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Any EU around? Easy day at work so I wanna chat shit for a bit.
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On July 12 2016 14:32 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:28 Skynx wrote:
Any EU around? Easy day at work so I wanna chat shit for a bit. I am Murica, but I'm here
Fakkin hell man get some sleep if you no do drugz.
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On July 12 2016 14:31 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That is p scummy but it also happens to be the truth. In Bavarian I was 95% sure you were scum and you ended up being town... so I won't snap judgment without sufficient evidence this time, lol.
What made you believe kush was scum in Bavarian?
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On July 12 2016 14:47 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:37 Skynx wrote:On July 12 2016 14:31 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 14:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That is p scummy but it also happens to be the truth. In Bavarian I was 95% sure you were scum and you ended up being town... so I won't snap judgment without sufficient evidence this time, lol. What made you believe kush was scum in Bavarian? There were 2 reasons I thought he was scum which started early on. #1) He seemed to be going after me the whole game unduly and I knew I was town then too. So, I thought that there was a greater chance that he was Mafia and had that perfect information. It was my first game ever, so I now realize that I may have looked scummy? #2) He seemed to be giving town cred to Prp and setting him up for success early with comments about how he is often mislynched and noting that he had more activity so far this game and that should help him not get lynched etc... This association stayed in my mind the whole game, and I thought that Prp was Mafia too, so that only heightened my suspicions of Kush. I thought that they were both Mafia. These ideas probably clouded my judgement for a lot of the game... but I learned a lot that game and I am going to be a better asset for the town this game and try to use as much #logic as I can.
You were sort of scummy, kinda reminded me of myself rolling scum in my 1st game. Altho kinda different at key points which made me think you were town, I dunno maybe kush was tunneled on you for some reason but he could pick out me being scum out of other newbies in that game.
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On July 12 2016 15:08 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town? Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that. Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names... How do you know who is a townie in this game? Is this a slip? The alternative is that he is saying that nobody in this game "has a name", therefore the townies must be "no-named". That could be considered rude but not necessarily scummy. So that is also a possibility... but my senses are a bit piqued still. Any thoughts on this?
He just pointed out the lack of more established lynch-bannermen in this game.
He can scumhunt but he can't convince town for a lynch, I feel kinda similar. Some people are really persuasive on the other hand and can get the entire town moving with one hand, like Koshi lets say.
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On July 12 2016 15:22 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! My most enlightened message has fallen into the depths!
Moosy? Is that you?
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Hmm, it's not quite Moosy. Chez maybe?
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Don't be hasty. What is your reasoning anyway besides this?
On July 12 2016 11:17 vorono wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 09:57 prplhz wrote:On July 12 2016 09:52 vorono wrote:On July 12 2016 09:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Also just wondering, how come you don't feel comfortable leading a lynch? And also what do you mean by "a townie with a name"? i voted you for this post On July 12 2016 09:48 prplhz wrote:On July 12 2016 09:47 vorono wrote:
hey are you a smurf no What's your mafia experience? Why do you wanna play on TL Mafia? What about that post makes you think emperorchampion is scum? i've played a bit on other sites. it, in addition to #72, sounds awkward like a mafia trying to fit in
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On July 12 2016 23:24 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow Your metaing off of one game, without seeing his mafia game. And he is being different from said game..... And your doing this, in a Onegu game, someone who hates people who try to meta off of 1 game/no playing against/not playing against scum!X. idk how he hasn't MK you yet. + Show Spoiler +On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. On July 12 2016 14:53 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:49 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 14:45 Damdred wrote:On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. Honestly you guys are missing the most important problem with emc post here. How can you post that and not tell us what you think we are missing, let's discuss it yo! The problem is a forced read. In what I quoted it's pointed out a couple of the problems where the thought process doesn't quite meet with reality. Ie, he did this one game and is doing this here. This sort of logical leap in itself is not a bad one at all, and it is one that someone who's trying to become better should make. And it is a good obaervation. However as pointed out this change in behavior should be more towards a scum sided or strictly neutral position than a neutral/town. But the read is forced through in an unnatural way to make him hi e town points to prp. It's semantics a bit but it is trying to give someone a town read just to seem like he's doing something. 2 other's saw it too. So clap. Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:57 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
A glorious morning. Rejoice, friends! Yup, Slam. offchance Chez. Smurf solved. Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 15:01 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 14:53 Damdred wrote:On July 12 2016 14:49 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 14:45 Damdred wrote:On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. Honestly you guys are missing the most important problem with emc post here. How can you post that and not tell us what you think we are missing, let's discuss it yo! The problem is a forced read. In what I quoted it's pointed out a couple of the problems where the thought process doesn't quite meet with reality. Ie, he did this one game and is doing this here. This sort of logical leap in itself is not a bad one at all, and it is one that someone who's trying to become better should make. And it is a good obaervation. However as pointed out this change in behavior should be more towards a scum sided or strictly neutral position than a neutral/town. But the read is forced through in an unnatural way to make him hi e town points to prp. It's semantics a bit but it is trying to give someone a town read just to seem like he's doing something. You took what didn't gel in my mind from his post and drew a pretty logical conclusion from it. I agree, it was a pretty big logical leap that didn't really need to be made. I am not going to TR anyone this early, game just started! Hmmmm. Remind me someone for me to come back to this. Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 15:04 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 09:06 prplhz wrote:On July 12 2016 09:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Who do I talk to to get someone lynched in this town? Just gotta muster up a big enough mob to get majority Yea but my problem is that I couldn't get someone lynched to save my life, I'd much rather someone else be the whip and do the brow beating. Usually I find a townie with a name but this game doesn't seem to have that. Wait a sec here, so this time all of the townies are no-names... How do you know who is a townie in this game? Is this a slip? Townie with a name comes off to me as a player with a rep. and someone he considers town. Just a guess tho. Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 15:22 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Aaai! My most enlightened message has fallen into the depths! Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 15:23 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Fear not, friends. Kruppe shall rewrite it. Your greatest friend indeed! Might be chez. I know Chez like to friend do to his house of Chez guide.
Woah how dare you totally ignore me I already labelled him Chez.
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On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape.
Yeah internet sucks at home for a while now, I'll be more active during midday.
On July 13 2016 09:36 DCWasabi wrote:Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers
Scummy: Emp, Prplhz, Skynx We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices. For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)... + Show Spoiler +On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game. This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town! This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game. For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far. For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful.
You have like almost identical activity to me at beginning of the day. In addition to that, why is kush, kruppe and snickers all nulls when I'm scum? Again almost same activity level.
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On July 13 2016 07:42 prplhz wrote:
i need to shower and my foot is FUCKED
just gonna vote for DCWasabi
##Vote DCWasabi
Noted as vote with absolute no basis or interaction what so ever.
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Anyway p4-6 emp vs voro is pretty tvt to me.
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On July 13 2016 04:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I think solving Voro and Emperors alignment wil be key on figuring out the scum team atm.
@Emperor what you make of Voro pushing you atm? Nowhere is explained how their alignments would help figuring out the scum team. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 01:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways if I have to lynch anyone right now it would be Voro because his push is very weak but I wanted more people's opinions on him and Emperor because like I said solving both of their alignments will solve the game. One hour later he "wanted more opinions on them". He wants to lynch him because his push is weak. And still nobody knows how their alignments would solve the game. These are all not arguments for voron being mafia. For any town person he should be at best null, on a D1. When LS gets heat on him he intensifies the tunnel and adds another argument (bolded) that makes vorono at best more afk, not more mafia and was never part of his original arguments to begin with. To me it just looks like he's desperately trying to push attention away from himself by doing this. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 01:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck it I voting my scum read now rather people think I right or wrong I don't give a fuck about it. Voro I think your scum because your push is super weak on Emperor and when I told you that the quote you quoted for voting him is NAI you refused to talk to me.
##Vote: vorono Caution meta and tone aheadthis won't be even up for debate for me cause I don't even need this argument to explain why he's mafia (if you have rebuttals then adress my other points thanks) , but if you accept meta as a reason and are acquainted with LS then it might convince you. + Show Spoiler +I don't even know why a town LS would add a "fuck it" in here when he's being suspected by 1 or 2 persons. When he's town he doesn't get this aggressive (heard about some lylo madness somewhere but that's not the same context). He actually tries to find out why he's being scumread and stuff, check this page of his filter from Holyflare mafia which 1. is recent, 2. has him as mafia's D1 target and he's being suspected by townies as well. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia?user=LightningStrike&page=3Simply compare his reaction to Palmar, HF etc. to the reaction here. I highly doubt I will lynch anyone else today.
Summed up pretty much all I was thinking about LS at that particular time. Good, constructive push.
Shape agreeing to this also noted.
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Likely town: Shape, Vivax
Prolly maybe town: emp, vorono
Nulls divided into three categories:
Total afk/uselessness border: kush, kruppe, snickers
Needs very careful re-reading with context: KSC, Damdred, haze
Pure null: DCW
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On July 13 2016 18:43 DCWasabi wrote:Can't sleep, time to scumhunt. Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 15:04 Skynx wrote:On July 13 2016 08:06 Vivax wrote:
I avoided talking about other stuff than LS so I can focus on one thing at a time. I wanted but refrained to talk a bit about Skynx. He seems different to me than in his last game at first glance. Less active and the posts feel different as well. Nothing more concrete until I do another dive though. I was too tunneled to really read much besides LS Damdred, volvo and shape. Yeah internet sucks at home for a while now, I'll be more active during midday. On July 13 2016 09:36 DCWasabi wrote:Town Reads: Wasabi, Damdred, Vivax Null: Shape, Kelsier, Vorono, Kush, Kruppe, Snickers
Scummy: Emp, Prplhz, Skynx We could Policy Lynch Snickers for 0 activity, but I feel like there are better choices. For EMP, I want to go back to this post of his (trying to defend his early logical leap)... + Show Spoiler +On July 12 2016 22:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2016 14:39 DCWasabi wrote:On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.
First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?
@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.
Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?
Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.
Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow I don't agree with this reasoning. You are saying that Prp tried to be more active last game than he usually is (and he was town), but it didn't work out well for him... so the fact that he is being passive here is an adjustment to that, indicating that he is town? I find that to be a bit of a stretch because if he is normally passive, then that would still be the best method for him to employ in order to blend in if he is Mafia. I don't think it points either way. I think you misinterpreted a little bit what I said, I'm comparing last game with this game. If you're getting scum read last game as a townie for doing things, it makes sense to me not to do those things as a townie this game. This clarification still makes no sense... As a mafia, you wouldn't do thoise things that got you scum read last game either! He would avoid those things regardless of alighment. Mafia want to avoid being scumread just as much as town! This has no bearing on whether prp is town or mafia this game. For Prp, mostly because he is tunneling me and I am town. Also, no useful contributions thus far. For Skynx, need more posts, but she could be posting just enough to try and avoid suspicion without contributing anything useful. You have like almost identical activity to me at beginning of the day. In addition to that, why is kush, kruppe and snickers all nulls when I'm scum? Again almost same activity level. This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same. I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12. However, you only had 2 of these posts that weren't one liners / had even a bit of substance. One of them was about last game, lol. The other was just clarifying / giving your interpretation of a Prplhz post, a guy who has 3 posts fingering me already this game out of like ~21 if I counted right total posts, and is on my radar. 9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game. You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2? Then, neither of us posted until I came back at post 387 and you at post 406. At this juncture you posted some more 1 liner / low content posts until you posted a read list finally... I guess in response to me saying you were scummy? Meanwhile, I post things like this post. So, don't say we had the same activity level D1. Town can pop both filters open and compare. And, as to the others that had low activity, which I read as null... they weren't even trying to blend in, so I didn't assign a scummy slant to them... yet. Furthermore, they have quite less activity than you, not the same lol. So this is also not true. How can you say for acitvity that: DCWasabi ~ Skynx ~ Snickers, is that for real? So, is DCWasabi ~ Snickers??? I agree with Vivax that Skynx seems different too, anyone want to discuss this, agree / disagree with what I am saying here? ##Vote: Skynx
Meh w/e. You will get over these in time. Interesting how you left out kush/kruppe from your reasoning. I don't want to lynch kush but Kruppe posts are 100% jack shit while Snickers only posted like two things. I'm not gona argue over my activity here I think anyone can see I was trying to progress the game on most of them rather than banter. I think you can draw that line just fine as well so your intentions here are noted.
Also this part is funny:
On July 13 2016 18:43 DCWasabi wrote:
This is flat out not true about our activity levels being about the same.
I had 14 posts between the start of the game and post 176 while you had 12.
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9-10 of these posts of mine were constructive (in my mind) / about the game.
You had how many that weren't banter, like 1-2?
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