EPTMaybe we should shoot you just to see if you're desperate goon or really this much of a twit as town
Shooting rayn is pretty damn retarded
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rsoultin
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Maybe we should shoot you just to see if you're desperate goon or really this much of a twit as town Shooting rayn is pretty damn retarded | ||
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As for cake it's cause she's underwhelming but irk I even want to push that still so I'll get back to that later one way or the other | ||
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i think i'd rather shoot yamato based on assumptions that i can trust my own reads lol >< but i can agree to super, too i think if super is scum here he's almost definitely goon to yama's gf, though, or he's running an excellent play to try to get people like me to think that by drawing a shot and implicating yama in the process also, regarding the question about cake, skynx, it was that her reads were super (ok given he was one of the most active) and yama (???) and then it took a really long time for anything else to develop from her. kinda thinking rayn was right about the dumbtelling, though. she's almost too clueless about the mafia team comp to be scum and it's enough to make me want to back off and see what she comes up with ftr i'm not convinced that super is scum. i do think it's actually possible for him to be town here and he's just being superbly (haha xP) obtuse with this "we should try to shoot town" line of his. HOWEVER i really don't think this play can come from a super gf either defending town against rayn to get towncred (kinda dumb if he knows rayn at all, cause rayn's reaction to such things is super predictable) or worse trying to protect goon yama cause yeah that's retarded for gf to do here which is why i'd prefer a yama shot as for shape...i think i need to revisit him and make sure i still think he's town | ||
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he hasn't done a ton but the prodding at super about the townread and analyzing which emoticons i'm using from him are more likely town. only caveat to that is if he did happen to be goon here his main tool from his mafia playbook would be gone which might actually make his play look more townie. but the still lands townside for me att | ||
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On June 20 2016 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is that if Superbia is town yamato can be anything but if Superbia is mafia yamato basically has to be mafia. I'd rather not explain yet but i will if i must.  rsoultin read my post after yamato's list. Maybe scum just fucked up. lol i think i already did it for you tbh but i understand. i think it's more important to get a vig shot for town than to quibble over it anyway. independently i have a stronger scumread on yama, which is why that's my preference i'll vote for super though no prob ^^ | ||
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skynx, shape? | ||
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On June 20 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote: Meh i think super is goon trying to take a shot for yamato i think that's more likely on the plus side, if he flips goon that makes d1 pretty easy ^^ | ||
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and if y'all want to talk about an alternative, i'm open to discussion, too. the most important thing though is that we get it cause i feel that if all we get out of tonight is the scum shot our chances of winning this game are very low. the info is super important | ||
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so i'm not sure if that nk means crazy shape or that i should be wary of rayn, but either way it doesn't make a ton of sense...like theoretically if super is goon it would make the most sense to leave yama alive cause he should be an easy ml after :/ anywho, bbl | ||
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logically getting super killed and leaving yama alive is just the obvious best move here. super definitely knew what was going on with the setup so i doubt his scum partner was completely oblivious... which leads me to the only logical explanation being scum stacking a shot on who they thought would get vig shot by town, and if they thought that that person was yama that points heavily toward someone afk my money's on shape. it helps that he's also like the only one i know here who actually thinks that making confusing night kills is a better strat than just removing the obv players who are 1) widely townread and 2) can solve the game | ||
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i'm doing that thing again where i just can't understand the possible scum motivation for shooting yamato when super is being voted for vig shot in thread i can't definitively say that i believe cake and skynx are cleared here (and part of me cringes at the idea of possibly being wrong on rayn but honestly i'm just never gonna vote him this game cause i'd like to trust my read on him lol ><) but just the idea of scum willfully and knowingly voting for super WHILE shooting yamato while they could change it, or vote for someone else, idk. i just don't think that ever happens here i don't want to be wrong, rayn, but i have a hard time seeing anyone but an afk shapelog being scum with super here. it's just such an unnecessary thing for scum to do. like we can argue that it's confusing as shit to have a yamato shot here until the cows come home, and it is, and it does make my brain hurt a bit... but i just don't see why scum ever goes through the effort here to make it more difficult to win just cuz. like i don't think cake does this, and i don't know skynx, but i do know that he was at least present enough to vote for super and seemed to understand what we were thinking so unless he's the sort to think it would be stylistically cool... the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot | ||
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On June 20 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote: Meh i think super is goon trying to take a shot for yamato Yeah, skynx definitely understood where the lynch was likely to go if/when super flipped goon -pokes at skynx- the reason you thinking yamato was goon beforehand doesn't make you town, skynxy, is godfather would know who the goon was. that's what rayn is getting at anyway, i'd like to hear from people, especially if y'all think my reasoning's flawed | ||
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it's not the most logical approach but that's bitten me in the ass before with tumbleweed lol that's why i'm trying to get people to give input, too. i want different perspectives...in most games i'm dead before being wrong can lose us the game lol >< or have had enough lynches to get out of my wrong tunnels by you know >> mislynching my mistakes like if it were lightning round, tina chooses the lynch, i know where i'd be ^^ but since we're talking about investigating other avenues while we have the time, skynxy, pretend i'm not a gamer (and compared to the rest of y'all i pretty much am not) and explain that meta kill comment you made to me in non-nerd terms? i'd like to know what you think about the shot | ||
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i am not, however, given to needlessly complicating a game. for one, rayn can flip on me at any moment for saying something "stupid" lol >< and secondly my competitiveness generally doesn't extend to winning a game in the "coolest" way possible. i just like to win ^^ i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really tbh shape i really have a hard time believing that anyone rereading the game OR my filter would have trouble following my line of thought but on the off-chance that you're town or that my impression is wrong, i'll indulge you: 1. gut said super was town for laidback inquisitiveness so i went with that 2. super's "we should kill obv town cause yama is goon" and push on rayn was retarded 3. i thought y'know i doubt he's this retarded, he's prob goon trying to keep us from shooting gf yama and winning the game...so we should prob shoot yama if i'm right 4. shooting someone is better than shooting no one and i'm fine with shooting super for the info if i can't convince people to shoot yama -shrugs- obviously i was wrong about yamato. i was however right that super is in fact not retarded lol >< seems i gave him too little credit, actually if you have any further questions, ask | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote: You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato. your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: What does this mean in 5yr old english? it means that i think you're town based on my usual method of reading you, which i've had a lot of success with it means that objectively, the most townread player might choose to shoot someone who isn't because it would look weird for me to die over him it means that despite that i trust my read more than the paranoid, maybe rayn shot yamato cause he couldn't shoot himself, thought make sense? | ||
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