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On June 18 2016 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i am not accusing her of having that view. I am just saying it's simply incorrect. If she chooses to believe that or not is up to her.
Although, i do not agree with the assessment of me being bad to read her. There have been exactly 2 games where Cake has been scum and i have been town, and once she was super obviously scum. The other time was the game where she was referring to where me and yamato read her as town because she called townies town and mafia mafia. That's usually a town trait yes? Calling the right people scum. Just because her and Moosy and to some extent Glowingbear decided to all bus each other from the beginning and there was no coordination between the scumteam. It's really hard to tell that kinda bussing from townie behavior. Every single other time i have correctly read her.
Sooo... I understand it can be a matter of me townreading her too easily, but it could also be that i am actually good at reading her. Trying to argue one or the other is right or wrong is just bs because there is simply not enough evidence.
This is to say that you should not write my read on her off as "you're bad at reading her", and you can keep me accountable of my read.
lol rayn ^^ i'm not writing off your read. i care more about how you get to reads and what you do with them, though
pues, tbh i don't know about yamato? he's not really a pocket read of mine, and i don't have a great record with him. like i can poke at him but i don't know if what i got would be anything that i could get a read off of lol ><
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On June 18 2016 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2016 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
pues, tbh i don't know about yamato? he's not really a pocket read of mine, and i don't have a great record with him. like i can poke at him but i don't know if what i got would be anything that i could get a read off of lol >< Do you think it makes sense that he basically called us town and the sentence before said he thinks the game will probably evolve into one of me and you getting lynched?
lol we do have pretty recent history of tunneling the shit out of each other, and it could just be alluding to that? basically i have no reason to have a strong read on him one way or the other...which is why he hasn't made it into my list of people i don't think we should shoot
one thing that's bugging me was he was here but didn't seem to say much of anything, though
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On June 18 2016 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he is not calling us both town then why is he going to lose when one of us gets killed? Unless he ofc assumes he is mafia himself...
i get your point ^^ i'd be fine shooting him tonight lol but no, i'm not sure it's enough to make him definitively scum
let's see what he says! \o/
i'm more curious why cake has such a strong townread on him tbh
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On June 19 2016 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That sounds like Waveofshadow dumbass "oh boy not this again" which brushes away a scumread for any reason on him. I mean, a weak way to brush off a read or make a conclusion on something based on things that have not even happened because "sometimes that has happened before".
bleh.. idk how to explain it really, hope you get what i am saying.
yeah i do lol he's on my LIST
you and shape are not
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you should play heroes with me and lexy so he stops giving me the irritated why are you distracted when i'm TALKING TO YOU! look lol
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On June 19 2016 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Once more.  It's not a reactive read (which is what townies do), something happens -> you make a read out of it. This is like proactive, "i assume something will happen so i am making the conclusions beforehand". That's what mafia does, or pushes. I think we can both agree that in case me and you are both town us fighting against each other is not productive. yamato seems to be saying he thinks both of us are town. Why is he trying to promote such atmosphere? I can't really think of any other reasoning for that post.
lol yeah i see what you're saying here...i'll kill a yama with you!
seriously though >> he's gonna eat me :/ and i haven't even had breakfast yet
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On June 19 2016 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:nogames today. I don't like playing in hangover
;o; hearts?
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awww okies lol ^^
i'll be back later then so i don't get lexy'd...i'd describe it but then you'd have nightmares
nightmares, i tell you!
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-bobbles through the thread like a bobble-head doll-
jooooni don't let me forget about checking up on newbie dude...i can be forgetful ^^
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On June 19 2016 01:28 CopCake wrote:
Hello rsoultin talk to me and tell me when you think rayn is mafia.
i don't think he's mafia ^^
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On June 18 2016 20:11 Skynx wrote:Coolio Show nested quote +On June 18 2016 15:36 rsoultin wrote:
also shape can be town ^^ at least for the night lol This makes me think of my "he's not scummy (yet)" post from last game huehuehue
^ actually you can help me skynx a lynx...i don't know what you're referencing here lol
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On June 19 2016 03:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2016 20:11 Skynx wrote:On June 18 2016 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Skynx, Tina = rsoultin. Coolio On June 18 2016 15:36 rsoultin wrote:
also shape can be town ^^ at least for the night lol This makes me think of my "he's not scummy (yet)" post from last game huehuehue ^ actually you can help me skynx a lynx...i don't know what you're referencing here lol
disregard...I found it -rolls around the thread-
what do you think about skynx, shape? I'm actually thinking the cluelessness looks a bit different from the newbie game but I only skimmed ^^
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Lol I'm actually really cool with a vig shot between yama/cake right now ^^
Pretty comfortable w/ rayn/shape town and super and skynx feel townish to me, though those aren't the strongest reads
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nh...ye i thought about this, too, the whole try to kill town vs. try to kill scum thing, and tbh it's nice to have people going into d1 you have strong townreads on instead of kinda maybe leans and what if i'm wrong?! reads on...not sure if i'm making sense or not lol
like, on paper, odds are better but i don't believe that actually takes into account how reliable reads on the remaining players are likely to be
also, regarding super, joni...i could be wrong which is why i'm not grouping him with you or shape, but i just got this laidback inquisitiveness vibe from him when the game opened lol...so yay tonal thing
On June 18 2016 07:47 Superbia wrote:
rso are you trolly as town or mafia? 2lazy2checkmeta
On June 18 2016 07:51 Superbia wrote:
When rso gets serious I no longer want to read her posts iirc :p
#h8bigposters
it's an overall filter thing but these quotes illustrate what i'm talking about, i think. trying to engage and poke at things but not being all uber serious about it i.e. at ease
lol sorry that's the best way i can explain it
as for cake...idk it's less GOD SHE'S SCUM and more nothing that really makes me think town. like her poking at me to interact with her without really saying anything or prompting any sort of interaction? i make some allowances cause her English can get dicey but she's coming off flat to me
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that's fair ^^ we're celebrating father's day today so i won't be back till tonight
ciao folkets...though i do think we should all decide who we want to vig shot as if it were a lynch...i don't like this blind pm world stuff much
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On June 19 2016 09:45 CopCake wrote:Do you know why I asked that Rayn? Because you were saying you wanted to shot Rsoul. Also Tina Why am I mafia? I don't think you are mafia because you are being logical and I liked you said that my english get in their way but just tell me so I can clarify that.
PoE
i understand you fine lol. the comment was really more of a "i don't need cake to make perfect sense to feel comfortable townreading her" than "i can't figure out what she means"
i don't really find anything wrong per se with you picking out super and yama as your only reads when you first enter the thread, if you know anything new happened. but you really didn't do anything much with it. few reads, little progression, yama as a read at all is a bit mind-boggling too when that read settles on town cause he didn't do anything
basically your filter doesn't look like you're trying to solve the game at all even this late into n0 (especially if rayn isn't even a scumread for you because then i have no idea who you even are scumreading)
so i want cake or yama and i'm not too concerned which, though i disagree with super that yama is "obv" goon here lol >< i actually think it quite possible he could be gf to cake's goon and i'm just arrogant enough to think that my initial reads could actually all be right 
everyone should commit to who we're willing to vote for btw
i think i'd prefer a yama shot for the above reason but am fine with either
(also, trying to ignore being on anyone's PoE list behind so many players phoning it in is haaaard even if i know that i get reads like that out of fear lolol ><)
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eh i'm not really feeling a sup shot, rayn. i get why you're gunning for him but i don't think he's scum lol i wish i could remember the name of the game but the one where he claimed blue and we lynched him anyway without a cc cause he was just THAT AWFUL when he was claiming no time?
yeah, his posts here aren't giving me the same vibe/feeling/etc.
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On June 20 2016 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i still don't get why you ignore the evidence against Superbia.
I mean, i know where you are coming from, but like....
I don't see much sense in him not understanding where i am coming from with the thing on him, and i can't understand why he scumreads you for PoE when he already has 2 other scumreads, that doesn't make much sense to me. What else has he done?
Mmm. I ignore most disagreements based on misunderstanding cause that isn't alignment indicative. On phone or I'd go back to remember the disagreement I was ignoring lol something to do w/ whether or not he should be making a meta read when he can't remember the game.
Like tbh I sometimes remember what happened in a game but am not sure on the player, too, so that doesn't seem weird to me you know?
Regarding the scumread bit whatevs. He can answer that. I can see town doing it but don't want to explain why cause that gives him an out and my townlean is just that...a lean.
Why exactly is what cake said a dumbtell though? Like...saying you always buss in a game where the goon shouldn't buss doesn't strike me as a dumbtell. It strikes me as a stupid argument lol
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Btw I want 2/3 people to shoot from everyone in order of preference. That includes you cake.
Yam/cake
Not much time left to the night phase
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I want to shoot who I think is scum, super. Simple as that. Obv goon will want to protect gf but that doesn't mean whoever rolled gf automatically is going to play well, now does it?
All it means is that if we end up shooting the goon whoever pushed it gets no towncred.
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...lol like I was going to say that if I was going to shoot my top town read it would be rayn...as sarcasm to show how retarded that line of thinking is
If we're honestly going to play the by russian roulette best chance for a random scrum lynch d1 game just shoot me and let scrum shoot rayn
Then you guys can sift through what's left and we'll see what the roll of a dice gets you
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