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@emperorchampion, what do you think of Artanis?
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Chez because he has a more confusing playstyle
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i'm liking gb a lot with his posts that makes sense, he's probably scum because of meta
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On June 26 2016 12:08 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 12:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Chez because he has a more confusing playstyle You think that's a good thing ? XD
of course. if chezinu is the mayor, we'd have no idea who he'd kill which means mafia wouldn't be able to predict the death and work around it or plan anything beforehand.
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On June 26 2016 12:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
hell, it plays right into mafia's hand to put someone up for mayor who's bad at scumhunting. it's just as bad to have mafia lynching townies as town lynching townies, only mafia doesn't come under suspicion when town lynches townies. It definitely isn't. Remember that Mayor decides day1 lynch and have double votes throughout the whole game. Imagine this catastrophe when we reach LYLO, for example. Double votes in mafia's hand may antecipate town loss. Minus 1 day before LYLO. Now imagine if it's a townie in the other hand. It really doesn't matter, guys. We simply have to elect the towniest.
Basically this. The only big danger is if QT is swayed by Mafia.
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Also I had no idea mayor only decides the kill for the first night rip
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On June 26 2016 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote:On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice. I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty. Why do you have 90% on Superbia? a couple posts I liked. first is this one: On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out. a) easier for mafia to discuss mechanics than reads b) last part implies he actually cares about putting town on the right track (prefers to flesh out his thoughts vs. spitting them out when he has them) On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good rare that mafia actually takes pride in their reads On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 22:21 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 21:28 Superbia wrote:
TT lend me your thoughts Almost caughtup. I'd like to know where you are going with Moosy and Jealous. Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game. smart post. isn't that the gold standard for reading superbia? also feeeels 1) a) Discussing that we shouldn't be discussing mechanics and doing nothing else is still a way to discuss mechanics b) Which is the right track? We can flesh out reads while still deciding the mayor. Taking this as a normal game ISN'T the right way because the Mayor role plays a big part on how this game will unfold. This post can come from either alignments. I don't see it as alignment indicative. 2) That can be easily fakeable, but I understand where you're coming from. 3) I don't think that post from Superbia was good. Moosy claims Mafia almost every game. Why would Superbia expect that from Moosy? Is there a reason why town Moosy would NOT claim mafia in this game, or that is just an assumption/a paranoia that Moosy would exploit this as Mafia and NEVER do that as town again? To me, that's just an assumption. There is no reasonable grounds to Superbia's assumption. That's actually a very flimsy way to throw suspicions at someone.
this is a bad post because it's defending me. gb 98% mafia nice pocket play 10/10
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but tbh I'm wondering if I've made it too obvious that I'm mafia this game with my lack of attempting to actually throw myself in the line of fire which shows i'm trying to survive which is a mafia trait for me.
I'm also wondering why claiming mafia in the way i did makes me mafia because it seems forced. That would be the opposite way to read it. You would say i claimed mafia in that way BECAUSE i got the role and am excited about it. Especially since i love playing mafia which superbia should def know since he was in the game where i double bused my teammates.
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like legit if i roll mafia i would come into thread screaming about it because i'm happy. i would not roll mafia and scream about it in thread because i was trying to force my d1 meta.
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On June 26 2016 19:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 18:54 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2016 18:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also have a natural bias against OMGUSing because I know people tend to view scumreading someone that suspects you as such so I tend to focus on other people. It's kinda funny/stupid but it's true. So then maybe you should explain your read on me a little better. You've been a complete non-factor throughout the game, mostly just echoing sentiments of others. Your focus point has been on things other than reads in the early game when you did have time, such as plans on mayor/pardoner. You also seem very stuck in your reads, no fluidity at all and call me out for changing my reads as if it were a scum factor, and don't really seem to be attempting to unearth people's alignments.
lol. chill with the libel dude. calling another person a non-factor is rude just like how you dismissed Skynx's case. And no, his case wasn't really narrative at all, although it was slightly unorganized, it was good. I don't appreciate the attitude at all dood. You're a player like the rest of us and you should play like such.
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Also, if anyone's a non factor that would be me but you haven't commented on that at all, like what?
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On June 26 2016 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 19:41 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 19:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 26 2016 19:23 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 26 2016 19:15 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 19:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I've never seen you truly try as mafia, Slam. I've seen you truly try as town and you've had incredible games there. I don't see why not hard townreading you would be proving I'm scum, that's a very loaded statement. You don't know whether or not my alternate identity is Slam. Applying some meta that might be completely wrong is dumb. The sentence is loaded because it should be. The way I've approached pressuring you is not something many players on this site are capable of doing as mafia. To think I'm mafia, one or two things kinda have to be true. 1) you must think I am excellent at playing scum 2) you must not have noticed the kind of pressure being put on you is not something normal or off-hand The simple conclusion to my alignment, assuming I'm not some scum-god, is that I must be town because there's almost no one capable of doing what I have been doing as mafia. So yes, the statement is loaded, because it is intended to be. It's not that hard to kick a puppy that's already being kicked by a few others. Plus, knowing I'm town means I know you're tunneling on town, which has plenty of mafia reasoning behind it. The fact that you're trying so hard to use it as leverage to get townread also diminishes its worth as clearly you're very aware of what you're doing. I am perfectly aware of what I am doing Artanis, I am very smart. I am also perceptive enough to undestand why what you're doing right now is not logical. For example, when Skynx pushed you with weaker and less coherent reasons, and put less force behind the push than I am doing now, you simply wrote him off as town for the very fact that he wrote a case on you. For some reason I'm not getting the same treatment. If anything, my points are better thought out and more valid than Skynx', so why am I not getting the same treatment? Objectively, I have, in this conversation and the previous one, put you on the defense. How many scum players on TL can put you on defense when you're town? I understand other players do not have to townread me, they're not you. But you, specifically, should really be changing your mind about my alignment right now. Because Skynx is a newbie and you're, as you put it, very smart, and probably have a lot of experience in playing mafia. I use different bars for different players. I do like that I managed to put you in a corner where your options were a) call me awesome b) call yourself mafia Anyway, I think I'll leave you for now, but that doesn't mean you're out of danger. You are currently the lynch target for my mayoral campaign, and will remain so. There's two reasons I'm not going to bother with you for a while, the first one is that I need to read up on other players to better flesh out my platform and vision for this game, and secondly it's just mean to run up the score when you're so thoroughly trouncing your opponent. I will probably spite lynch you if you keep this up btw. Your ego's choking out the game.
loool you were tryna choke out other players earlier until everyone reacted badly to it and tried to kill you. This is why you shouldn't be such a rood rood boi.
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On June 26 2016 19:48 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 19:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 26 2016 19:41 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 19:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 26 2016 19:23 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 26 2016 19:15 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 19:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I've never seen you truly try as mafia, Slam. I've seen you truly try as town and you've had incredible games there. I don't see why not hard townreading you would be proving I'm scum, that's a very loaded statement. You don't know whether or not my alternate identity is Slam. Applying some meta that might be completely wrong is dumb. The sentence is loaded because it should be. The way I've approached pressuring you is not something many players on this site are capable of doing as mafia. To think I'm mafia, one or two things kinda have to be true. 1) you must think I am excellent at playing scum 2) you must not have noticed the kind of pressure being put on you is not something normal or off-hand The simple conclusion to my alignment, assuming I'm not some scum-god, is that I must be town because there's almost no one capable of doing what I have been doing as mafia. So yes, the statement is loaded, because it is intended to be. It's not that hard to kick a puppy that's already being kicked by a few others. Plus, knowing I'm town means I know you're tunneling on town, which has plenty of mafia reasoning behind it. The fact that you're trying so hard to use it as leverage to get townread also diminishes its worth as clearly you're very aware of what you're doing. I am perfectly aware of what I am doing Artanis, I am very smart. I am also perceptive enough to undestand why what you're doing right now is not logical. For example, when Skynx pushed you with weaker and less coherent reasons, and put less force behind the push than I am doing now, you simply wrote him off as town for the very fact that he wrote a case on you. For some reason I'm not getting the same treatment. If anything, my points are better thought out and more valid than Skynx', so why am I not getting the same treatment? Objectively, I have, in this conversation and the previous one, put you on the defense. How many scum players on TL can put you on defense when you're town? I understand other players do not have to townread me, they're not you. But you, specifically, should really be changing your mind about my alignment right now. Because Skynx is a newbie and you're, as you put it, very smart, and probably have a lot of experience in playing mafia. I use different bars for different players. I do like that I managed to put you in a corner where your options were a) call me awesome b) call yourself mafia Anyway, I think I'll leave you for now, but that doesn't mean you're out of danger. You are currently the lynch target for my mayoral campaign, and will remain so. There's two reasons I'm not going to bother with you for a while, the first one is that I need to read up on other players to better flesh out my platform and vision for this game, and secondly it's just mean to run up the score when you're so thoroughly trouncing your opponent. I will probably spite lynch you if you keep this up btw. Your ego's choking out the game. "The zebra bravely announces he'll eat the lion". Good luck Artanis.
although this is pretty rood from you too jean
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On June 26 2016 20:14 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah 100% lynching Jean if I become mayor. There is actually no chance he's mafia you know right?
There's not no chance but we're definitely not voting Artanis for mayor now. :D
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On June 26 2016 20:21 Jean Valjean wrote:
I will deliberately ignore Moosy and Chezinu for now. While my time is limited I think it is better spent reading people who are actually attempting to play the game. I hope they get checked at some point just to relieve me of the headache of figuring them out.
That means I just have a few more filters to go through before the end of the day. I very much think GB is someone that needs to be looked into, and then there's Jelaous who I don't even remember posting at all.
save yourself the trouble and kill me will ya. I'm mafia godfather
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On June 26 2016 20:28 Jean Valjean wrote:
Also I contest the statement I am a dick. I have been very polite in the way I've pushed you Artanis, I've used mature language and thoroughly explained my read all the way along. The only reason you think I am a dick is because you're on the wrong end of a ten ton lynching machine, that is always uncomfortable.
I am justice, not spite.
this post is spite itself lolol
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On June 26 2016 21:37 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 21:19 Superbia wrote:On June 26 2016 20:30 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 20:28 Superbia wrote:On June 26 2016 20:25 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 20:20 Superbia wrote:Man, your read on me is superweak. Hence, your primary category is "Null". If you would like for me to change my read on you, start finding mafia and you shall be swiftly rewarded. Go through someone's filter, build a case. You're not pushing anyone, you're not doing anything decisive. Even if I'm completely wrong on Artanis, I'm building a case, presenting evidence and pushing things forward in a way that will help the game. You're at best on the sidelines asking marginally relevant questions and providing uninteresting oneliners about people's alignment I barely even know who you think is mafia or who you want to lynch, yet you're a candidate for the mayoral office? How do you expect to win votes like that? Convince me on something, hell convince me Artanis is town, and I'll gladly throw my vote behind you. But as of now you deserve very little. You have 5 pages of filter and I can't even remember you calling anyone strongly mafia. By the way you talked about me suggests that you know my meta. Tell me, is any of what you have said reminiscent of how I play town? x; I do not care how you play town. I care about how I want you to play town and how I know you're capable of playing town. I want you to summarize, be decisive and push not because I think that's your town meta, but because I think that is the best way you can be useful to the game if you are indeed town. There's very few things I care less about than your own sense of "my town meta". Can I conclude from this is that you think I'm town? I'm basically asking you "how are you evaluating my alignment?" and you're answering with "this is how I want you to play". That is because I cannot accurately evaluate your alignment until you've provided me with material to work with. No I not think you're town, but I'm also not sold on you being mafia. If your contributions remain to just not do anything and not commit to figuring out the game, then I will be forced to make the call based on more vague evidence. So yes, currently i'm judging some kind of a vague idea of how smart, sophisticated and analytical I think you can be against what is the reality this game. It's less about tone or meta, and more about just the very content of your posts, and the thought process behind them. Currently I see a player I consider smart and definitely capable of being useful wasting that talent and making no conclusions from it. If that is all I get from you, so be it. If I am wrong because you simply wanted to keep intact some bullshit meta, then so be it too. See, I know the TL meta lets people get away with being lazy, useless and bad. But I'm not here to adhere to anyone else's meta, I'm building my own.
I'm getting away with it! And you said you'd leave me alone which means you're letting me get away with it!
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On June 26 2016 21:51 Superbia wrote:
Who would people vote for for the lynch?
I want to lynch: Moosydoosy
oh sht yes
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superbia if you promise to kill me if you're mayor i will vote for you
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On June 26 2016 21:51 Superbia wrote:
Can everyone do this?
memememee
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