to minimize giving out reads. He isn't a lock mafia. But if we want to lynch a guy who has given town nothing, plays under his capabilities and plays meta different than his last town game. Kruppe is always the lynch. OK. I see your point. DC is still a better lynch No he isn't at all. Ok. You decided to be completely useless this game. Ignored for the rest of the game. Will push your lynch when possible. Insane how you haven't said anything remotely decent this game. Something I can actually use to read somebody. all d1 Koshi was yelling at rels for being bad and keeping him as his second scumread. when rels was the lynch, Koshi was sitting on kruppe and crying out "a trollplayer isn't being helpful! lynch!" the association is so obvious... Koshi is "fine with lynching rels" but instead chooses to save him. scumteam is for sure rels/koshi/an inactive (sl? maybe) I would be totally fine with afk-voting the next two days and coming back when there are real decisions to make Is this not the point you were referencing? Tumble is arguing that Koshi voted Kush to save his scum buddy, Rels. [/b]
Ah I ser now sry for tone. I'm not sure about that, I don't have an explanation of motive behind Koshi's vote. All i know is that way of just "ok I guess kush might be scum w/e" vote is impossible for Koshi to cast. Every itch of his senses would be fighting analyse the candidates to find the best possible lynch in that scenario and kush wasn't the one.
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I ll be back few hours be4 eod.
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Maybe not actually, I didn't read a lot but Koshi is maf so.
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I'm here. I guess Koshi or me are not getting lynched so I have to read 200 posts.
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Any chance we lynch Lunatic?
Rels/Tumble is tvt to me.
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On July 24 2016 05:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 05:48 Skynx wrote:
Any chance we lynch Lunatic?
Rels/Tumble is tvt to me. Why?
Which one why?
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On July 24 2016 05:51 Kruppe the Eel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 05:51 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 05:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 05:48 Skynx wrote:
Any chance we lynch Lunatic?
Rels/Tumble is tvt to me. Why? Which one why? Both. Who do you want to lynch? Who are your 3 scum?
I haven't seen a decisive argument against Tumble or rels in last 5 pages. I don't even know why he hsa 4 votes.
Koshi is unchanged godfather for me.
Lunatic changes his mind like way too often since eod1. He was ok wit Kruppe lynch, he changed kush, he also scumread rels, he was ok with Koshi being scum when i called it, he then scumread and voted Tumble, then DCW, now I dunno who. He is trying to lynch someone without a cause. This has been the case since very early on in the game. I did point this out then everyone told me he's town. He doesn't care who's getting lynched. He just scumreads people cuz whatever.
If these two are mafia for real it changes dynamics a bit and i have to dig deep for 3rd but one step at a time.
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On July 24 2016 05:57 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 05:51 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 05:51 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 05:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 05:48 Skynx wrote:
Any chance we lynch Lunatic?
Rels/Tumble is tvt to me. Why? Which one why? Both. Who do you want to lynch? Who are your 3 scum? I haven't seen a decisive argument against Tumble or rels in last 5 pages. I don't even know why he hsa 4 votes. Koshi is unchanged godfather for me. Lunatic changes his mind like way too often since eod1. He was ok wit Kruppe lynch, he changed kush, he also scumread rels, he was ok with Koshi being scum when i called it, he then scumread and voted Tumble, then DCW, now I dunno who. He is trying to lynch someone without a cause. This has been the case since very early on in the game. I did point this out then everyone told me he's town. He doesn't care who's getting lynched. He just scumreads people cuz whatever. If these two are mafia for real it changes dynamics a bit and i have to dig deep for 3rd but one step at a time.
On July 24 2016 05:56 Lunaticman wrote:
Town needs to find a mafia from this list:
Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz
and now this. He has officially scumread 9 people seriously.
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On July 24 2016 06:00 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 05:57 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 05:51 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 05:51 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 05:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 24 2016 05:48 Skynx wrote:
Any chance we lynch Lunatic?
Rels/Tumble is tvt to me. Why? Which one why? Both. Who do you want to lynch? Who are your 3 scum? I haven't seen a decisive argument against Tumble or rels in last 5 pages. I don't even know why he hsa 4 votes. Koshi is unchanged godfather for me. Lunatic changes his mind like way too often since eod1. He was ok wit Kruppe lynch, he changed kush, he also scumread rels, he was ok with Koshi being scum when i called it, he then scumread and voted Tumble, then DCW, now I dunno who. He is trying to lynch someone without a cause. This has been the case since very early on in the game. I did point this out then everyone told me he's town. He doesn't care who's getting lynched. He just scumreads people cuz whatever. If these two are mafia for real it changes dynamics a bit and i have to dig deep for 3rd but one step at a time. I explained it, I set a trap. my actions basically confirmed tumble is town.
On July 24 2016 01:08 Lunaticman wrote:
Well if tumble was town, it would have been easy for the mafia to auto lynch him among the remaining votes. So that intself speaks a lot for tumble.
With this?
You realise last vote for Tumble if flip green is an auto lynch tomorrow? Thats proving nothing.
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On July 24 2016 06:04 Lunaticman wrote:
Is this a possible configuration:
Skynx/Grac/Koshi?
He's not even trying to make sense with any of his reads sl. It's not adjusting or whatever.
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I literally went 1 on 1 against Koshi. I scumread Grac when no one was and still scumread him D2.
You say I'm mafia with them. Yeah alright.
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I'm lynching one of Koshi or Luna today. Tell me why they are town and try to convince yourself to what you're saying.
13 pages of filter is not a parameter in argument, google raynpelikoneet.
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Doesn't mean he's town. Why is he town?
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On July 24 2016 06:11 Grackaroni wrote:
We are absolutely not lynching Koshi today.
You're not giving me any reasoning for anything at all on this.
Like quote some shit and say this is a good post mafia would never do this.
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On July 24 2016 06:13 sicklucker wrote:
grac what troubles me is your side of the game is doing nothing here. but im really happy that the game is divided into two camps that should mean the mafia will be easy to pick off
You're pretty much the same no homo
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On July 24 2016 06:14 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:10 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2016 05:53 Lunaticman wrote:
The only good that came out of this basically Tumble should be considered town atm, since I dont think the mafia would buss their own because they had a great day 1.
That is at least 4 town now. If we had another blue role claim now might actually help town immensely. I JUST FUCKING SAID THAT NOTHING IS PROVEN. TUMBLE CAN EASILY BE MAFIA. PLEASE FOR FUCK SAKE. WHEN IT IS D5 PLEASE PLEASE DON'T BE DENSE. The reason for it is because I felt like the mafia used me as a wagon for their intent on day 1, I wanted to continue and see if the same thing would happen today. And lo and behold everyone went with my wagon which I never intended to go through with. If the town doesn't believe me that is fine, but I think it was a brilliant move in hindsight. The only question is if I was right at all. If I'm wrong town is probably losing but I don't see anyone coming up with a better solution to this mess. IF tumble is town, we have a good chance of getting 2 mafia from that list. I have a hard time seeing tumble as mafia right now but hey Krupp can also be a mafia right 
There is at least a billion "if" s in your every post. Why can you like never call shots?
If you were like me you could never back away from Tumble lynch cuz that would be too suspicious right?
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Please look at him people. He scumreads everyone with no reasoning allows him to say 'oh i was baiting' and sl is here calling him adjusting.
You don't just change your scumreads every second. You form a towncircle you vote for others and if they go wrong you draw conclusions and lynch scum. He is never intending to do this. He's trigger happy.
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It's laughable how easy this game is for mafia.
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On July 24 2016 06:26 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote:
Please look at him people. He scumreads everyone with no reasoning allows him to say 'oh i was baiting' and sl is here calling him adjusting.
You don't just change your scumreads every second. You form a towncircle you vote for others and if they go wrong you draw conclusions and lynch scum. He is never intending to do this. He's trigger happy. I have a different playstyle than you.
Guess what, it gave us no good. There is no towncircle now. Everyone is scumreading eachother and there is so much confusion.
You pick a target, you just vote unless big stuff changes. You lynch, you draw conclusions. You stay as a town no matter what. kush kill fucked that up to the universe and any action post D1 didn't help either.
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Never lynch Tumble at this point. Flips red will give us no idea. Flips green give us no idea.
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##Vote Skynx
Kill me and kill them two next people. Grack might be 3rd. Lets do it please.
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On July 24 2016 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:29 Skynx wrote:
Never lynch Tumble at this point. Flips red will give us no idea. Flips green give us no idea. And how exactly does a lunatic lynch give us more information?
Would make Koshi scum and SL/You suspicious.
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On July 24 2016 06:31 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:30 Skynx wrote:
##Vote Skynx
Kill me and kill them two next people. Grack might be 3rd. Lets do it please. you already tried this once and people told you to shove off what do you think is going to happen this time
Nothing. No one makes sense in this game but I'm at least trying, I can die in peace.
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On July 24 2016 06:31 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
All blame goes to Kruppe if it is wrong.
OK
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On July 24 2016 06:35 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:33 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 06:31 prplhz wrote:On July 24 2016 06:30 Skynx wrote:
##Vote Skynx
Kill me and kill them two next people. Grack might be 3rd. Lets do it please. you already tried this once and people told you to shove off what do you think is going to happen this time Nothing. No one makes sense in this game but I'm at least trying, I can die in peace. who here is town and not trying
Grack.
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On July 24 2016 06:35 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Ok let's go Tumble.
If town then Rels tomorrow.
Sorry friends, Kruppe could not put more time into stuff given the time!
This is noted, you're so getting lynched tomorrow.
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New direction: WHO HERE IS TOWNREADING GRACK?
Pls read his last 2 pages of filter and re-think.
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On July 24 2016 06:37 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:36 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 06:35 prplhz wrote:On July 24 2016 06:33 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 06:31 prplhz wrote:On July 24 2016 06:30 Skynx wrote:
##Vote Skynx
Kill me and kill them two next people. Grack might be 3rd. Lets do it please. you already tried this once and people told you to shove off what do you think is going to happen this time Nothing. No one makes sense in this game but I'm at least trying, I can die in peace. who here is town and not trying Grack. Seriously? I've put a lot of effort into this game.
On July 24 2016 06:06 Grackaroni wrote:
My head is spinning in circles now.
On July 24 2016 06:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi please stay calm. We don't want any modkills.
On July 24 2016 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh for fucks sake.
On July 24 2016 06:17 Grackaroni wrote:
45 minutes left
On July 24 2016 06:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Now we have 30 minutes and we're less close to a lynch than ever before.
On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Town needs a leader.
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Tumble is gettin lynched at this point anyway. We need to change.
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Alright
DONT LYNCH: Tumble, Rels, SL, emperor, haze, Kruppe
Which leaves: Koshi, Luna, Sky, DCW, Grack
Koshi/Sky/Luna are never happening apparently
Lynch DCW/Grack
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I'm holding Kruppe responsible for everything to follow.
Vote: Tumblewood
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Oh wait can we kill grack?
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I think this is the point I might be wrong about everything this game.
Koshi and grack are town and Luna trying to save teammate taking advantage of me tunneling.
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Grack and Koshi are together no matter what imo.
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DCW vote is looking so so so so scummy right now.
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So what happens if Tumble is green? Lynch Kruppe or Koshi/Grack?
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On July 24 2016 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:53 Skynx wrote:
So what happens if Tumble is green? Lynch Kruppe or Koshi/Grack? alternatively listen to the scumteam I have iterated fifty million times or just lose if you want
Quote it now for a final time to make it 100% certain
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Hey Lunatic nice bait on your buddy.
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Koshi n Grack sorry guys I'm a tunneling addict i need help.
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My apologies on your highness Kruppe.
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Emperors last min was scummy aswell.
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On July 24 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote:Rels guns for DCW --> Mafia!TW guns for Rels? Koshi guns for TW (D2 early) ---> Mafia!Skynx guns for Koshi? Did you want to kill me cuz I voted TW D2 Skynx? Because there was some serious hate coming out of you
Sorry bro, I was wrong about pretty much everything this game
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On July 25 2016 01:54 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote:Rels guns for DCW --> Mafia!TW guns for Rels? Koshi guns for TW (D2 early) ---> Mafia!Skynx guns for Koshi? Did you want to kill me cuz I voted TW D2 Skynx? Because there was some serious hate coming out of you Sorry bro, I was wrong about pretty much everything this game
I hardpushed you cuz of non-righteous kush lynch. You were supposed to be a town pillar and meh ok i guess i vote kush really touched my nerve.
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On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread
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SL hasn't been a massive contributor in the game, he would most definitely bus Tumble here.
DCW/Lunatic is most likely duo since i was scumreading both already. Lunas bait on Tumble turned out well hehehe
Rels is 100% confirmed town. Koshi and Grack I'm convinced are towns. Haze i was already tr'ing very early on.
I need to re-read emperor all the way, there is a decent chance he's maf with that last mim "vote grack" here but "vote tumbe" in vote thread.
You can always lynch me if you want but that'd be even worse for the town from now on cuz I was so off the mark yesterday.
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On July 25 2016 02:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 01:58 Skynx wrote:On July 25 2016 01:54 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote:Rels guns for DCW --> Mafia!TW guns for Rels? Koshi guns for TW (D2 early) ---> Mafia!Skynx guns for Koshi? Did you want to kill me cuz I voted TW D2 Skynx? Because there was some serious hate coming out of you Sorry bro, I was wrong about pretty much everything this game I hardpushed you cuz of non-righteous kush lynch. You were supposed to be a town pillar and meh ok i guess i vote kush really touched my nerve. Seems like a pretty good excuse to hide behind. ##unvote ##vote Skynx
I mean you can always go back and check, its right after EoD1.
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On July 25 2016 02:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 01:58 Skynx wrote:On July 25 2016 01:54 Skynx wrote:On July 24 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote:Rels guns for DCW --> Mafia!TW guns for Rels? Koshi guns for TW (D2 early) ---> Mafia!Skynx guns for Koshi? Did you want to kill me cuz I voted TW D2 Skynx? Because there was some serious hate coming out of you Sorry bro, I was wrong about pretty much everything this game I hardpushed you cuz of non-righteous kush lynch. You were supposed to be a town pillar and meh ok i guess i vote kush really touched my nerve. Seems like a pretty good excuse to hide behind. ##unvote ##vote Skynx
On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff.
You believe what you want to believe.
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I'll join up, Luna is definitely the more dangerous scum to leave alive compared to DC.
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Yeh don't hammer early. Emperor has some ezplaining to so.
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On July 25 2016 04:06 Lunaticman wrote:
There are only 2 mafia left so at least one of you really needs to explain why your not following kruppes read.
You mean DCW? Because he does nothing this game and all the confusion came from you. You pull all the strings this game.
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No one is townreading DC here trust me.
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On July 25 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote:
can we just make an agreement
if in a LYLO with Lunaticman, lynch him
otherwise ignore him
Its not like we're lynching anyone other than him/DCW at this point anyway.
I need time to read ec, I might have gave him an easy pass early on.
Other than that you can vote sl or me but yeah...
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On July 25 2016 16:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 12:15 DCWasabi wrote:
We don't even know that there is a cop in the game, based on the setup, there could be a Vig instead, since all we know is that there is a Jailkeeper.
Or do you secretly know more? Ok this guy is 100% town.
???
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On July 25 2016 16:41 Koshi wrote:He is town. I am sure. His filter is just town. Skynx lynch sl. Grack lynch sl. Prplhz lynch sl. Rels wherr are you
You never even considering emp here is funny.
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So Koshi you say Lunatic is entirely lost town, DCW is tone based town.
Me/SL last mafia then? I think its quite the opposite
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SL and Koshi. I have a honest feeling you guys are both town. I also have a genuine feeling I'm town aswell.
It comes down to Lunatic/DC. Emperor on bench since I need time to read him. Rest are always not getting lynched today. At least I'm never voting.
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Btw shoutout to Jealous in /obs, we needed you this game bro, so much confusion. Town is an absolute mess this game but at least its fun
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On July 25 2016 17:50 Lunaticman wrote:
My god, Koshi/skynx/Grac you are the most confused townies ever. I'm honestly tired of trying to convince you.
If the blue role doesn't claim today town will probably lose, the town needs to unify I don't really care how atm.
FFS: it is easy even if the blue role gets CC you just kill both of them and get 1 mafia for sure.
Then its like 3vs 1 or something like that.
my god.
We're confused?
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Anyway, mafia splitting on this occasion I find it unrealistic.
If Grack got lynched, I would most certainly take all the blame and then you guys go to LYLO with 5-6 possible mafia. That would be perfect play for mafia to save Tumble. I think DCW was supposed to comeback before EoD, or emperor was supposed to swıtch to Grack earlier. Last mins should be so panic moves in mafia QT in case emp was mafia.
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If haze is mafia as you say Koshi, he ensured Tumble's death from very early on. Rels and Kruppe were always voting Tumble. Grack was suspicious I think so only need 1 more for equilibrium case.
I think mafia always tries to save Tumble D2.
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On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.
And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town.
Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later.
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Summary:
Koshi's lynces: haze/Luna
Sky's lynches: Luna/DCW
Rels' lynches: SL/Luna
SL's lynches: DCW/? (but never Luna)
Grack's lynches: Luna/SL
DCW's lynches: SL/?
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On July 25 2016 23:10 Skynx wrote:
Summary:
Koshi's lynces: haze/Luna
Sky's lynches: Luna/DCW
Rels' lynches: SL/Luna
SL's lynches: DCW/? (but never Luna)
Grack's lynches: Luna/SL
DCW's lynches: SL/?
Compare this to how these people were reading these past/post flips and you solve the game.
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I'm not entirely caught up with the game btw, busy day at work.
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I'm here folks. Will be here for next few hours as well.
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Don't ask me anything here for now tho, I will go 1 by 1 on 4 scum candidates.
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#1: DCWasabi
+ Show Spoiler +On July 24 2016 05:36 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 04:39 prplhz wrote:
I'd much rather just MURDER DCWasabi. He seems to be putting noticably less deliberation into the game than he did last game. You could say that carefree reads would ostensibly point to town but it just seems like he doesn't care as much about pushing his ideas as he did the last two games I played with him.
Like just now, just 5 minutes of going through Tumblewood's filter and posting a couple of posts with a one liner smacked on them. Just doesn't seem like how he posted in the other games, he would be more inquisitive and then when he had an idea he would push it. This just seems like "you guys do whatever as long as I have some deniability for whatever's happeneing". You are correct, I don't care as much about pushing my ideas. That is because I am way more confused this game regarding who is mafia. I was hesitant to even post that long post last night because I knew it would get torn down. If you want to mislynch me, go for it. Don't expect me to put a bunch more energy into defending myself, because I am not going to. I can tell you one thing though, if I was actually Mafia I would be a lot more motivated to play this game and I THINK I would be more active since I would actually know what was going on. I probably shouldn't commit to playing more games unless I feel like I can put more time and thought into it too. Also, I have never actually played a games as Mafia either in real life (2 games) or on forum (2 partial games + this game); maybe it would be easier to scumhunt if I knew how it felt to be Mafia or if I actually knew what they try to do first-hand (not just reading a guide a few weeks ago). I'm not going to give-up completely though as that would be a jerk-move so yeah...
meh this is sooo wifom. "I wouldn't be this inactive if I was mafia and stuff". It's like he's just trying to find reasons not to be scumread instead of just telling whats going on. If you're busy let town know, simple.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 24 2016 05:40 DCWasabi wrote:
You guys think Tumble is town and I am defending him, but you think I am Mafia?
That makes no fucking sense.
If I was Mafia, I would have hammered Tumble in a heartbeat. On July 24 2016 05:40 DCWasabi wrote:
I think hes town, but I know I am town. On July 24 2016 05:42 DCWasabi wrote:
Seriously, Tumble had 5 and I didn't switch to him, these arguements are redic.
More wifom, more of this "If I was scum" scenarios.
If I was Mafia, I would have hammered Tumble in a heartbeat. This is almost a scumclaim?
+ Show Spoiler +On July 24 2016 05:54 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 05:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz
If Prplhz is scum, then he is secretly very good at Mafia. Have you seen the tone of his posts where he is screaming and shit with little time between posts. My meeting in 15 mins now. I still think Rels is as good as any, but he is not here to defend himself apparently...
He earlier said also "Tumble is town or very good mafia", he sounds like a broken record on repeat really.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 25 2016 01:52 DCWasabi wrote:GRACK is the scummiest fucking scum ever born, and I'm going to show you why... Grack is saying that Prplz probably got a red check on me, but that is fucking impossible and he knows it. First of all those posts: Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 22:09 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm pretty sure Prplhz got a red check on DCW, so that's where my vote is going. Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Nah Koshi you're just making me paranoid at this point. DCW left room for TW and Skynx to be mafia in his list. And he's decided that he's just going to roll over today. He probably knows that he's been checked and doesn't want to reveal any information now. Well, Prpl thought that KRUPPE was claiming cop earlier and went on a huge rage-fest about Kruppe being useless and how the real cop should fucking CC if there was one out there because otherwise Kruppe is confirmed town. Well Prpl is not going to fucking do that if he is the cop, it doesn't make any sense. He was very suspicious of Kruppe and if he was the cop then he would have CC'd... so much time passed and he didn't CC and then Kruppe ended up being the Jailkeeper, fine whatever, Kruppe was useful later. Now GRACK was well aware of this cop business and there is no way that he forgot about it, so why does he think Prp is a cop now? **There is a more evidence for this in thread, go look, I'm just putting 1 quote** Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 19:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 19:49 prplhz wrote:On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 19:47 prplhz wrote:On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 19:46 prplhz wrote:On July 22 2016 19:44 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 22 2016 19:20 prplhz wrote:
why shoot Palmar over Koshi when we have no protective roles
not calling Koshi scum at all, i'm more thinking that it's a good idea to reconsider most things
but they're gonna shoot Kruppe the Eel n2 so we'll have Koshi for a while And why is Kruppe not a traitor spouting lies? Kruppe asks of you, prplhz, where do you get your info? because no cc? What sort of Warren does most innocent Kruppe tap into? i don't understand this post What sort of adept does prplhz believe Kruppe to be? i thought you were a cop?i guess it's easy to misunderstand the things you're saying WHEN YOU INSIST ON OBSCURING EVERYTHING AND TALKING LIKE A LUNATIC i need a break Why did you think this? Because Rels said so? The Rels you had a scumread on? Kruppe raises his eyebrow most vehemently! You said you were an adept of truth. How else were we supposed to interpret that? Furthermore, he is obsessed with the Palmar kill. And he appears to have bussed Tumblewood. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 03:03 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 03:00 Lunaticman wrote:On July 23 2016 02:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I didn't think Palmar would get killed. There's probably something worthwhile in his filter because he didn't seem overly townie. Or that is what the mafia wants us to think, which means it is probably the reverse. If mafia were smart they would have left Palmar alive. A bunch of people would have voted him. I would have considered it for sure. There's got to be a reason to kill him. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing that sticks out to me from Palmar is that he was one of the few suspicious of Tumblewood. It's either because of that or the scum team is just bad. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh I'm tired of this. Tumble is a fine lynch and seems to have some support. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:28 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were scum this game I would have come back day 2 to lynch Palmar because I fucking love lynching Palmar. But then, he slips up because he is fucking patting himself on the back for his Palmar kill, that HE MADE. Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm starting to realize after all why the Palmar kill was a stroke of genius right now...
##vote GrackHe ain't no cop IRL or ingame, cuz I'm green as grass Mofos. I think part of Tumbles strategy was supporting me by the way, so if he went down there would be suspicion on me and also he may have known from my last 2 games that I am suspicious of people who are suspicious of me (probably unfairly) and tend to be friendly to those who support me. I need to learn better...
This is like so so poor. How you know kruppe being cop was impossible and grack knew it? How you draw he made palmar kill cuz of that lol cmon...
+ Show Spoiler +On July 25 2016 08:22 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 05:05 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
can somebody put words on why DCWasabi is town?
seems like it's just a feeling Nowhere in this game has he ever tried to put himself in a good position. Literally all lists and all reads he had were 100% wrong. Somewhere a mafia tries to actually look good eventually, they plan ahead. DCWasabi was able to make the worst possible post each time. Maybe he is mafia and wanted to win with all mafia alive. But I am entertaining the idea that he is town COMPLETELY on the wrong path. And there is 2 mafia in Lunatic/Skynx/Sicklucker This sums it up perfectly LOL. No way I would look this bad if I was Mafia haha. I'm actually good at strategy games where I have perfect information, I'm a chess coach in real life! Unfortunately in this game I have far from perfect information.
More "If i was mafia"
+ Show Spoiler +On July 24 2016 06:10 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 06:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm lynching one of Koshi or Luna today. Tell me why they are town and try to convince yourself to what you're saying.
13 pages of filter is not a parameter in argument, google raynpelikoneet. I'm changing my vote to Koshi. I believe in you Skynx. ## unvote
##vote KoshiI'll be back after the silent night. On July 25 2016 09:55 DCWasabi wrote:What specifically? I'm sheeping Koshi for now. ##unvote
##vote sicklucker
Maybe not much of a tell since Koshi got so much towncred for flip but from blindvoting koshi into sheeping koshi, while saying naught of what changed his opinion.
Overall, nearly every reason behind his reads are like so weak, so non-opinion descriptive. He's just posting stuff and claiming every few posts why he can't be mafia.
Very strong candidate here.
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On to Luna, this might take a while...
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Actually nvm, i'm gona skip and go SL first.
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Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW.
I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz.
1st DCW, 2nd Luna.
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On July 26 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:
Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW.
I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz.
1st DCW, 2nd Luna. I'm sorry but try to give us your arguments, nothing your saying is making sense to me atm. How is SL town? How am I mafia? (that wasn't already explained)
Without quoting,
Tone of your reads sound forced to me. They are too based on others opinions, your reasonings behind them, if there are any, are very very surjective. Like "if this is true, then this this and this", you're analytical in your own way but I feel like its not trying to solve the game in any way.
You sheep me too much, you sheep Koshi too much. In essence I don't think you have your own opinions on anyone.
This is a very safe way of playing scum.
SL on the other hand feels quite the opposite. He hasn't posted nearly as much and not all of them are constructive posts but the way he posts is all genuine. He always states his opinions, right or wrong. He has mostly been wrong this game thats why he's getting scumread imo. I think I would have been in exact same position had I not been so agressive. I just think he's town this way.
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You are like a hyper-active DCW in this game whereas SL is a very passifist me.
I'm town and I honestly think DCW is mafia.
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Sicklucker i just too natural to play mafia. At no point he gave me an impression that he was under pressure or anything. You see what I mean? Like "ahwell if i get mislynched too bad w/e".
I was exactly the same D2, tunnelling Koshi. This is a town mentality, scum always think twice before posting. "Can what I just posted be interpreted as scum?" He doesn't post this way, very open about what he thinks about certain people.
All these combined, I don't think he's mafia.
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Race in parallel universe? Who is dead?
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Luna, you're my only lynch today. I've never seen anyone more scummy. You are literally denying any logic with your posting. None of what you say is in relation with other.
On July 26 2016 17:22 Lunaticman wrote:
Also:
There is one mafia between Koshi/Skyx.
I will not accept any other lynch than Koshi followed by Skynx unless blue claim until one of them flips red.
NEXT UP:
is DC/GRAC in that order. Town win gg no re.
On July 26 2016 17:23 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 17:22 Rels wrote:
On the other hand.
prp. Please explain your hammer ASAP. There is a fucking reason as to why hammer is bad and it was stated over and over since the game start. The mafia was behind that hammer and stupid townies. I think the last 2 mafia are in on that hammer.
Yeah you agree with me SL is town right? nice one bro.
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Also don't bother with answering me. Your act lasted too long, no one ever can convince me you're town.
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On July 26 2016 17:23 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 17:22 Rels wrote:
On the other hand.
prp. Please explain your hammer ASAP. There is a fucking reason as to why hammer is bad and it was stated over and over since the game start. The mafia was behind that hammer and stupid townies.I think the last 2 mafia are in on that hammer.
Omg, like I can't even... You were on SL lynch, you're calling SL lynchers scum or stupid townies. You break silent night to say you agree with my SL town read...
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You're all already so bad Lunatic/DCW survived yesterday. I give up all hope if we lynch someone else today.
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On July 26 2016 21:22 emperorchampion wrote:
@skynx: you think lunatic over prpl? He didn't vote yesterday, I would be completely shocked if there wasn't at least 1 mafia on the sl lynch.
dcw
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Well. haze's hammer was so scummy. But as a policy I'm not gona vote anyone else today. Them both should have got lynched long ago. Luna is one of main reasons confusion in the game reached hazardous levels, DC on the other hand did absolutely nothing all game. They just have to die, they are mafia.
Haze is maybe scum but idc. Other people including me made mistakes this game, we can lynch him at lylo.
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Kruppe also scrumread SL and me in that list so not a great reference.
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On July 26 2016 22:22 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 22:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 26 2016 22:09 Lunaticman wrote:On July 26 2016 21:44 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm sure koshi lays out the argument a lot better than I did in a few posts.
Also looking back at it, that fake cop claim bullshit with the red name. I'm sure that's what set koshi on to him, damn koshi should have claimed in retrospect, probably would have if prpl hadn't hammered If we lose it is koshis fault, the only reason he probably didn't claim was because I told him to do it? kappa. If he cleared maybe DC/Grac for example we would have won this easy. There is only one person dying today Skynx. he was on the grac train and on ALL OTHER TOWNiES.
#Vote Skynx It was likely due to who he checked, but there is no use in speculating I think. Def not koshi's fault, I was super blind yesterday, not really thinking about anything too clearly. Also there is a chance he was going to claim, but never had a chance due to day ending early. I do agree with you that skynx could be mafia. I'm telling you if koshi claimed, at least he could have lead the town. I'm positive the hammer on SL wouldn't have happend then. Everyone who voted on the Grac lynch is dead expect me and Skynx. If he is not mafia I will be fucking amazed. Why wouldn't at least one mafia try to save him and swing the vote. if Tumble had survived they would have been in a really good position. Because it would not have been certain he would get lynched again. Look at Grels and DC, they are "town" now because they didn't get lynched.
If's/would've count in this post: 7
Anything but clear direction. I'm not moving, town has sucked enough this game. Lynch me and end this misery if you want. Luna doesn't deserve this win as mafia but you guys are worse.
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If he's actually clueless green then we lynch haze and DC anyway and win but with 50% reduction in useless post count. But w/e rly,
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I'm scumreading DC since D1, he didn't do anything to improve.
Same with Luna.
I'm townreading haze since D1, his hammer without notice was incredibly scummy, thats it.
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On July 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
prplhz is mafia.
And for all the insane fucking things Lunatic has done. I think he never ever once said anything about prplhz.
I am sure it is those 2. ggwpnore.
Fuck I can't believe it. Mafia can't hide forever I guess.
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On July 25 2016 03:54 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Lunaticman
Either he is mafia or he is town and loses the game for town further down the road.
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On July 26 2016 22:46 emperorchampion wrote:
So haze and lunatic for you?
Lunatic 100%. Haze is next depending on what he posts.
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On July 26 2016 23:02 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2016 22:59 Lunaticman wrote:
I'm going t go through koshis filter a bit and see what he says:
#unvote
#vote DC btw lunatic, who are you trying to convince with your dcw vote?
Confirming Luna/haze for easing our path. Gentleman to the bitter end.
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On July 26 2016 23:09 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
What is sl his angle as mafia to spare dcw? There was a legit chance that DCW was going to get momentum if there is no mafia within Koshi/prplhz.
Yet every mafia refused to go to that lynch?
And don't tell me dcw is mafia because he is town.
Mafia wanted to kill Grack. There are at least 2 mafia on Grack. Tumble + lunatic.
There is a chance that the third mafia is on Grack as well (skynx or sl) but I am townreading skynx pretty heavily now. And sl a bit.
I believe prplhz was the mafia that tried to make the DCW wagon happen with me. And both Tumble and Luna didn't want to be third and waited till there was more town on the wagon to swap. Here is a good argument for why haze is mafia... Koshi is a bit all over the place but he said DC was town like several times so I guess that moves him down in the rankings sigh. could it be Skynx/Haze? Skynx/DC? fuck it either way i think everyone on the grac train should die. Followed by DC Skynx Haze/DC #Unvote #Vote Skynx
Good thing you're confirming yourself bit by bit with every single post.
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Well here's some statistics for you.
Votes so far:
Skynx: Kruppe, Grack, Lunatic
Rels: DCW, Tumble, SL
Lunatic: DCW, Grack, none
DCW: kush, Koshi, SL
emperor: DCW, Tumble, none
haze: Rels, Tumble, SL
Grack: kush, Tumble, SL
100% voting on mislynches: Grack, DCW
50% voting on mislynches: Rels, haze
0% voting on mislynches: Skynx, Lunatic, emperor
Lyncing scum: Rels, Grack, haze
This is a good indication that DCW is misled town, as koshi was suggesting.
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On July 26 2016 23:33 prplhz wrote:
i still have no idea why we're not killing DCWasabi except for him being wrong
sicklucker said that maybe DCWasabi is just not comfortable bussing in his first scum game which could absolutely be the case
See, Koshi is prolly shouting this in obs qt right now:
DCW being clueless town is one thing. Luna being totally misleading on every post, not trying to make sense and doing everything wrong all at the same time is another. Scum has to find a way of looking townie while being wrong and misleading. Lunatic has done it this game by having a 4312315 page filter and you guys are all buying it unbelievable.
Since you're here, why hammer?
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good emp, its important we stay together on this one. Lunatic 1st.
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On July 27 2016 00:15 Grackaroni wrote:
EC and Skynx you have a history of reading each other well right?
I'm willing to take blame on myself if emperor ends up being scum yes. He's scumgame is out there, this isn't one.
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Read thread bud, Lunatic 1st.
But yeah you're not here for too long either.
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On July 27 2016 00:20 prplhz wrote:
if i flip town, will you stop lynching Lunaticman?
No
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His green flip will make me prolly re-read the entire game if I'm bothered. And give up/sheep rels if I'm lazy.
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btw haze pls don't hammer yourself unless you are aiming for nominations in mafia awards.
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On July 27 2016 00:25 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:23 Skynx wrote:
btw haze pls don't hammer yourself unless you are aiming for nominations in mafia awards. town needs: 1) flips 2) less dumb posts
convince me not to hammer myself
Bolded should convince you to vote Lunatic.
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On July 27 2016 00:27 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 00:26 Skynx wrote:On July 27 2016 00:25 prplhz wrote:On July 27 2016 00:23 Skynx wrote:
btw haze pls don't hammer yourself unless you are aiming for nominations in mafia awards. town needs: 1) flips 2) less dumb posts
convince me not to hammer myself Bolded should convince you to vote Lunatic. 3) i get out of this stupid game
SL hammer certainly did not help that.
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So Luna doesn't have to vote, Koshi doesn't expose his checks, you make obv scum move Luna tunnels you today and rides the towncred to victory?
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On July 27 2016 00:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Fuck me I posted wrong again, I have to stop doing that.
On July 25 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote:
You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is
prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx
top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch.
And the last thing Koshi koshi said was that it could be EC and skynx.
I think Skynx is trying to cash in on me before dying himself, there has to be at least one mafia on the grac train and there are only 2 players left from it.
The reason Rels and Grac probably isnt on that list is because he cop checked them. I am going to assume that this is his last will.
There is actually nothing else to say about this subject for once. It comes down to basic math.
And skynx the only thing you've been doing this entire game is calling me scum because I post honestly please stop it it is exhausting. It's harder to play as town ok
If you read Koshies filter he tried pushing me to see if I was mafia because it felt important. I think he realised I wasn't mafia so he let it go, you can see that he becomes more and more usure the more he thinks about it in his posts.
Also: There has to be at least one mafia in the Tumble train, I bet it is DC. I just can't bring myself to think EC/Haze is scummy atm.
Town:
Lunaticman
Probable town:
Rels Grac
50/50:
Haze
EC
Scummy:
DC
mafia:
Skynx
I made a semi case on you D1. Right now I can't find the words to ridicule your chances of being town without getting banned.
I analysed pretty much everyone in game at one point. Check that SL read of mine that you agreed, you are scum for doing the exact opposite of whats written there.
Just to point out since it popped into my mind, you've sheeped most of my scumreads including DC, Koshi, Grack. You also agreed on many pointers I've put out there, SL read being the most recent one. You are so ready to agree with me and the only reason you're scumreading me seems to be the fact that me and only me in this game have exposed you. Anytime I hard scumread you, you instantly scumread me back. Thats not how town works.
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On July 27 2016 03:08 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 02:53 Skynx wrote:On July 27 2016 00:42 Lunaticman wrote:
Fuck me I posted wrong again, I have to stop doing that.
On July 25 2016 21:21 Koshi wrote:
You can lynch sl, he can be red, easily, but my list is
prplhz
lunatic
dcw
sl
skynx
top is most mafia and if either dcw or sl flips mafia in the future the other one needs to be autolynch.
And the last thing Koshi koshi said was that it could be EC and skynx.
I think Skynx is trying to cash in on me before dying himself, there has to be at least one mafia on the grac train and there are only 2 players left from it.
The reason Rels and Grac probably isnt on that list is because he cop checked them. I am going to assume that this is his last will.
There is actually nothing else to say about this subject for once. It comes down to basic math.
And skynx the only thing you've been doing this entire game is calling me scum because I post honestly please stop it it is exhausting. It's harder to play as town ok
If you read Koshies filter he tried pushing me to see if I was mafia because it felt important. I think he realised I wasn't mafia so he let it go, you can see that he becomes more and more usure the more he thinks about it in his posts.
Also: There has to be at least one mafia in the Tumble train, I bet it is DC. I just can't bring myself to think EC/Haze is scummy atm.
Town:
Lunaticman
Probable town:
Rels Grac
50/50:
Haze
EC
Scummy:
DC
mafia:
Skynx I made a semi case on you D1. Right now I can't find the words to ridicule your chances of being town without getting banned. I analysed pretty much everyone in game at one point. Check that SL read of mine that you agreed, you are scum for doing the exact opposite of whats written there. Just to point out since it popped into my mind, you've sheeped most of my scumreads including DC, Koshi, Grack. You also agreed on many pointers I've put out there, SL read being the most recent one. You are so ready to agree with me and the only reason you're scumreading me seems to be the fact that me and only me in this game have exposed you. Anytime I hard scumread you, you instantly scumread me back. Thats not how town works. So you don't believe there was a mafia on the grac train besides tumble? I do and I wont take the chance that there was one.Besides, this game is outside both our hands it's just a shame your going all in on a townie. Also I think I never used your reads a single time tbh because you were scum reading me since day one remember and I know I'm town which makes you look suspicious too me. I think I've been pretty specific when I've been using other players information. There really is no point in you or me talking anymore because the game is set between us anyway. I think it's just a mater in which order we should be lynched. I think I made a pretty good case against you and you believe you made a good case against me. I think the town should just decide who die first. The question really is what happens after we both die in that situation. I have no issues with a 1v1 trade but two greens in a row is really bad.
YOU
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Keep your eyes on the ball guys.
Luna into haze. Nothing changed.
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How cute it is of you to mention Koshi.
On July 25 2016 22:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 18:56 Lunaticman wrote:On July 25 2016 18:53 Skynx wrote:On July 25 2016 18:22 Koshi wrote:
And I am sure lunatic is mafia as well.
And I am 100% sure DCWasabi is town. Can we go Lunatic today then? I have DC maf yiu have haze, we can sort that out later. Why do you keep forcing me to post: DC and haze are way better lynches than me, I'm suprised you can't see it. Koshi and Skynx you are too try hard for your own good. How did prplhz suddenly become a better lynch than you? This is the first time you spoke of him ever.
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On July 27 2016 05:27 Lunaticman wrote:
In hindsight I did pretty good for having half the town scum read me because I have no previous meta/ lots of activity.
Who is scumreading you?
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Ahwell, everyone knows my intentions.
Nn everyone. You know what to do.
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You know what, I reached a conclusion last night. Lunatic is just a 22 page Moosy, he should be having soo much fun trolling all of us for a 2500 post game.
However the way he posts did not change a single bit since min 0. All he did was posts filled with nothing, lists without basis, sheeping other people then vote for those people, theorycrafting without logic, claiming town, hardpushing me if I mention his name. Once did he not push for an agenda or made sense.
It this level of 22 pages of blankness enough to scumread someone? Maybe not.
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I'll hammer if you guys are fine with it, DC should be next.
I'm ready to go lylo with Luna if all goes wrong.
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Where did these cop checks came from lol
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Man thats like pure speculation. But whatever they are both 100% town anyways.
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Man Koshi's page 13 is a goldmine.
On July 25 2016 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Lunatic is just pushing town into the wrong direction constantly and hasn't had a single decent game solving thought in his 17 page filter. The guy limits himself to just posting random scumteams without any decent logic behind it. But the most damning is that he yelled the entire D2 that there was mafia within Kruppe/Tumble/Koshi and then voted Grack. That is inconsistent and pushed mafia agenda.
Lunatic also only makes somewhat sense if he is defending himself, then suddenly it makes somewhat sense why he did things (even in our world). I do not believe that the guy is so clueless about finding mafia.
And let me explain once more: Clueless does not mean he doesn't know how mafia works, he knows, but he has never presented to this thread a real reason why somebody is mafia.
Also for 17 pages of filter. He never ever is convinced somebody is mafia ever. Like one moment he could say "Koshi is mafia" and the very next post he is trying to convince me that prplhz is not mafia and we should lynch Grack.
And for prplhz:
Only player this game that is flying under the radar. Received townreads in the start from literally everybody and is riding that townread to the sunset. Mafia or potential mafia never tries to put any suspicion on him, look at lunatic, never ever is prplhz in a scumteam, same for sicklucker, and probably also tumble, --> prplhz doesn't exist to these people. Yet EC is getting scumread 24/7. While the guy is town incarnated;
I showed that during the lynch he was with me to swap to DCWasabi, and after that didn't happen (why??? if we both are town) he moved back after me to Tumble (he had really no choice tbh or show serious face) but kept advocating to not lynch Tumble.
Other than that prplhz has not made enough posts that jump out. But I guess that is the flying under the radar part.
Not saying I am 100% certain. But I have shown that prplhz and Lunatic could have actual hidden agendas this game.
prplhz plays silent mafia that puts himself in a good position. Classic.
Lunatic I don't believe is town. What did the guy do that was solely town in his filter? Or really mafia? He would be very atypical mafia, and for this reason alone gets townread.
sicklucker is just super blunt and open, if he wanted to save Tumble so bad he could have went to DCW. I don't think DCW is mafia, I don't think sl is mafia. I have to be wrong on both. I don't believe that.
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On July 27 2016 20:16 prplhz wrote:
not even the author of Koshi's case against me thought it was any good
not even the lousiest blacksmith thought your hammer was any good
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On July 27 2016 20:23 prplhz wrote:
eh just hammer me the reason not to hammer sicklucker was that he might have changed some people's opinions but that's not happening here
this game is boring me but i pretty much never join two at the same time and i wanna play onegu 2
i already gave my final reads
Yeh before you go why Lunatic is town again? Because Palmar said so or you have other things to say?
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On July 27 2016 23:08 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2016 19:55 Skynx wrote:
You know what, I reached a conclusion last night. Lunatic is just a 22 page Moosy, he should be having soo much fun trolling all of us for a 2500 post game.
However the way he posts did not change a single bit since min 0. All he did was posts filled with nothing, lists without basis, sheeping other people then vote for those people, theorycrafting without logic, claiming town, hardpushing me if I mention his name. Once did he not push for an agenda or made sense.
It this level of 22 pages of blankness enough to scumread someone? Maybe not.
I don't think you can really compare Moosy to Lunatic here lol, Moosy played a great game against us
Oh right. Yeah I think that must be the difference
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Man, I just can't bait him to ragepost the scum QT...
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Are we gona get anything more out of today? You wanna do the honours emp or shall I?
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I guess we wait for Rels anyways.
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Tell me emp, which one is mislead town and which one is scum?
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On July 27 2016 23:58 emperorchampion wrote:
I dunno: prp -> DC if prp red / skynx if green -> luna
thoughts?
I'm happy with this but lynching me after a green flip will lose town the game unfortunately.
In that sense you think there is more of a chance me being haze's buddy compared to Luna?
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We're a bit past the learning point unfortunately, we are lynching who we believe is scum cuz there aren't that many candidates left.
If we are eternally agreeing on 2/3 haze/Luna/DC, I'm lyncing DC last.
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I don't even know why am I trying to reason with an obvious troll for past 5 days.
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Lemme tell you why my contributions are like diarrhea since D2 btw:
Its cuz I found last two scum out of possible 3. One is trolling, one is voting himself and one is afk forever. This game is over and I don't wanna go over your lightyear long filter of uselessness to waste my time.
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This has nothing to do with our tunneling, you have abandoned common sense at all costs and we are just not buying it anymore.
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I'll go hammer on your approval Rels btw.
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It's not like we are on wrong path or something. If someone else is mafia they are having the easiest game cuz the trio is doing all the scumwork for them.
We can't really do much in that case.
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Luna into DC if I die tonight.
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Hey Luna, why you think haze is town btw?
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On July 29 2016 00:18 Lunaticman wrote:You also suck donkey balls. jesus christ.
Quality post.
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Modkill would've been just, this town did deserve that kind of ending but w/e. The fact that you did nothing townie all game and still have wits to flame me post game is such a miserable thing. I pity you.
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On July 29 2016 00:36 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 00:27 Skynx wrote:
Modkill would've been just, this town did deserve that kind of ending but w/e. The fact that you did nothing townie all game and still have wits to flame me post game is such a miserable thing. I pity you. I know who wanted it, the funny thing was that I was answering your post lolz... Honestly you really need to chill, it is just a game.
Yeah must have been hard concluding it wad me with #wynoqtinturkey. It's also funny breaking the rules in whatever way yeah why not.
I'm perfectly chill, you are the one calling me and emp sucking donkey balls.
For your future games: Not refaining from logic and common sense is a good place to start.
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On July 29 2016 03:01 Lunaticman wrote:
Also Skynx just to make it clear. I'm sorry if i offended you in any way. I understand you think I played bad, but we have a difference in opinion, sometimes that happens.
Also I think I owe EC an apology too, I'm sorry if I offended you!
We all played god awful. I was just way too triggered this game because of that and i do eveything 10 times worse when triggered.
Big up, you showed heart, happy there is no bad blood. Look at the last guy i tunneled he's just gone forever
Maybe i should tunnel less hmmm
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Man what happens is that my mind focusses all the energy to actually genuinely convince someone is mafia after it fits the general mafia criteria that is there. After that they are pretty much hopeless cuz the mind is just reminding itself that even if i back down reasonably they can still be mafia and im making a huge mistake cuz they fit the mafia criteria earlier on.
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On July 29 2016 03:57 prplhz wrote:
i was getting lynched d2 anyway doesn't matter where my vote was
Skynx was ready to hammer
I wasn't thinking at all. It was so obv
All mislynches were so avoidable lol
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We might aswell give mafia members a badge of honor in top secret then delete this game from existence.
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EPT
