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On July 12 2016 14:31 DCWasabi wrote: In Bavarian I was 95% sure you were scum and you ended up being town... so I won't snap judgment without sufficient evidence this time, lol. What made you believe kush was scum in Bavarian? | ||
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On July 12 2016 14:47 DCWasabi wrote: There were 2 reasons I thought he was scum which started early on. #1) He seemed to be going after me the whole game unduly and I knew I was town then too. So, I thought that there was a greater chance that he was Mafia and had that perfect information. It was my first game ever, so I now realize that I may have looked scummy? #2) He seemed to be giving town cred to Prp and setting him up for success early with comments about how he is often mislynched and noting that he had more activity so far this game and that should help him not get lynched etc... This association stayed in my mind the whole game, and I thought that Prp was Mafia too, so that only heightened my suspicions of Kush. I thought that they were both Mafia. These ideas probably clouded my judgement for a lot of the game... but I learned a lot that game and I am going to be a better asset for the town this game and try to use as much #logic as I can. You were sort of scummy, kinda reminded me of myself rolling scum in my 1st game. Altho kinda different at key points which made me think you were town, I dunno maybe kush was tunneled on you for some reason but he could pick out me being scum out of other newbies in that game. | ||
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On July 12 2016 15:08 DCWasabi wrote: The alternative is that he is saying that nobody in this game "has a name", therefore the townies must be "no-named". That could be considered rude but not necessarily scummy. So that is also a possibility... but my senses are a bit piqued still. Any thoughts on this? He just pointed out the lack of more established lynch-bannermen in this game. He can scumhunt but he can't convince town for a lynch, I feel kinda similar. Some people are really persuasive on the other hand and can get the entire town moving with one hand, like Koshi lets say. | ||
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On July 12 2016 15:22 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Aaai! My most enlightened message has fallen into the depths! Moosy? Is that you? | ||
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On July 12 2016 11:17 vorono wrote: i've played a bit on other sites. it, in addition to #72, sounds awkward like a mafia trying to fit in | ||
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On July 12 2016 23:24 Shapelog wrote: Your metaing off of one game, without seeing his mafia game. And he is being different from said game..... And your doing this, in a Onegu game, someone who hates people who try to meta off of 1 game/no playing against/not playing against scum!X. idk how he hasn't MK you yet. + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote: I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. On July 12 2016 14:53 Damdred wrote: The problem is a forced read. In what I quoted it's pointed out a couple of the problems where the thought process doesn't quite meet with reality. Ie, he did this one game and is doing this here. This sort of logical leap in itself is not a bad one at all, and it is one that someone who's trying to become better should make. And it is a good obaervation. However as pointed out this change in behavior should be more towards a scum sided or strictly neutral position than a neutral/town. But the read is forced through in an unnatural way to make him hi e town points to prp. It's semantics a bit but it is trying to give someone a town read just to seem like he's doing something. 2 other's saw it too. So clap. Yup, Slam. offchance Chez. Smurf solved. Hmmmm. Remind me someone for me to come back to this. Townie with a name comes off to me as a player with a rep. and someone he considers town. Just a guess tho. Might be chez. I know Chez like to friend do to his house of Chez guide. Woah how dare you totally ignore me I already labelled him Chez. | ||
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On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote: I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape. Yeah internet sucks at home for a while now, I'll be more active during midday. On July 13 2016 09:36 DCWasabi wrote: Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers Scummy: Emp, Prplhz, Skynx We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices. For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)... + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote: I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game. This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town! This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game. For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far. For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful. You have like almost identical activity to me at beginning of the day. In addition to that, why is kush, kruppe and snickers all nulls when I'm scum? Again almost same activity level. | ||
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On July 13 2016 07:42 prplhz wrote: i need to shower and my foot is FUCKED just gonna vote for DCWasabi ##Vote DCWasabi Noted as vote with absolute no basis or interaction what so ever. | ||
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On July 13 2016 04:05 Vivax wrote: Nowhere is explained how their alignments would help figuring out the scum team. One hour later he "wanted more opinions on them". He wants to lynch him because his push is weak. And still nobody knows how their alignments would solve the game. These are all not arguments for voron being mafia. For any town person he should be at best null, on a D1. When LS gets heat on him he intensifies the tunnel and adds another argument (bolded) that makes vorono at best more afk, not more mafia and was never part of his original arguments to begin with. To me it just looks like he's desperately trying to push attention away from himself by doing this. Caution meta and tone ahead this won't be even up for debate for me cause I don't even need this argument to explain why he's mafia (if you have rebuttals then adress my other points thanks) , but if you accept meta as a reason and are acquainted with LS then it might convince you. + Show Spoiler + I don't even know why a town LS would add a "fuck it" in here when he's being suspected by 1 or 2 persons. When he's town he doesn't get this aggressive (heard about some lylo madness somewhere but that's not the same context). He actually tries to find out why he's being scumread and stuff, check this page of his filter from Holyflare mafia which 1. is recent, 2. has him as mafia's D1 target and he's being suspected by townies as well. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia?user=LightningStrike&page=3 Simply compare his reaction to Palmar, HF etc. to the reaction here. I highly doubt I will lynch anyone else today. Summed up pretty much all I was thinking about LS at that particular time. Good, constructive push. Shape agreeing to this also noted. | ||
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Prolly maybe town: emp, vorono Nulls divided into three categories: Total afk/uselessness border: kush, kruppe, snickers Needs very careful re-reading with context: KSC, Damdred, haze Pure null: DCW | ||
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On July 13 2016 18:43 DCWasabi wrote: Can't sleep, time to scumhunt. This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same. I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12. However, you only had 2 of these posts that weren't one liners / had even a bit of substance. One of them was about last game, lol. The other was just clarifying / giving your interpretation of a Prplhz post, a guy who has 3 posts fingering me already this game out of like ~21 if I counted right total posts, and is on my radar. 9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game. You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2? Then, neither of us posted until I came back at post 387 and you at post 406. At this juncture you posted some more 1 liner / low content posts until you posted a read list finally... I guess in response to me saying you were scummy? Meanwhile, I post things like this post. So, don't say we had the same activity level D1. Town can pop both filters open and compare. And, as to the others that had low activity, which I read as null... they weren't even trying to blend in, so I didn't assign a scummy slant to them... yet. Furthermore, they have quite less activity than you, not the same lol. So this is also not true. How can you say for acitvity that: DCWasabi ~ Skynx ~ Snickers, is that for real? So, is DCWasabi ~ Snickers??? I agree with Vivax that Skynx seems different too, anyone want to discuss this, agree / disagree with what I am saying here? ##Vote: Skynx Meh w/e. You will get over these in time. Interesting how you left out kush/kruppe from your reasoning. I don't want to lynch kush but Kruppe posts are 100% jack shit while Snickers only posted like two things. I'm not gona argue over my activity here I think anyone can see I was trying to progress the game on most of them rather than banter. I think you can draw that line just fine as well so your intentions here are noted. Also this part is funny: On July 13 2016 18:43 DCWasabi wrote: This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same. I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12. ... 9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game. You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2? | ||
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On July 13 2016 19:39 prplhz wrote: Like Snickers isn't even participating. Just looking at his past games he's considerably more active as town than as scum. I know we're barely 1 day into the game but I think this is the best thing we've got. I'm not buying Skynx scum just yet. I'm down for a lynch between Snickers/Kruppe. You know what just throw in Voro there aswell if people are convinced. I'm think he's town cuz that kind of non-reasoned tunnel on emp as a maf is soooooo risky like. 1st two are better lynches for today, Voro is at least trying. | ||
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 It's gotta be snickers at this point. Don't let this be a no-lynch emp I have faith in you. Oh and if he comes in and pulls out a sicklucker I might just flip tables tomorrow. | ||
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On July 14 2016 05:19 DCWasabi wrote: If nobody else thinks Skynx is scummy I could certainly hop on a Policy Lynch for activity, with Snickers being the obvious candidate so far, followed by that weird Kruppe guy? Or else, somebody can make a great post and sell me on voro, because I am having trouble reading that guy still. On lunch break now, be back later. You as well I guess, why waste your vote since you are aware of it? | ||
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Not much of an indicator in this situation cuz D1 vote should be super easy as scum in majority. Altho he might be thinking of lategame and jumping on kush last min would come back to bite him later on. Or he might be having internet issues. | ||
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You disappoint me. | ||
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On July 14 2016 20:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: we probably should have just lynched him. How I think of chezinu like players is this: Do I like his reads? For Kruppe it seems like the roleplay is an excuse not to have reads. Either of Kruppe/Snickers we could have killed. Like literally no reason not to. I dunno whats wrong with Chez tho its my 2nd game with him and he's the candidate for plynch at D2. Anyway you did your part. I'm awaiting dodgers to come and explain their last min antics. | ||
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On July 14 2016 22:10 KelsierSC wrote: Going to take this opportunity to say I don't post at night so asking me questions is pointless. I'm sure you can ask me tomorrow Checking database is not that hard you know. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?user=KelsierSC&page=5 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?user=KelsierSC&page=9 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490661-mini-mafia-down-under-3?user=KelsierSC&page=3 I could prolly go further but you get the idea. This could be your lazy game I respect that but you can't dodge with stuff like this by bullshitting. | ||
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You got any non-bragging rights reads kush? What about you voro? I refuse to believe all americas are busy on a thursday. | ||
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We should be just hanging everyone switching to kush 1by1 cuz it was soooo obvious. Which way shall we go then, KSC or Snickers? | ||
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On July 15 2016 14:24 DCWasabi wrote: Looking at these along with shape, mostly agree... long post from my phone lol. Wouldnt it make sense that mafia is only hiding in the Kush voters if Snickers is Mafia? If Snickers is town, then I believe that they could join the bandwagon since lynching a town Snickers would not appear scummy due to his lack of activity. And the vote was pretty close with players like me possibly returning at the last second (and mafia know I'm town). If Snickers is Mafia, then of course they don't want to Lynch him, unless he was being bussed, but I find that unlikely because how the fuck did that vote not pass if mafia is voting him too, a few unforseen life circumstances aside, lol + O's Razor. Or is it deeper than this? I don't want to get outplayed by some scum mastermind (cough, shape, cough). Basically, 5 votes went through on Snickers. With KSC and emp originally on the wagon aswell, he would've been lynched. Now if he's town, I think they are not too bothered about it but a no-lynch is better for them and switching 1-2 votes is fine. The lazy votes last min kinda look like that. If he's mafia, they absolutely have to have come up with better reasoning for switching away from him cuz it will come back to bite them later on. Also, 1 of them might be misguided town for whatever reason. | ||
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Lets go by the facts to start On July 14 2016 22:51 emperorchampion wrote: I know, I'm sorry I was going to switch near the end, but I honestly lost track of time Vote switch happened approx 30 mins to deadline (8:00 being deadline in the timestamp here) On July 14 2016 07:32 emperorchampion wrote: ##unvote ##vote nnn_thekushmountains However, he was most certainly here on the deadline. He could, if he wanted switched back to Snickers. On July 14 2016 08:01 emperorchampion wrote: Damdy what do you think about kush's scum lean on you? But anyway, why did he switched votes still? He knows his priorities: On July 14 2016 06:54 emperorchampion wrote: Personally I think that kush would be a better lynch since I didn't like his posts and I've found that snickers is straight up null so far. Like I would expect more from kush even from his low effort games. kush > snickers > vorono >> no-lynch are my thoughts atm I guess you meta'd snickers saying that he's active tho? but yet On July 14 2016 07:46 emperorchampion wrote: I don't see anyone :o All 5 votes on snickers were locked btw, he's never convincing them to switch. So he needs to get absolutely everyone else to switch which very hard at best as Shape/vorono/Kruppe have been away for a while and is anyway impossible since DCW was confirmed not to be there. He looks like best lynch to me before we get key information on KSC. Snickers flipping either alignment doesn't change much considering other two, where as if one of them is mafia, Snickers is confirmed mafia. If they're not, we're wasting a lynch on Snickers. | ||
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You know what to do.Sorry you rolled mafia 3/3 of your games btw emp lol | ||
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On July 15 2016 15:19 DCWasabi wrote: Do you see a disadvantage to starting with somebody other than Snickers, for example emp? I can answer that since I'm actually so focused on the matter right now lol. Yes there is. As a matter of fact, if there is 2 mafia in the trio, then Snickers is 100% mafia cuz both scum wont be risking that much switching 2 votes on a town to swap from ml to no-l last min. How not lynching him is totally advantageous is a different story. Snickers vote is not alignment indicative since he should be trying to save hiss ass as either alignments. So if we lynch Snickers and he flips red, we still have to decide between two. If flips green, we still have to decide between two. Meanwhile we lynch KSC/emp and he flips red, we immediately kill snickers. If he flips green, we kill other one and if that one flips green we never kill snickers. | ||
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On July 16 2016 02:53 prplhz wrote: this is a really nice post now please vote for Snickers Why? | ||
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On July 16 2016 02:05 KelsierSC wrote: Might post today but probably not Sure. Are you ever gona post? | ||
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On July 16 2016 03:41 emperorchampion wrote: I think vivax makes the best point here: There is no point in his best point you mean. I explained over entire last page why you/KSC is a better lynch than snickers. So i ask again, why should we lynch snickers over you two? | ||
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On July 16 2016 04:34 prplhz wrote: because we're lynching into kush' list and kush specifically said that KSC was town and that snickers was scum why did some lurker even survive d1 is beyond me but you guys need to just help make something happen instead of each and every one of you doing your own thing Each of us doing our thing yeah sure. I specifically explained my ass off why emp is a better lynch. It makes more sense to me to trust logic instead of "he said he's scum so lets lynch him". Vote emp or make more sense. I'm not switching my vote unless I'm convinced. Also no one gives a fuck about this game anyway by the looks of it so w/e, I might aswell be afk for the weekend. | ||
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On July 16 2016 04:45 Vivax wrote: You're wrong people give a fuck about this game but since some guys made sure we couldn't lynch snickers we're stuck at groundhog day and there's nothing else to do besides trying to lynch him again. If you want movement to come into the game then start making cases for snickers being town (if you want someone else lynched) cause everything else is uninteresting and won't change the fact he has to be lynched. Snickers town is very unlikely. Him over emp/KSC is a bad lynch if you wanna know why read the thread. | ||
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On July 16 2016 06:36 KelsierSC wrote: To explain what happened EOD, I read over the game and thought that Kush was kind of scummy as was snickers. I believe Snickers was due to not being that active and other people voting him so I wasn't 100% committed to it. Then Kush made some really scummy post and voted for snickers. I decided that kush would be a better lynch and that kush voting snickers made Snickers more likely town so no lynch would be better than a townie being lynched. Obviously I was wrong about Kush so Snickers being lynched would have been better but hey ho. wrong wrong wrong. You only move away from a lynch if they are hardcore confirmed town. These to me were Vivax and Shape D1. | ||
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On July 16 2016 07:35 Snickers wrote: Theres no way there is not a fucking scum on me right now. These votes just pile on when 1. there isnt even a fucking case on me. 2. There has only been shitty reasons for voting me. You dont fucking policy lynch someone for inactivity day one. You dont fucking continue to go full tunnel into day two like prp is. I have a town circle right now of me vivax, slam and dc. That leaves ec,prp and ksc. I am down to lynch anyone of them today. I am also going to relook at the votes day one that piled on so easily. ec was scummy day one before the deadline. So even if that was a mistake during the deadline that sucks for him. IIRC prp has tunneled me and constantly shit up the thread. ksc I have no clue about. I also think skynx is scum I will analyze it more and give it a full post 1. Case was that you were not playing at all. 2. Yes you do, in fact with the lack of information we had on D1, polich lynch for activity is the best lynch possible. No you don't get to create a town circle, you're not town. | ||
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On July 16 2016 14:16 Snickers wrote: [b]Shape log started the game super active and then didnt even vote day one. He was talking about consolidation early in the game and then didnt even vote. Guess who is the other person who talked about consolidation and didnt do it? ec. Skynx seems to be obsessed with people who switched votes but almost completly ignores shapes no vote, In conclusion, both are scum. [spoiler] Honestly I am fucking confused[/spoiler]/b] Open up page 28 of the game cause this will make this easier. #541 why does skynx call out dc,ksc and ec on not consolidating. But then defends shape in #542. I dont think dc and ksc were talking about consolidation, but damdred ec and shape were talking about it super early in the game. Further down the page skynx talks about how he wants explanations from the "dodgers". Go to page 29. I dont understand how shape comes into the game and barely acknowledges his no vote.He mentions being afk He also does this weird fucking vig claim like a scum team is going to swap a kill in forty minutes. Below is a quote of skynx. I dont understand how skynx constantly ignores shape. And here is this final gem. This just seems very manipulative. Shapelog fits this post 1000x better than ec. Ec may have missed the deadline. He even posted after it. multiple people do that every game. But not voting when you specifically talk about it earlier in the game and your active as fuck?? Two minor things below in spoiler. [spoiler] I dont like how the two people called me scummy for not voting myself on day one was shape and skynx. yes you read that correctly. Also they keep talking about killing x y z and associative flips. Trying to plan the game.[/spoiler] Overall Skynx play is not adding up. Shapes play looks worst than ec. I am not buying shapes recent post. He made some huge fucking post just listing a bunch of possibilites. The one below that one might be better I am to tired to check. I fucking see a ec, skynx and shape team. I think the bus is on ec since his fuck up is so noticeable. I dont know who brought up ecs vote. Buts its prty easy to says lets vote the people who fell off the snickers wagon and also looked scummy day one. I am having hard time figuring out why so many people want to make me and ec the possible wagons and not ec and shape. I dont understand how I got to five votes yesterday and four today. I don't want to break your heart by saying hurtful stuff but if you genuinely believe this you are so bad. I accuse Shape on 542. I did not push further for any of dodgers, why are you singling out Shape? bolded: You are just plain wrong here. We have no information on how Shape is being intentionally scummy cuz he wasn't here. We do have information that Emp is lying cuz he posted few seconds after EoD, he made it so clead he agrees no-lynch is not better, he swapped votes 30 mins be4 EoD, he said he lost track of time. fucking see a ec, skynx and shape team. I think the bus is on ec since his fuck up is so noticeable. I dont know who brought up ecs vote. Guess what, I did. No one was even scumreading emp. I brought it up, I made the case and i got an instant vote on it. If you have any functioning senses left you would see there is no way I'm scum with emp or you're just pure delusional. Or you're scum, being intentionally wrong (like emp hihi) and look like you are trying to make sense. | ||
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On July 16 2016 23:19 vorono wrote: i apologize for lurking and doing nothing, i didn't actually read most pages to be honest shapelog, so i'm going to get engaged with the game now. but it is hard with no avatars next to posts. tl;dr list of my thoughts: town: djwasabi, snickers, prplhz, damdred, shapelog not sure: skynx, kruppe, kelsiersc scum: empoleon, vivax + Show Spoiler + prplhz push on snickers is done in a townie way even though i disagree. On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote: Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lolI think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow this is a scumtell, townreading someone for wifom because he knows that prp is town. it's like, the reason that he gave is actually null and could be used to support prp being either alignment, but he has confbias from knowing that prp is town. dj wasabi townie for questioning it, damdred also townie #120 is a good point On July 12 2016 15:00 Skynx wrote: I'd wait til 2nd half of D1 to read emp. idk if this is particularly out of place for this site but this reads like unnecessary posturing, why would you even need to say this it achieves nothing why not read emp in the 1st half of d1 anyway literally me rn On July 12 2016 22:39 emperorchampion wrote: I dunno this guy stinks, but lynch me for generating 3 pages of discussion and starting the game right? this is terrible and weak-defensive, i was the only one voting him at this point On July 12 2016 22:40 Shapelog wrote: Hi Guys! Mafioso Scum (fake?)Claim for now, till I catch up. Might change it up to a town or higher ranked mafia role (fake?)claim, depending on how the thread makes me feel. shapelog seems like the kind of guy who would say things like this always to make it difficult to work out his intentions vivax entrance is... meh On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. lol wtf is this he asked some null af early game probing question that is so easily done as either alignment. completely unwarrranted read On July 12 2016 23:07 Shapelog wrote: And just gone again. And he doesn't react to anyone (or LS more to the point) of calling the Emp post Null, despite being around. I would expect someone to at least be questionable about the person who is defending/white knighting someone that they consider scum. Not just ignore it. Then just coming back 2 hours later (if he left, I mean that post came 12 mins after Emp's), and just calling the guy scum again. yeah i kind of didn't read shit lol. i don't care if he calls the post null, tone reads are subjective and i'm ok with it. On July 12 2016 23:18 Vivax wrote: This comment doesn't really seem relevant? Feels to me like you're avoiding giving a more concrete opinion on KSC even though I might have given you a good reason to. this is bs doubtcasting, ur scum bro sounds townie and eh i can understand why he would dislike my earlier posting. On July 13 2016 00:44 emperorchampion wrote: Feels pretty bs/weak so I have a good feeling that he could be scum. Doesn't feel like reaction testing or anything like that so I don't know other reasons scummy On July 13 2016 01:15 Vivax wrote: Wut. The KSC read was about Damdys convo with emc. I think this is mafia LS, too many nervous posts + he's making stuff up here imo. this post sounds wrong... the "wut" doesn't sound like a scumread, kind of On July 13 2016 01:24 emperorchampion wrote: @ Vivax: what do you make of this LS post where he answers his own question? Maybe it's nothing but it feels weird to me why would you ask this vivax is already scumreading lightning strike, it makes me think more they could be scum together shapelog trolling i initially scumread the post in isolation but eh, the rest of his play is pretty townie and i think he just does this kind of thing as either alignment. On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern? Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn! "what happened to vivax i expect more content"? kinda meh post after the previous one, he's only focusing on vivax for some reason On July 13 2016 02:04 emperorchampion wrote: I think it makes sense to vote voronoi atm, so that's what Im going to do. ##vote vorono what a stupid and unnecessary qualification for a vote, basically raw opportunism and he has never stated a scumread on me. only in weak / vague terms at least On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote: LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim? On July 13 2016 03:13 Vivax wrote: And you think this is a description of my scum play or my town play? Your taunts are clearly showing that you were thinking of me as town. oh god, this is such a fucking terrible "gotcha", fucking awful. this guy is scum i was right maybe nobody else sees how disgusting this is but it's just so bad. like he set up lightning swift to fall into the trap rather than being transparent about it. it's all for show. trivial On July 13 2016 04:23 Vivax wrote: Maybe you're right but if you're right then only cause you're mafia with one of them. Otherwise nobody can say that for sure. They didn't both claim the same role or anything like that. Spamming insults doesn't make you look more town by the way. In Holyflare mafia you didn't do that when under suspicion. saying "it doesn't make you look more town" shows a disconnect between vivax's opinions and the stances he posts in thread it is basically acknowledging that lightning sprite obvtowned himself by being insulting (and he did), and shoving it aside. On July 13 2016 04:50 Damdred wrote: Idk what the point of this is ls if you are town. Vivax accusations are founded on things that actually happened. If you disagree explain why he's wrong, you throwing a temper tantrum just kinda reminds me of millionaire at this point. No real reason for rage or the sudden turn in attitude from nobody will ever lynch you to you being an easy ml? even though it's wrong, in comparison this is actual reasoning for why lightning s could be scum, it's distinct from vivax's post because: vivax: "oh this doesn't clear you as town btw sorry i can still mislynch you" damdred: "this is scummy" (missed a few pages because i closed browser without saving into text file) i take back everything i said about shapelog, my reasoning was bad and i was reading those posts out of context. i think shapelog is town On July 13 2016 07:47 Vivax wrote: Not sure if I should treat LS as modconfirmed town, but I will and otherwise the game is invalid. i get why he says this but the transition is rather sudden and he seems otherwise unfazed which is scummy after tunneling him so hard On July 14 2016 07:13 KelsierSC wrote: don't care I have just hated everything you've posted vaguely townie + Show Spoiler + On July 15 2016 15:04 Skynx wrote: Either way, at least one of KSC/Snickers/emp is mafia for sure and I just don't see emperor ever being town here: Lets go by the facts to start On July 14 2016 22:51 emperorchampion wrote: I know, I'm sorry I was going to switch near the end, but I honestly lost track of time Vote switch happened approx 30 mins to deadline (8:00 being deadline in the timestamp here) On July 14 2016 07:32 emperorchampion wrote: ##unvote ##vote nnn_thekushmountains However, he was most certainly here on the deadline. He could, if he wanted switched back to Snickers. On July 14 2016 08:01 emperorchampion wrote: Damdy what do you think about kush's scum lean on you? But anyway, why did he switched votes still? He knows his priorities: On July 14 2016 06:54 emperorchampion wrote: Personally I think that kush would be a better lynch since I didn't like his posts and I've found that snickers is straight up null so far. Like I would expect more from kush even from his low effort games. kush > snickers > vorono >> no-lynch are my thoughts atm I guess you meta'd snickers saying that he's active tho? but yet On July 14 2016 07:46 emperorchampion wrote: I don't see anyone :o All 5 votes on snickers were locked btw, he's never convincing them to switch. So he needs to get absolutely everyone else to switch which very hard at best as Shape/vorono/Kruppe have been away for a while and is anyway impossible since DCW was confirmed not to be there. He looks like best lynch to me before we get key information on KSC. Snickers flipping either alignment doesn't change much considering other two, where as if one of them is mafia, Snickers is confirmed mafia. If they're not, we're wasting a lynch on Snickers. i don't think it's as clear-cut as you think it looks On July 16 2016 00:36 emperorchampion wrote: So Skynx is town, there's no way mafia makes that post. But you are very wrong about me. this is comparable to the post he made earlier reading prplhz as town for pure wifom, and also a scumtell this is objectively the scummiest post in the thread! On July 16 2016 07:35 Snickers wrote: Theres no way there is not a fucking scum on me right now. These votes just pile on when 1. there isnt even a fucking case on me. 2. There has only been shitty reasons for voting me. You dont fucking policy lynch someone for inactivity day one. You dont fucking continue to go full tunnel into day two like prp is. I have a town circle right now of me vivax, slam and dc. That leaves ec,prp and ksc. I am down to lynch anyone of them today. I am also going to relook at the votes day one that piled on so easily. ec was scummy day one before the deadline. So even if that was a mistake during the deadline that sucks for him. IIRC prp has tunneled me and constantly shit up the thread. ksc I have no clue about. I also think skynx is scum I will analyze it more and give it a full post townie post, snickers is town anyway i ran out of words let's lynch empoleon? ppl are hard townreading vivax which is sad but otherwise i would lynch him So many things wrong about this post. prplhz push on snickers is done in a townie way even though i disagree. On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote: Show nested quote + Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow this is a scumtell, townreading someone for wifom because he knows that prp is town. it's like, the reason that he gave is actually null and could be used to support prp being either alignment, but he has confbias from knowing that prp is town. dj wasabi townie for questioning it, damdred also townie #120 is a good point All of these are very weak. We just started the game there this is NAI at best, ofc the reason is null cuz nothing actually happened. Damdreds post is not good either, he's like just pointing the obvious.. On July 12 2016 15:00 Skynx wrote: I'd wait til 2nd half of D1 to read emp. idk if this is particularly out of place for this site but this reads like unnecessary posturing, why would you even need to say this it achieves nothing I played with emp the only 2 games he played on this site, 1st of them I was scum with him. I have a better idea than most people how he plays, I knew from very early on he was scum in 2nd game. My opinion matters on the issue so its not useless. Also go back your filter and see if you can point out how many useless posts you have. If you also really wanted to point out a useless post of mine, there are far better options. You know what this just takes too long cuz you make so many bad reasonings for your points. 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On July 14 2016 06:48 Damdred wrote: We have like an hour to go and still no majority, whether we lynch snickers isn't important or not. Whats important is we have a lynch today. So if anyone has a strong lynch idea its important that its in thread so we can discuss it and move our votes if need be, but right now a plynch is what we have so we need to make it majority. I like this a lot. Plus you being here all thru EoD helps aswell. You're not getting lynched for a while. That being said you need to post more reads man. You have only gave townreads to 3 ppl so far thats it. What do you think of emp/ksc/snickers? And others ofc. | ||
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On July 15 2016 07:42 Vivax wrote: Shooting snickers is the play here. If he's mafia we can already narrow down the suspects to the ones voting kush. He knows whats up. But pretty much the same, post reads. | ||
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On July 13 2016 18:50 KelsierSC wrote: No time this morning ##vote Snickers Place holder vote. see you all later Easy towncred for you had he got lynched but no reasoning at all. Lazy vote #1. On July 14 2016 07:10 KelsierSC wrote: ##unvote ##Vote: nnn_thekushmountains Lazy vote #2. You posted it in reaction to this: On July 14 2016 07:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: If he's scum? Because he's going to get lunched any way. For the cred. If he's town which he probably is? Because he's town. And you reason yourself by this: On July 14 2016 07:13 KelsierSC wrote: don't care I have just hated everything you've posted I wasn't super tr'ing kush myself but him being a better lynch material than Snickers is total nonesense, you should know this by now. Not even mentioning you'd never ever get a majority on him. On July 14 2016 22:10 KelsierSC wrote: Going to take this opportunity to say I don't post at night so asking me questions is pointless. I'm sure you can ask me tomorrow lazy #3 On July 16 2016 02:05 KelsierSC wrote: Might post today but probably not lazy #4 I'm insisting on these because everyone (except snickers mind you) are saying why they might be gona or not posting for a while. You could easily say 'oh busy day' or something along the lines so you let town know but you don't. On July 16 2016 06:36 KelsierSC wrote: To explain what happened EOD, I read over the game and thought that Kush was kind of scummy as was snickers. I believe Snickers was due to not being that active and other people voting him so I wasn't 100% committed to it. Then Kush made some really scummy post and voted for snickers. I decided that kush would be a better lynch and that kush voting snickers made Snickers more likely town so no lynch would be better than a townie being lynched. Obviously I was wrong about Kush so Snickers being lynched would have been better but hey ho. This is plain wrong, anyone can't see whats wrong with this you should read mafia 101. On July 16 2016 07:12 KelsierSC wrote: Read the arguments back and forth, I like the Snickers lynch more. From a personal perspective using the idea that lynching me or EMP will confirm Snickers is very flawed. If snickers flips mafia it makes myself look like scum whereas my reason for switching was based on the way kush played. I'm kind of suspicous of this post Call me paranoid I guess. I feel that lynching snickers just gives us more information and in retrospect should have happened EOD1. With emperor I am not sure what to think, snickers flip will certainly give some more information but there is more to the game than vote logic. ##vote Snickers hahahahahahaha oh the irony. Anyway you don't need to vote for me, you can just kill me in the night. | ||
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On July 17 2016 03:36 Shapelog wrote: What is different from me and the people that need to set up with reads? Are you for real? Check your filter. | ||
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On July 17 2016 03:42 Shapelog wrote: Check it? Bitch I wrote my filter. Honestly, all I have stated recently is my sus. Do you even know who I consider town as of now? No. I didn't mean you post your reads necessarily but you are trying to solve the game enough. 5 pages most of which is useful stuff. You I won't lynch before lylo if game changing stuff don't happen. | ||
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On July 17 2016 03:58 Snickers wrote: Its skynx even reading the game. Ignore my day one play skynx and give me a legit reason why you want to lynch me. Then think about my day one play and realize I was one of the few fucking people who was here for deadline and actually consolidated. ##vote:skynx Your D1 play, oh you mean you wanting to lynch haze cuz he brought up your meta? Is that it? | ||
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On July 17 2016 04:17 Snickers wrote: No skynx I posted I would be here for the deadline. And I fucking voted and consolidated. I did something PRO FUCKING TOWN. When most people cant do that, and we are into day two >>> Snickers become active and thats a shit reason and its your only reason for voting me. And all I see is you two consistently lying. Too many fucking maybes and what ifs between you two. No it's not, your entire filter is reeking scum. Your reads are forced and wrong. | ||
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On July 17 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote: I'm back from foods with the wife. As for my reads Town: Damdred Vivax Dc (Tentative) EC Shape Nullish Sky Prp Snickers Keup Scummy: Kel It's kind of dumb that I have so many nulls. Like skyn is actually looking really good his latest posts so I don't think I want to Lynch him. In fact I might move him up because it looks so much and the tone feels like his town game now. I sort of like that read. The problem with the others is that I like the thought snickers put into some of the posts and it's probably the work he really didn't have to do if he was getting lynched anyway. Prp just doesn't seem to care and neither does k. I think I'd rather Lynch Kel today We'll lynch him tomorrow dw. | ||
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On July 16 2016 07:35 Snickers wrote: Theres no way there is not a fucking scum on me right now. These votes just pile on when 1. there isnt even a fucking case on me. 2. There has only been shitty reasons for voting me. You dont fucking policy lynch someone for inactivity day one. You dont fucking continue to go full tunnel into day two like prp is. I have a town circle right now of me vivax, slam and dc. That leaves ec,prp and ksc. I am down to lynch anyone of them today. I am also going to relook at the votes day one that piled on so easily. ec was scummy day one before the deadline. So even if that was a mistake during the deadline that sucks for him. IIRC prp has tunneled me and constantly shit up the thread. ksc I have no clue about. I also think skynx is scum I will analyze it more and give it a full post On July 16 2016 13:05 Snickers wrote: fucking formating w/e Obvious scummy people Ec- scummy shit day one, Everytime I reread him and voronos bull shit day one I cant make anything of it, Scummy Vote Ksc-scummy vote, I still dont see anything useful from him analysis wise. I think he might have said association lynchs are bad but most people know that its somewhat wifom. Null into scum. However in his big ass posts its all about me/shape/ec and sometimes haze. Only 1 line of explaining why KSC is scum, wonder why | ||
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We should start considering last scum here tho. This follwing is from Bavaria: On July 09 2016 06:56 Skynx wrote: Man i should stop tunelling townies that make 1 mistake :/ I feel more and more like emperor is the one I mistakenly tunnelled here and his responses were genuine. Vorono is scummy but is very out there and risky play if he's actually scum. I think Vivax needs a re-read. | ||
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On July 14 2016 22:10 KelsierSC wrote: Going to take this opportunity to say I don't post at night so asking me questions is pointless. I'm sure you can ask me tomorrow On July 16 2016 02:05 KelsierSC wrote: Might post today but probably not Don't act like you're king of morals or anything. You have to prove I'm wrong, not the other way around. I'm not the only one scumreading you and only reason you're alive is Snickers had to be lynched 1st. I can put together a case people with so but I don't think its even necessary here. | ||
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Never lynch town: DCW, prplhz, Damdred, Vivax, Shape Pretty much town: emperor Null: Kruppe Likely scum: Vorono Lynch now scum: Kelsier why vorono is scummy is obv. Kruppe's last min vote could be bussing but he's never mafia with ksc I'm pardonning emp for time being for my part In any case those 5 people at top should work together nn town | ||
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On July 18 2016 17:18 KelsierSC wrote: Don't know why snickers did that. I played atrociously but I had more fun than I normally do. Less time and emotional investment in the game helped me. Damdred played pretty beastly. Thanks for hosting onegu. Not your fault it ended this way. No hard feelings btw. I 100% thought you're mafia and when I'm tunneled there not a lot people can do :/ I'm working on it  | ||
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