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On July 23 2016 05:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:02 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town? Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi...... For the reason I just said. You're lynching him for lynching Kush without reason instead of Rels. But why is that scummy if Rels is town? No he swapped from Kruppe to kush. Rels wasn't involved at all. He said he was scared to vote Rels. Thats why Tumble's point is interesting. Are you now walking back your town read of Rels?
It's impossible to talk to you. Where the fuck did you draw that from what I wrote please tell me.
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I definitely agree that there was scum on the Kruppe wagon, but that's just due to probability really. There's 3 scum and they have to park their vote somewhere. Scum tend to split up votes too.
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On July 23 2016 04:59 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:51 Rels wrote:On July 23 2016 04:50 Tumblewood wrote:On July 23 2016 04:46 Rels wrote:
Tumble explain your scumread on me first 24 hours: (nothing) first posts: random shitty scumreads EoD: throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks with lynches, but emphasizing dcwasabi who is and was obvious town pretty clear-cut to me. you obviously don't and can't believe your reads because they're so weak and so all over the place. What reads I "can't believe" ? Why is DC "clear cut" town ? like, all seventy of your scumreads. there is no way you came back to thread after afkness and had a very strong DC (aka dude with 100% town mindset) read and four other scumreads and you believed all of them.
That is a lie.
The only strong scumread I had was:
On July 22 2016 04:41 Rels wrote:DC have a fair chance being scum. His filter have almost no content BUT all of his big posts are made to feel like they actually have content. A recurring theme these these big posts is "INACTIVE IS DIFFERENT FROM SCUMMY". Look, it comes back very often: Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game. Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up. I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh. At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning. I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town. This one doesn't even address the problematic, since Tumble was not attacking Luna and EC for making joke post, but for making "fake contributory" posts. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:15 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 01:58 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 01:38 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 01:35 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 01:25 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 01:19 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 01:14 Lunaticman wrote:
There is a worrying amount of silent players what do you mean by this? who is silent and why is that worrying? I just think the silent mafia is the hardest mafia to beat! They will probably post when I am asleep. But we still need more "reads" why do you think silent mafia are harder to beat? what makes you think they will post when you're asleep when they're not posting now? Because it turns into a guessing game, you should know this. Because they might be on different time zones. Hence my earlier question to americans. but the OP says 10 posts or you're dead so people will post or they will die. problem solved. also, if they don't post because they're in another timezone then time will pass and suddenly they will start posting so it seems like problem will solve itself again. dunno why it's so worrying. and no, i don't know that lurking scum are more worrying. i think active scum are just as worrying because sometimes they turn out to be impossible to kill. maybe because i just played with damdred and he was reasonably active scum and impossible to kill and i didn't realize this until it was too late. This makes sense. Damdred totally fooled me last 2 games as active Mafia. Also, the rules of the game should have people posting when they are awake and able, so it is quite premature to worry about activity, we should be looking at the tone, content, purpose, etc... of what people are posting when they start posting. Noting the people that haven't posted yet is good, not bad, since it will encourages them to post. But, it doesn't mean that they are scum. Useless. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;
Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz
There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,
A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar
The rest are blanks for me.
DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains
How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet. They should be null. What makes you think that they are scummy? Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:51 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:47 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;
Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz
There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,
A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar
The rest are blanks for me.
DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains
How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet. They should be null. What makes you think that they are scummy? They havent posted yet. That doesn't mean they are Mafia, it just means they are inactive. We could Policy Lynch for inactivity, or we can Lynch somebody we actually are reading as mafia. If they don't get active before the deadline, then host action will take place based on OP. If they wait till the deadline, then post low-content / meaningless things, then we can lynch them on D2 if we think they are Mafia lurking in the shadows. We do want them to be more active, but we don't want to derail the thread throwing darts at empty space. Useless question to luna + a big post based on luna's answer, yet no conclusion on luna. I don't know what was the point of his question. Pointless questions are a good way to "participate" for scum. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
Is this 1920's Chicago, or something? No way there are that many Mafia. On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading: 3) Skynx 4) Lunaticman 5) emperorchampion 10) Tumblewood yourself Can you post some reasons? Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar
Is this 1920's Chicago, or something? No way there are that many Mafia. On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading: 3) Skynx 4) Lunaticman 5) emperorchampion 10) Tumblewood yourself Can you post some reasons? yes I can but I won't because that would take effort and not be that fun. No reaction on kush answer. He is a good lynchI'll read some other filters to see if I prefer someone else. But he is a good lynch.
I also had a post on prp and a post on you being possible scum. That is it.
Actually I found a post of mine resuming my mindset after catching up:
On July 22 2016 05:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 04:54 Lunaticman wrote:
I'd be fine lynching Kruppe, Palmar. The others are honestly null reads to me so far.
I could also condone something like: DCWasabi, Prplhz, sicklucker, nnn,thekushmountains.
To me Rels reads like town to much, if he is mafia he sure is fooling me. Palmar might be town. Kruppe I'm not sure but I'm not seeing the scuminess. kush could be anything but I dont' really want to lynch him today because he usually stays AFK for long periods of time as scum, he's kinda easy to read the later the game goes. SL I forgot he was in the game, but him not doing anything D1 is possible for any alignment, so a lynch on him would be a pure policy. I want to read his filter before ruling him out but since I don't remember anything he's said I don't think I'll find anything interesting. It's probably gonna be between DC and PRP. And no worries about me I'm town.
On July 22 2016 05:02 Rels wrote:
Tumble is a possibility too. He voted me for no reason at the moment I came back to the thread. He didn't state any reason for the vote, he could be scum going with the wind. And he left while I was questionning him on his attack on EC earlier.
So, one strong scumread and two scumleans.
There. Prove there was more or STFU
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On July 23 2016 05:06 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:04 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 05:02 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town? Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi...... For the reason I just said. You're lynching him for lynching Kush without reason instead of Rels. But why is that scummy if Rels is town? No he swapped from Kruppe to kush. Rels wasn't involved at all. He said he was scared to vote Rels. Thats why Tumble's point is interesting. Are you now walking back your town read of Rels? It's impossible to talk to you. Where the fuck did you draw that from what I wrote please tell me.
On July 23 2016 04:09 Tumblewood wrote:guys I found rels's partner this guy Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
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It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add. how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum. ??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels. Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:19 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:page 8 townread: On July 12 2016 15:36 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe welcomes EmperorChampion, a true friend of Kruppe, to Kruppe's table. Sit, friend, and marvel in the sweetness, and sweet it is indeed, of Kruppe's friendship. next post. page 9 townread: On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,
I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.
Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.
DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.
[green]prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.
For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views? Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. next post. page 13 update on read: On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?
Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn! next post. page 22 scumread: On July 13 2016 22:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Alas, wisdom is obscured to those with (mayhaps feigned?) ignorant eyes.
Words are spoken of the traitor Snickers. One of many words yet now shrouded in silence. Kruppe admits to the peculiarity of such a phenomenon, a personality switched, a mouth stitched. Kruppe begs of thee, Snickers —if you are a true friend of Kruppe's—, sing loud and true!
Yet in the shadows sits KelsierSC, once prodded by friend Vivax's insight, still a convenient bystander. Kruppe asks of you —reader—, who may just be a true friend of Kruppe, do you consider Kelsier to be a friend? Kruppe raises his eyebrow with much vehemency! next post, page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 05:59 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe is somewhat conflicted, dear friends. It seems that Snickers simply stormed off in a fit of anger! How very uncharacteristic, indeed. When faced with peril, should we not show our true colors and shine bright? Mayhaps Snickers is a traitor in truth after all.
Yet, Kruppe's infinite wisdom prevails! Kelsier is not a true friend, but a traitor among us! It has been seen by bard Vivax before, but Kelsier has slipped through the myriad of conversations. Kelsier's display of opinion was the first impression —the most important of impression's, Kruppe would argue— given to us by undear Kelsier, and it has stayed that way. Our beloved bard had even spoken true of Kelsier's most interesting view; it was characterized by inconsistency! Alas, it is true that Kelsier could still be a friend after all. But, with finger both brazenly raised and wagging, Kruppe would argue that Kelsier has since not contributed his opinion at all! Most interesting, as this seemed to be an utmost priority at the very start!
Kruppe —with heavy heart, as your truest friend Kruppe is not one to resort to violence— will temporarily put down his left pastry (though the right pastry is still firmly grasped) to point a finger at Kelsier. next post page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 06:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Though if Snickers does not show up for a most rousing of conversation, then Kruppe will not oppose the ousting of Snickers.
Alas, at is stands your dearest friend Kruppe has some important business to attend to. Your most interesting conversations will certainly be missed! Though Kruppe is sure he will hear of them. Those are all consecutive posts. Well constructed and easy to read. This game he is doing nothing of that. The only read post he gave was the last one. Which he made to get people of his back. The envelope post was terrible vague. It even appears the red envelopes were his townreads and the blue ones were scumreads. How the fuck? That is the opposite as his previous game because there even though he roleplayed his reads were clear. This game he is hiding behind the roleplaying to minimize giving out reads. He isn't a lock mafia. But if we want to lynch a guy who has given town nothing, plays under his capabilities and plays meta different than his last town game. Kruppe is always the lynch. OK. I see your point. DC is still a better lynch No he isn't at all. Ok. You decided to be completely useless this game. Ignored for the rest of the game. Will push your lynch when possible. Insane how you haven't said anything remotely decent this game. Something I can actually use to read somebody. all d1 Koshi was yelling at rels for being bad and keeping him as his second scumread. when rels was the lynch, Koshi was sitting on kruppe and crying out "a trollplayer isn't being helpful! lynch!" the association is so obvious... Koshi is "fine with lynching rels" but instead chooses to save him. scumteam is for sure rels/koshi/an inactive (sl? maybe) I would be totally fine with afk-voting the next two days and coming back when there are real decisions to make [/b]
Is this not the point you were referencing? Tumble is arguing that Koshi voted Kush to save his scum buddy, Rels.
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Grac are you a strong scum ?
(lie and I will find out)
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I mean in past games, not in this game because I suppose your answer is always "no" in this game p:
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On July 23 2016 05:10 Rels wrote:
Grac are you a strong scum ?
(lie and I will find out)
My mileage may vary. I have some strong scum games and some shitty scum games and none really in the middle.
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I think I can be pretty good when I want to be, but that could just be ego talking.
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On July 23 2016 05:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:06 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 05:04 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 05:02 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:51 Grackaroni wrote:On July 23 2016 04:49 Skynx wrote:On July 23 2016 04:47 Grackaroni wrote:On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.
emperor, haze, rels are always town. Now I'm confused. You're lynching Koshi because he didn't have the balls to lynch Rels, but you think Rels is town? Are you reading the thread at all? If you have been, you know why i wanna lynch Koshi...... For the reason I just said. You're lynching him for lynching Kush without reason instead of Rels. But why is that scummy if Rels is town? No he swapped from Kruppe to kush. Rels wasn't involved at all. He said he was scared to vote Rels. Thats why Tumble's point is interesting. Are you now walking back your town read of Rels? It's impossible to talk to you. Where the fuck did you draw that from what I wrote please tell me. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:09 Tumblewood wrote:guys I found rels's partner this guy On July 21 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 23:01 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
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how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read
you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.
??? No. Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read. I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it. He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL. Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes. I vote for Palmer. Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role. but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion you agree with this so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion but you are not scumreading emperorchampion it's literally what the post said??? ALSO why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here? prplhz, Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree. Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town. Palmar might very well be mafia. that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening. This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion. Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum??? I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with: ...
Really
... But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does... If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does. He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it. It's townie. HMM OKAY i know i should ignore Lunaticman for now but it's just so hard!!! Anyway, Palmar could be mafia. But we're not lynching him today. And if you're town, could be dead tomorrow. It's fine that you're pushing the idea that Palmar could be mafia but please don't push the idea that we should lynch him today. Fine. I can kill the eel as well. Or Rels. On July 22 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 05:19 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:page 8 townread: On July 12 2016 15:36 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe welcomes EmperorChampion, a true friend of Kruppe, to Kruppe's table. Sit, friend, and marvel in the sweetness, and sweet it is indeed, of Kruppe's friendship. next post. page 9 townread: On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,
I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.
Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.
DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.
[green]prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.
For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views? Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. next post. page 13 update on read: On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?
Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn! next post. page 22 scumread: On July 13 2016 22:21 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Alas, wisdom is obscured to those with (mayhaps feigned?) ignorant eyes.
Words are spoken of the traitor Snickers. One of many words yet now shrouded in silence. Kruppe admits to the peculiarity of such a phenomenon, a personality switched, a mouth stitched. Kruppe begs of thee, Snickers —if you are a true friend of Kruppe's—, sing loud and true!
Yet in the shadows sits KelsierSC, once prodded by friend Vivax's insight, still a convenient bystander. Kruppe asks of you —reader—, who may just be a true friend of Kruppe, do you consider Kelsier to be a friend? Kruppe raises his eyebrow with much vehemency! next post, page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 05:59 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe is somewhat conflicted, dear friends. It seems that Snickers simply stormed off in a fit of anger! How very uncharacteristic, indeed. When faced with peril, should we not show our true colors and shine bright? Mayhaps Snickers is a traitor in truth after all.
Yet, Kruppe's infinite wisdom prevails! Kelsier is not a true friend, but a traitor among us! It has been seen by bard Vivax before, but Kelsier has slipped through the myriad of conversations. Kelsier's display of opinion was the first impression —the most important of impression's, Kruppe would argue— given to us by undear Kelsier, and it has stayed that way. Our beloved bard had even spoken true of Kelsier's most interesting view; it was characterized by inconsistency! Alas, it is true that Kelsier could still be a friend after all. But, with finger both brazenly raised and wagging, Kruppe would argue that Kelsier has since not contributed his opinion at all! Most interesting, as this seemed to be an utmost priority at the very start!
Kruppe —with heavy heart, as your truest friend Kruppe is not one to resort to violence— will temporarily put down his left pastry (though the right pastry is still firmly grasped) to point a finger at Kelsier. next post page 23, scumread: On July 14 2016 06:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Though if Snickers does not show up for a most rousing of conversation, then Kruppe will not oppose the ousting of Snickers.
Alas, at is stands your dearest friend Kruppe has some important business to attend to. Your most interesting conversations will certainly be missed! Though Kruppe is sure he will hear of them. Those are all consecutive posts. Well constructed and easy to read. This game he is doing nothing of that. The only read post he gave was the last one. Which he made to get people of his back. The envelope post was terrible vague. It even appears the red envelopes were his townreads and the blue ones were scumreads. How the fuck? That is the opposite as his previous game because there even though he roleplayed his reads were clear. This game he is hiding behind the roleplaying to minimize giving out reads. He isn't a lock mafia. But if we want to lynch a guy who has given town nothing, plays under his capabilities and plays meta different than his last town game. Kruppe is always the lynch. OK. I see your point. DC is still a better lynch No he isn't at all. Ok. You decided to be completely useless this game. Ignored for the rest of the game. Will push your lynch when possible. Insane how you haven't said anything remotely decent this game. Something I can actually use to read somebody. all d1 Koshi was yelling at rels for being bad and keeping him as his second scumread. when rels was the lynch, Koshi was sitting on kruppe and crying out "a trollplayer isn't being helpful! lynch!" the association is so obvious... Koshi is "fine with lynching rels" but instead chooses to save him. scumteam is for sure rels/koshi/an inactive (sl? maybe) I would be totally fine with afk-voting the next two days and coming back when there are real decisions to make Is this not the point you were referencing? Tumble is arguing that Koshi voted Kush to save his scum buddy, Rels. [/b]
Ah I ser now sry for tone. I'm not sure about that, I don't have an explanation of motive behind Koshi's vote. All i know is that way of just "ok I guess kush might be scum w/e" vote is impossible for Koshi to cast. Every itch of his senses would be fighting analyse the candidates to find the best possible lynch in that scenario and kush wasn't the one.
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On July 23 2016 05:11 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:10 Rels wrote:
Grac are you a strong scum ?
(lie and I will find out) My mileage may vary. I have some strong scum games and some shitty scum games and none really in the middle.
K. Cause I'm rereading EOD1 and this psot is super townie:
On July 22 2016 06:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Let the WAGON OF JUSTICE commence!
First I was ignored.
Then I was suspected.
But now my wisdom has shown through.
let justice prevail.
Down with the scoundrel!
##Vote: Kushm4sta
I mean, it got a townie killed, but you were the main force behind kush's lynch. Scum usually are more careful being the main point of attention.
I've got to meta you to see if it's in your scum wheelhouse then.
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On July 22 2016 22:34 Koshi wrote:
a fear kill is almost always coming from Rels or sicklucker here.
Palmar dieing is really odd anyway.. I think there were obvious townies in the thread. Palmar really was not one of them.
i agree I said the same thing koshi but said you or rels and then I said probably.
its probably rels....
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Rels do you still think DCwasabi is scum?
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On July 23 2016 05:14 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 22:34 Koshi wrote:
a fear kill is almost always coming from Rels or sicklucker here.
Palmar dieing is really odd anyway.. I think there were obvious townies in the thread. Palmar really was not one of them. i agree I said the same thing koshi but said you or rels and then I said probably. its probably rels....
yo bro
it's not
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On July 23 2016 05:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Rels do you still think DCwasabi is scum?
Yeah. He did nothing to explain his wasteful posts at the very end of D1. Actually he continued talking about it.
And him coming back to the thread 20 minutes before deadline when the votes were 4-3 is suspicious too.
Tumble is asking to get lynched though. I think he decided to play "too scummy to be scum" and just mindlessly tunnel on people and posting anything.
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Sicklucker, explain your Kush vote. First you voted me because you didn't like my Kush vote. Then you voted Kush because he was voting for you. I get that you thought it was strange that he created something of a vote triangle, but it doesn't look good now considering the circumstances.
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FUCK IT, can't we just lynch Koshi then, if he flips scum we will have loads to build on. If he flipps town I don't know though.
I am honestly pretty lost today.
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Skynx, Grac is very townie. Even the way he's interrogating your is townie.
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On July 23 2016 05:20 Lunaticman wrote:
FUCK IT, can't we just lynch Koshi then, if he flips scum we will have loads to build on. If he flipps town I don't know though.
I am honestly pretty lost today.
Why is Koshi scum ?
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On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me. I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e. I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made. I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush. That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi. I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it. Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates.
people have been lynched for less... kush played pretty poorly he called 10 people scum and built no town circle and voted a town out of spite because he thought it would be funny to mislynch me
like lol you need to calm down your going on a rampage here your going to mislynch ALOT of people in your life
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On July 23 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:+ Show Spoiler +You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them. His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter. This is his opinion on kush, the only one. On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that. Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face. Then grack starts the train. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible. On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched. On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW? No. I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum. Why is Kush town? He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never. On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?
I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/ Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc There are also other stuff. To answer the case on me. I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e. I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made. I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are: a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game. alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush. That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi. I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it. Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates. people have been lynched for less... kush played pretty poorly he called 10 people scum and built no town circle and voted a town out of spite because he thought it would be funny to mislynch me like lol you need to calm down your going on a rampage here your going to mislynch ALOT of people in your life
Didn't you vote for me for using reasoning similar to this on Kush?
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