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Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 27 2016 09:48 GMT
#1161
On June 27 2016 18:41 Superbia wrote:
Our egos are clashing and it will result in nothing productive. =/

Pretend I'm town tomorrow and let's see where that gets us?

We'll see, but yes, I agree, we're not being productive here so I'm going to drop it for now.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 27 2016 09:52 GMT
#1162
"hallmark of a terrible player" was perhaps a bit strongly worded. There's a lot of good players who fail to understand the three commandments of the townie. I guess something like "The hallmark of an incomplete player".
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 09:52 GMT
#1163
I do agree that my biggest weakness as town is getting others to agree (and by extend sticking to one read to lynch).

My solution is to be right so much that people will just automatically sheep me (half-joke). :D
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 09:54 GMT
#1164
Jean, I understand that you have a vision and everything, but just remember that in the end it's just a game. I play to have fun. I don't have fun writing (and reading) long and elaborate posts.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 09:56 GMT
#1165
Anyway I think we can probably 3-0 mafia this game.
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 27 2016 09:57 GMT
#1166
Oh wow, that was some lecturing. Please try to keep the ego levels below a certain threshold
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 09:59 GMT
#1167
Treat others as equals, Jean.
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 27 2016 10:00 GMT
#1168
On June 27 2016 17:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 17:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 27 2016 17:22 Superbia wrote:
On June 27 2016 17:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're having the opposite read development as town which is weird to begin with, but you also said when I asked you earlier why you were less certain on me that it was because other people were scumreading me, yet your townread was strongest when I was still being scumread by many.

And now that many people came around on me, you put me in as your 3rd favoured check (and therefore presumably 3rd scummiest player). I find that very odd.


Or you know, other reasons.

I am leaning one way on you in the spectrum. I feel your play yesterday was surprisingly meh. Not the stuff people scumread you for, but your interactions with Jean. Also you EoD joining Jean on his push on me was also superlame. Like I kind of understand how your read formed but it's just bad.

If you really want to we can fight about this tomorrow, but it's probably a waste of time. The reality is that if Jean genuinely considered lynching me there then the game was on the edge of being lost for no real reason and it's a good part of the reason why I did not want him to be in any position of power (personally I also despise(d) his playing style and the fact that it paid off).

Evaluate on the Moosy flip. Is me bussing the most likely scenario?

What in my interactions with Jean did you specifically find meh? Why did you find my play lackluster?

As for joining him on your push on you, I simply disagreed it'd make him scum. I wouldn't have wanted you as the lynch though, and you still aren't my preferred lynch. I'm not sure how you'd behave around MD if he was your buddy, need to contemplate on that.


That he literally bullied you into voting him.

His two scum reads were you and me (iirc). And I was generally townread at the time he came around. I'm just very annoyed that people voted him even though his (scum) reads were (probably) actually pretty shit. Especially you. He hard scumread you and he had a null/scumlean on me. And I was one of the only persons who was not going with the scumArtanis flow. It boggles my mind man.

Anyway I will reveal what I think on the morrow but tbh I don't expect it to make it. :D

That's not really true. It was a culmination of many people tunneling on me that just got me massive game fatigue. That's why I voted for him at the time. Later on, it was because GB wanted to lynch emperor whilst Jean wanted to lynch MD which I found to be preferable.
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 27 2016 10:01 GMT
#1169
On June 27 2016 18:59 Superbia wrote:
Treat others as equals, Jean.

You mean the dirty peasants? We elected officials try to minimize our contact with them.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 10:01 GMT
#1170
On June 27 2016 19:01 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 18:59 Superbia wrote:
Treat others as equals, Jean.

You mean the dirty peasants? We elected officials try to minimize our contact with them.


We may be friends after all.
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 27 2016 10:33 GMT
#1171
I think what's more important is that we start smurfhunting now.
Smurf is clearly a native english speaker. Only 48 hits on 'like', half of which being quotes eliminates Geript. I'd like to say that the egotisticalness displayed also eliminates Kita and Slam, and timezones kinda suggest a brit anyway. I'm kinda tempted to say holyflare but I don't think he'd have the energy to play atm. Marv and VE definitely wouldn't, at least not this way. Also too jolly to be DP.

I guess HF is still the most likely?
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 27 2016 10:38 GMT
#1172
I tried to read through Tumblewood's filter. At least the first part of it doesn't seem to have anything outright scummy, and he seems to be at least trying to probe what is going on in the game, so there's that.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Jean Valjean
Profile Joined April 2015
France216 Posts
June 27 2016 10:38 GMT
#1173
The more I think about it the more I like my GB is mafia theory.
In His name my task has just begun, I will see it done!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 27 2016 10:41 GMT
#1174
On June 27 2016 19:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
I tried to read through Tumblewood's filter. At least the first part of it doesn't seem to have anything outright scummy, and he seems to be at least trying to probe what is going on in the game, so there's that.

I have a hard townread on TW and I don't remember entirely why. I think it was because his read development and inquiries felt very natural. He also helped push away from me getting lynched both by reading me townier and by proxy of pushing TT whereas it would be in mafia's best interests to get me lynched and assure it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 27 2016 10:44 GMT
#1175
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 10:48 GMT
#1176
On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder.


Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game.
Minimal effort.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 27 2016 10:50 GMT
#1177
On June 27 2016 19:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder.


Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game.

I'd like your insight on who the smurf is though
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 10:50 GMT
#1178
Also 1 mafia between TT and damdred seems likely:
- Both had a weak/dismissive read on Moosy.
- They are both good enough players that one of them would've noticed if they were both town.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 10:51 GMT
#1179
On June 27 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 19:48 Superbia wrote:
On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder.


Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game.

I'd like your insight on who the smurf is though


Honestly idk. I've played too little with HF. I've never played with SuperSoft. I do kind of like HF as the smurf.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 27 2016 10:52 GMT
#1180
HF does fit. But I haven't played enough with him to be certain.
Minimal effort.
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