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QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 17:56 GMT
#930
On June 26 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah 100% lynching Jean if I become mayor.


This is the worst thing you have said all game.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 18:00 GMT
#934
On June 26 2016 20:25 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2016 20:20 Superbia wrote:
On June 26 2016 20:16 Jean Valjean wrote:
I would like to remind everyone that I am running for Mayor. I am absolutely certain I am the best person to hold the office. In order to help my bid here is a quick summary of my reads and reasons for them:

Skynx: (Strongly Leaning Town)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806208
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25807441

QT: (Strongly Leaning Town)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806666

Ticktock: (Leaning Town)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25807806

Emperor: (Null, At least one reason to townlean)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806640

Tumblewood: (True Null)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806659

Damdred: (Null, At least one reason to townlean)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806208

Superbia: (Null, at least one reason to scumlean)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806257
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25807405

Artanis: (Strongly Leaning Scum)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25806614
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25807441
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25807474
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25807584



Man, your read on me is superweak.


Hence, your primary category is "Null". If you would like for me to change my read on you, start finding mafia and you shall be swiftly rewarded. Go through someone's filter, build a case. You're not pushing anyone, you're not doing anything decisive. Even if I'm completely wrong on Artanis, I'm building a case, presenting evidence and pushing things forward in a way that will help the game. You're at best on the sidelines asking marginally relevant questions and providing uninteresting oneliners about people's alignment

I barely even know who you think is mafia or who you want to lynch, yet you're a candidate for the mayoral office? How do you expect to win votes like that?

Convince me on something, hell convince me Artanis is town, and I'll gladly throw my vote behind you. But as of now you deserve very little. You have 5 pages of filter and I can't even remember you calling anyone strongly mafia.


This is a great post. Even tho Jean has some good posts this game this has to be one of the better ones.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 18:07 GMT
#940
On June 26 2016 23:44 Damdred wrote:
If you mean my super early town circle of

Art, Damdred, tumble, super, chez

Chez just seemed to be read I,g and thinking about the game and pointed out some setup things I think only he would do as town. He is chez and is my friend won't lynch! Really though it's town sided for him to do those things.

Tumble was a total tone read early, since then he's been super active. He's been pushing different angles and seemingly is trying to figure out people's alignments while 're evaluating when new things cone up. Pretty sure town

Super was the decent amount of posting early and the prodding towards people while,not over reacting when told to wait on things. Also him trying to organize today points to town as well and hi a general activity.

Art is just town at this point though. Super active pushing things he seemingly believes. It was the sane early as well, his little retaliation towards Jean feels like town art as well as he is vindictive if you call him scum. Which is part of the reason for,ny early tr I wanted to work with him.

My gb read is explained in my filter earlier and I still stick with it. The only real problem I have is a lack of reads later in the day. But that's nai a for him, overall still town.

Any direct questions that I need to expand on these people is ok.

And atm I kind of want to lynch jealous.

The reasoning for this lynch is that his activity is still super low eleven though we've been in the game what over 36 hours? His one post of actual content actually seems like tmi especially towards art to me. Just seems strange never playing with art and just coming away he's town without any paranoia.

S far he's my lynch but still reading a couple


Not thrilled about this post at all. I find your reasoning behind Super to be especially weak. I don't like your stance on Art as well. Art seems more defensive than anything.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 18:14 GMT
#942
On June 27 2016 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm very tired of everyone tunneling onto me for poor reasoning and twisting everything I say to fit the view that they've already created on me and never reconsider. Just lynch me D1 so that you can get to actually finding mafia.
I'd advise looking into TT and the people who have been fairly absent. Maaybe Superbia. As for Jean, I've already told you exactly why I think TT is mafia.
##Vote Jean Valjean


This post makes me think you might just be Town. I've been ruminating the possibility that you just got a bad start with me and I think I took it too seriously when you said you never get mislynched as Town. That was a key thing I was looking at with you. Turns out you might not be lynched as Town cuz your mafia game is just shit bad.

I'm still on the fence about you in all honesty, but I'm starting to think it might be possible for you to be Town at this point.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 18:51 GMT
#946
OK I am caught up.

My Reads are as follows:

Town:

GB - He has an awesome level of good reaction to both town reads on him and Scum reads on him. Debating whether to vote him or not
Jean - He said there is no reason to Scum read him and he is absolutely correct on that. Would consider for Mayor
Skynks - He has been playing really well for a newbie as Town this game. Don't know that I like him for Mayor, but its a strong town read at least.

Town lean:

TT- I think I can put him here for now. Most reasons people have for Scum reading him are out of paranoia I think. He has played decent this game and some of his posts really show town mindset
Art - Yes, I am flipping on him. I read his posts a genuine and while I think his argument against me was misplaced, he seems like he is legit just frustrated at getting Scum read for something that happened early day 1

Null:

Damdred - hasn't really done anything to alter the state of the game
Chez - Hasn't been active and generally hasn't done much

Scum Lean:

Tumble: Hist Tone is good, but some of his posts just rub me the wrong way all over
Jealous - Has been really inactive and had one decent content post that was a bit contrived if I'm being honest. I could not see what he saw in Jean.
Super - Really unremarkable. Didn't like the stances he gave and I agree that they have been weak

Scum:

EC - has been completely unremarkable all game long. I don't think I really cared much for a single thing he has done all game.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 18:54 GMT
#947
My instincts tell me to vote GB for Mayor, but my head says to go with Jean.

I'm going with Jean

##Vote: Jean Valjean[/QUOTE]
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 19:05 GMT
#951
On June 27 2016 04:02 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 02:42 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:18 Superbia wrote:
A quick few notes about how I feel about damdred btw:

I think damdred could be scum, but not for the reasons that have been brought up (iirc). I think his reads have been sort of relaxed and I can see them coming from a town perspective. I do want to see some reasons behind them. Especially the two I asked at the start of the game.

Damdred's most scummy play this game has been his chicanery regarding presidency. He started the game off with the whole "I don't want to be president but I want to support a town president" or something along those lines. I think this is actually sort of scummy. I think as town you want to be the president, especially if you believe in your own ability. Moreover, it felt like he did want the presidency from the very start. His last page of his filter also has him pushing more and more towards getting the presidency.

Damdred, can you explain? Did you really not want presidency? If so, what has changed?

Moreover, can you elaborate on your early reads a little? Why did you conclude artanis vs qt was TvT that quickly?


This post sucks and I'm Scum reading you for it.


Why?


I'll just say it like this: your reasons for both Town reading him AND Scum reading him are not even AI.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 26 2016 19:17 GMT
#961
On June 27 2016 04:08 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 04:05 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 27 2016 04:02 Superbia wrote:
On June 27 2016 02:42 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 26 2016 18:18 Superbia wrote:
A quick few notes about how I feel about damdred btw:

I think damdred could be scum, but not for the reasons that have been brought up (iirc). I think his reads have been sort of relaxed and I can see them coming from a town perspective. I do want to see some reasons behind them. Especially the two I asked at the start of the game.

Damdred's most scummy play this game has been his chicanery regarding presidency. He started the game off with the whole "I don't want to be president but I want to support a town president" or something along those lines. I think this is actually sort of scummy. I think as town you want to be the president, especially if you believe in your own ability. Moreover, it felt like he did want the presidency from the very start. His last page of his filter also has him pushing more and more towards getting the presidency.

Damdred, can you explain? Did you really not want presidency? If so, what has changed?

Moreover, can you elaborate on your early reads a little? Why did you conclude artanis vs qt was TvT that quickly?


This post sucks and I'm Scum reading you for it.


Why?


I'll just say it like this: your reasons for both Town reading him AND Scum reading him are not even AI.


AI? uwut?

How does it make me scum? Also what does it mean for damdred's alignment?


This is the last post of the day for me.

1) Your read on him is very non-commital. That is sometimes considered a Scum tell all on its own.
2) I read your reasons for reading him both Town and Scum as greatly reaching into things that are not alignment indicative at all. It would be one thing if they were solid Town and Scum tells, but they are not.

Combine these two and what are you left with? No stance taken one way or the other based off reasons that are not AI. You might as well have just said "He hasn't done anything AI" but the fact that you are trying to blow a post like that up by both giving a strong stance both ways and giving non-valid reasoning just makes it a terrible terrible post.

Why this is a Scummy post is because:
1) Its one of the longer posts you have made
2) You are fabricating reads
3) You don't have hardly any long posts to begin with
4) So it makes it look like you are trying look like you are doing more than you really are.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 27 2016 20:46 GMT
#1269
On June 27 2016 23:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, why did you decide to vote Jean as mayor when you decided to vote me?

QT, why did you prefer to vote Jean instead of me?


Well, IDK. Not too sure. I said i was considering you both. It was pretty close I will admit. It mostly lied in my reasons for Town reading both of you. I read you Town for having excellent reactions to reads on you and I Town read Jean for having very sound reasoning and seeing any reason to Scum read him. In the end I went with my opinion of what would be harder to fake as Scum I guess. Like I still think there is a really good chance you are Town, but at this point I have zero reasons to Scum read Jean based on the facts. But I will say I think your tone in better than Jeans, and that counts for something.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
July 03 2016 21:45 GMT
#2183
Good game team.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
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