EPTI'd love it if someone can more thoroughly explain difference between plurality and majority
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I'd love it if someone can more thoroughly explain difference between plurality and majority | ||
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On June 18 2016 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx, Tina = rsoultin.  Coolio On June 18 2016 15:36 rsoultin wrote: also shape can be town ^^ at least for the night lol This makes me think of my "he's not scummy (yet)" post from last game huehuehue | ||
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On June 18 2016 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx do you happen to have any reads so far? Not really. I dunno people's playstyles tho, anyone sticking out way more trolly than they usually are? Super is quite similar to prev game so far. | ||
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 Just need the game to progress rly. | ||
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On June 19 2016 01:19 rsoultin wrote: -bobbles through the thread like a bobble-head doll- jooooni don't let me forget about checking up on newbie dude...i can be forgetful ^^ Don't forget to check up in me ^^ | ||
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I agree with ryan on fact that its not reactive. Its almost too wifom to be scum, if not just a very pointless post from town perspective. | ||
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On June 19 2016 05:22 Shapelog wrote: I can understand yammy, but can you restate why cake is? Also, This is something kinda debatable I been wanting to ask. Should we actually keep Someone we think is scummy alive? Should we risk it? The Postie is that if we are right, we win the game. The negative is that if we wrong we lose, and it be harder to admit we are wrong about (as mafia in this case would be pushing us to lynch X) What do you think about it Rsoul/anyone else? I was actually thinking about this. Shooting town N0 increases chances of picking mafia for lynch from 16% to 33%, meanwhile 1 wrong vote means loss. Would scum wanting to both vote for same person make them stick out is what I'm really wondering tho. | ||
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On June 19 2016 04:18 rsoultin wrote: disregard...I found it -rolls around the thread- what do you think about skynx, shape? I'm actually thinking the cluelessness looks a bit different from the newbie game but I only skimmed ^^ Perfect! That had some context and i didnt feel like linkinh the whole thing. | ||
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On June 19 2016 06:05 Shapelog wrote: Not if the thread thinks the person is scum. Mafia would blend in. Huh? I am confused about this sentence now? You might be right about skynx, I might move him up the list a bit. Yeah, the bias is what I partially worry about it. I feel like it would be a tad bit easy for mafia to take control of that and for it to snowball. I was feeling lazy and she did the work for me. Happy days. Or are you confused about sonething else? | ||
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I'll cook, eat, catchup and post thoughts in approx 1h. | ||
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On June 18 2016 07:43 Shapelog wrote: No, I answered, now you give me either why or I beat Ryan with this stick! Either way I win so idc. So I can lynch you? On June 18 2016 07:57 Shapelog wrote: Rso gets seroius? That's a thing? Anyways, Super! Lets go back to reasons (mainly to start the game actually) You said reasons, can you expand? Then this is abandoned to some chit chat . Later Supers tr on him he questioned but again no answer from Super but Shape looks comfy with it. Or am i reading too much into this? | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: so who do you think is scum now besides superbia? And tina imo has to elaborate on why cop is mafia, #301 is too weak to justify a vote. | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:33 Superbia wrote: This is not a normal game of mafia. Tomorrow is the normal game of mafia. Tonight is killing the scariest town (leaning rayn). This is straight up bullshit? | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: Have you read the rules? x; we only win tonight if we shoot godfather. You think the objectively scummiest person is going to be godfather? hint + Show Spoiler + no So you're intentionally trying to act scummy so we get into a mentality thinking that lynching you doesnt benefit us so we lynch someone else? | ||
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On June 20 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote: Have you read the rules? x; we only win tonight if we shoot godfather. You think the objectively scummiest person is going to be godfather? hint + Show Spoiler + no This came out from rayn accusing you. If the objectively scummiest person you mention here not you then who is it? | ||
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Lol ik if we kill GF we insta win n all. Artanis could've said if we kill 15526 shot rolecop n0 we win, you get the point. Role itself doesnt have a power. | ||
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On June 20 2016 05:23 yamato77 wrote: Basically my shot preference is skynx > copcake > shape > super > rsoul > rayn Based on the limited information I can gather in the short amount of time I've spent reading You got 1.5h more don't be hasty | ||
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On June 20 2016 15:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skynx you never answered me on this. Could i get an answer please? This looks like a grammatical error on my part. | ||
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On June 20 2016 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes or Skynx, because yamato wanted to kill him. Basically noone else than Shapelog or Skynx has any reason to shoot yamato. Cake and you shoot me 100 times out of 100, well at least you do, Cake maybe 98 out of 100. Shapelog's big post is all over the place and i have no idea what he is talking about in it. Suddenly everyone is scum? What? Err he scumread me in 2 min analysis then immediately switched to someone else. It wasn't 1 bit credible and i don't even have to defend myself against that. Shooting Yamato is a meta kill because we didn't push anyone else enough and we don't have any information now. | ||
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What you picked up earlier is correct: too wifom=pointless bad townplay. | ||
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On June 20 2016 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: You realize that's not really a point in favor of you being town? I don't see how you conclude this. If we lynched Yamato they would have to kill one of remaining 5 now meaning more information for us and anyway we lynch Super today and win. But you guys didn't want that to happen. | ||
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On June 20 2016 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: And you didn't vocally object that. I mean, i am not saying it makes you mafia but it definitely doesn't make you town. Just because you have not played as much as other people in this game doesn't mean you shouldn't voice your opinion / make your stance perfectly clear. You are allowed to say and object things you think are going to end up being a wrong decision. If you are not mafia, then who is? I am not pushing for your lynch here, now. I am trying to figure out what is the most likely answer and from what i know, rsoultin is not the correct answer for being mafia, and i am almost sure Cake is not mafia either. If you disagree with me, let me know why. If you think i am mafia, let other people know why - and give me a chance to answer your accusation. The fact is that "figuring out who is the goon" doesn't make you town and while it doesn't make you mafia either saying that i look fishy (or whatever you are saying) is kinda bs because i have in my opinion clearly elaborated on how i have come to my conclusions in this game. Just saying "he is calling me mafia so i call him mafia" is not a valid reason, and that's what i see you saying atm. Or like.. at least vocally attacking me just because i am entertaining the possibility of you being mafia. I perfectly get your point. I'm tring to get used to just being more active in the way you suggest. That being said I don't think what else can make me more town. There was 3 votes on Super when i suggested leaving him for D1 might be a better option. Yes I should've posted more reasons trying to convince you guys, reasons i didn't do that was simply because I was super tired and had to wake up early today and had 1% battery. So i just let it go. | ||
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Meanwhile, who did you vote Shapelog? | ||
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On June 21 2016 14:34 rsoultin wrote: I'm finding the possibility of a scrum skynx more credible as time goes on ^^ What because I'm busy? See how that worked out wıth Yamato | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:15 CopCake wrote: Rayn you can like take every word i say with tissues because of my grammar, the person that killed yamato is either: - newbie - rsoultin or you - myself Obvs is not me because I am town. So Shape is never mafia for you? why? Also your filter page3 is pretty much this above repeated but no actual reasonıng, why these reads? | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:18 rsoultin wrote: nh i'm doing that thing again where i just can't understand the possible scum motivation for shooting yamato when super is being voted for vig shot in thread i can't definitively say that i believe cake and skynx are cleared here (and part of me cringes at the idea of possibly being wrong on rayn but honestly i'm just never gonna vote him this game cause i'd like to trust my read on him lol ><) but just the idea of scum willfully and knowingly voting for super WHILE shooting yamato while they could change it, or vote for someone else, idk. i just don't think that ever happens here i don't want to be wrong, rayn, but i have a hard time seeing anyone but an afk shapelog being scum with super here. it's just such an unnecessary thing for scum to do. like we can argue that it's confusing as shit to have a yamato shot here until the cows come home, and it is, and it does make my brain hurt a bit... but i just don't see why scum ever goes through the effort here to make it more difficult to win just cuz. like i don't think cake does this, and i don't know skynx, but i do know that he was at least present enough to vote for super and seemed to understand what we were thinking so unless he's the sort to think it would be stylistically cool... the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot On June 21 2016 03:29 rsoultin wrote: Yeah, skynx definitely understood where the lynch was likely to go if/when super flipped goon -pokes at skynx- the reason you thinking yamato was goon beforehand doesn't make you town, skynxy, is godfather would know who the goon was. that's what rayn is getting at anyway, i'd like to hear from people, especially if y'all think my reasoning's flawed I think you're misinterpreting the scum plot here. Superbia was intentionally being scummy, he wanted to get shot. GF is someone pushing for Super shot and congrats now he's pretty much blend in. We lynched the goon and they killed the only other point of argument so we have no basis to work on basically. | ||
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That gives me around 12 hours to figure out between tina and cop. | ||
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On June 21 2016 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you completely disagree with the "scum were trying to shoot the same person town shoots" argument? Why? Nana you got it wrong. I think mafia QT was like: Vito Corleone: yo super my boy go act scummy so they kill you then we shoot Yamato so they start day from zero. I'm gona push you aswell so they don't suspect me one bit. Superbia: Sure papa. Shape can't be mafia cuz he'd be around for pushing super last minute. Or at least thats how i see things. | ||
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On June 21 2016 23:44 rsoultin wrote: Because we know that yamato was town and this is a more complicated path to the same end, basically. It's possible, of course, but at the end of the day it's simply less intelligent. If yama were alive right now the likelihood that town ever lynches anyone else is very small. This d1 is, you have to see, hugely more unpredictable and therefore more risky for scum. That said, you invalidated where my thoughts were going so... -shrugs- Not rly. If we still killed Super and mafia shot someone else, I'd doubt many people would insta join me on the vote. Imo its like way too bait for mafia to go for Yamato lynch after i called him GF hiding behind Super, i mean it'd be so obvious. I think Yamato is a very good kill by mafia here. | ||
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On June 22 2016 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem with this is the following: Let's say -3 is town victory and 3 is mafia victory on the scale. Why would mafia wanna start from 0 when they can start from 2? That is the crux of the argument. Thats just another strategy of going about it. Super's behavior tells me that mafia just opted for this kind of play straight up. They could ve done what you suggested but Super would've played better if that was the case, least of all not attack you. | ||
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On June 22 2016 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean Skynx, if that is your argument, i can tell you it only applies to you being mafia. Because i know noone else in this game thinks so. Even if you think that's what mafia could have done it is 100% certain that noone else does (well Cake says she does but... even Superbia doesn't and as i said i dont think superbia would have let cake make that kill for your reasoning). Noramlly scum kill people who: 1. are on the right track 2. are the biggest threat to your team 3. you can't lynch 4. blue reads (but that doesnt apply here) Yeah i see where you coming from but sometimes i think throwing a curveball is a better play and the core mechanic of this play 100% suggest the kind of play im talking about. Those 1, 2 and 3 you talking about are super hard targets to lynch and basically town has to decide lynching only 1 out of 5 where lot of people are like that. Mafia is basically forcing a logical shot by you on Shapelog because he looks the scummiest. I dunno thats the best i can explain my thoughts | ||
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On June 22 2016 02:55 rsoultin wrote: if yama flips town and we've vig shot him (which was where the game was at when super posted) where does that put him? it has super hard-defending yamato who was town...what would you think of his alignment then? I would never have changed my mind cuz i was sure of my read. If mafia didnt shoot Yamato i'd vote him. Same if we vig shot Yamato, which was my original plan. | ||
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On June 22 2016 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i can't see anyone else being scum except for Shapelog here. If you do, please do tell. Cop is mafia. Think of your defence of her in your megapost last page with my pow. One key point with that logic which suggests cop is mafia aswell is that mafia under no circumstances can afford Super not getting lynched cuz they would lose then. So GF has to be someone who doesn't even consider voting for someone else on eod. Check 2 pages before, her 2 short posts are declaring vote on Super with no compromise. Me, you and tina are struggling and in the end go for Super. Shape is absent cuz whatever. | ||
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On June 22 2016 03:05 rsoultin wrote: why do you think mafia would lose if super wasn't vig shot? Cuz we'd lynch him today as he acted so scummy already. | ||
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On June 22 2016 03:04 rsoultin wrote: anyway, i'm really just not inclined to change because of the reasons i have to townread the other players, and frankly regardless of shape's alignment it's pretty clear that he doesn't care who scum actually is since he can't be assed to put in the effort to help us find them if he didn't have time and wasn't posting that might be different. rayn summed it up super well, though That would be a fine lynch for a normal mafia game, but we can't afford it here. | ||
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On June 22 2016 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is why does Superbia make that play then? Cake was not scumread, Superbia was not scumread by anyone except me. Why not shoot me and be townread instead of making a play you don't even know will succeed? How does shooting you gives towncred? Super was scumread by three including me you n tina, Shape likely to vote Super aswell beacuase of earlier beef. | ||
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Voting Shapelog and getting drunk hihi | ||
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I love yaal | ||
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I felt much more comfortable this game, maybe I'm not cut to roll scum. | ||
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On June 22 2016 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: ehh no? I believe this was our game plan no? or was there a miscommunication lol? I read the scum QT and i really can't find any sentence where i ask you to play scummy lol. Maaan i actually had this game figured fuck this | ||
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