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On June 13 2016 19:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 19:06 Palmar wrote:
Nothing has changed. Rels is 100% mafia. The last one I'm not sure. Maybe Chez, maybe SL, maybe Tumble, maybe I'm bad and it's VE.
I think LS has to be town for his failing at taunting artanis. I don't think he can fake that. I don't even know what you're talking about with regard to LS.
Artanis is not salty at the moment. In fact, he's probably laughing his ass off at our incompetence (tbh, no regrets, damdred should've played better).
LS keeps posting salt, as if that's a thing. This means LS has no idea how Artanis actually feels about the state of game (which, I imagine is essentially gleeful). If LS is reading Artanis gloating in the QT or whatever, he doesn't think of posting salt.
This means LS is less likely to be scum.
And tbh, we don't have that many mislynches left. Town seems intent on making me one, and if you're town VE, another one.
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Okay I will refute this case from VE refgardless of his real alignment:
On June 13 2016 18:18 VisceraEyes wrote:I think the next person I want to lynch is LightningStrike. I was afraid that I was just OMGUS at first as he's been on my shit all game, but having gone back over his posts, a lot of it seems like it's coming from Mafia. Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Welp that sucks a lot. Both of our blues been outed now and we lynched a townie. Shapelog tried to do shannies onto WBG in the last 5 minutes which would of made it impossible to do. This post right here. I believe this post betrays LightningStrike's informed position. Like, even if he strongly believes both claims, which I can't imagine because both of them were given under threat of lynch, making a statement like "both of our blues been outed" just seems too strong to come from town. Especially considering the fact that he was so "distrusting" of the claim BEFORE the lynch, observe: Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2016 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
shapelog is fakkke claimingggg Wait wtf you are ccing Shape? Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:48 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker if you are ccing vote Shapelog now. If you not you causing a mess. Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Man my head is confused now about sicklucker vs Shape in terms of claiming. Sicklucker claiming Shapelog's claim is fake. Ugh I want oru tracker to get on one of them and see which one is telling the truth. Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 05:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Well there was the hammer. If Shape flips town we lynching Sicklucker 100% Day 2. Sicklucker hadn't claimed anything, he just exhibited what is, in my opinion, a TOWNIE'S reaction to someone claiming under duress - saying "ITS FAKE!" Like...I don't know, that's been my experience anyway. I'm initially distrusting of claims, especially claims under duress. And at first it SEEMS like LS feels the same way, but directly after the lynch he just says "Both our blues outed", which as it turned out, they were. Damdred and Shapelog WERE in fact, both of our blue roles. This is essentially the most damning thing I found in his filter. There's a bunch of being horribly wrong about me, but Koshi the Townie was wrong about me so obviously not only scum want to lynch me. I'd be really surprised if NO mafia wanted to lynch me though - I've given this town every opportunity to want to lynch me, and at least one confirmed townie has been calling for my head, it seems inevitable that at least one mafia would follow suit, but that's really meh and like, how do you tell the difference?
Sicklucker is actually known for doing stupid shit at times especially with blue claiming. In fact sicklucker did fake claim blue in Imperial Mafia as a VT so hence my comment if he fake ccing he was making a mess. Then Damdred claimed hence m comment about both blues being outed but then the fact DAy 2 I tried to lynch before Lex cc'd Damdred then we had to lynch them so you trying to say you gave us every opptertunity to lynch is bullshit. Noone really wanted to lynch Day 1 except maybe Shapelog if I remember correctly.. If you are scum ya goodluck mislynching me in fact I only been mislynched once past Day 2 so you going after me past Day 2 is cute at best. Try harder trying to mislynch people. If you playing this badly as town I probably just will avoid playing with you for a while.
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On June 13 2016 19:36 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 19:06 Palmar wrote:
Nothing has changed. Rels is 100% mafia. The last one I'm not sure. Maybe Chez, maybe SL, maybe Tumble, maybe I'm bad and it's VE.
I think LS has to be town for his failing at taunting artanis. I don't think he can fake that. I don't even know what you're talking about with regard to LS.
He's right on that regard though. LS is always scummy as town, you can't read him via that metric. But by his natural tone he's not scum this game
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On June 13 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:I am going to post the case one more time, because you all seem to have tiny brains so maybe just posting the case over and over in different formats helps you understand. This is why Rels has been mafia since day 1: Show nested quote +On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. This is a super normal post from a 1st time player. It barely gets more normal. To paraphrase the post, it's something like this. 1) Hello Everyone! 2) I'm inexperienced but I'll try anyway, *gives 2 townreads* 3) explains townreads It's literally everything you could possibly want from a 1st post. Sure, it doesn't make him lock town (he was), or even anything more than "meh", but it's certainly not a reason to build a scumcase that Rels never let go of throughout the entire day, and kept basically painting everything kwah said as scummy. Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote KwahamotPrepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. In hindsight, Rels additionally jumped Shapelog's post to attack kwah. Knowing Shapelog was town that would add extra credibility (and deniability) to Rels' attack. This was not a "prepared" post by kwah. Sure he used awkward statement, but it was nothing like the game thing Ritoky did in the last game where the entire content and everything was not about the game at all. Calling it a prepared post is 100% bullshit. Second, there's two types of newbies who make newbie excuses. newbie towns and newbie scum. There is nothing insincere about this post. Calling the reads "random" is just building something scummy out of something that isn't. On what basis are the reads "random"? Even if they aren't great or well supported they're definitely not random, he even gave reasons for them! Throughout the day, my memory may be off here, Rels kept picking apart more stuff from kwah, which is also bad because even if kwah is mafia, mafia doesn't give themselves away with just about every post. It's usually just a single or two thing that is off. Basically, Rels is scum and we should kill him.
You cannot believe this. So you're scum. (= This is exactly how I find scum, by pressuring the hell out of my target.. Since the newbie's reaction was bad and he went AFK after that he was scum. But actually he was scummy town.
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Can't wait for the day where Palmar and I fight to death. That should be interesting.
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What if a giant bus is going on and VE, LS, Rels and Palmar are all scum?
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I don't know who to vote anymore guys.
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Chez, SL, Tumble, we need to vote fast and as a team before they get a majority on one of us!
I know it was funny to vote for confirmed town at the start of the day but we need to get it together now.
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I dont think anyone finds these posts remotely entertaining
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On June 13 2016 21:02 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think anyone finds these posts remotely entertaining
On June 13 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
His claim of aware unaware wanderer has been proven false! I'm still confirmed town. Y'all are being bad. ![[image loading]](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1524359/images/o-SODIUM-facebook.jpg)
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Im acually so mad at this game right now tho. And we probably have to wait a week untilll anything happens because were probably sleeping. And then we have to get fucking 2 mafia inarow without any towns voting wrong. Which is acualy fucking impossible since you all have different fucking mafia reads. Mafias in a spot where they can just bus and win every single time too. Woudlnt even shock me if its like rels/palmar or ls/ve
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and Ls doesint even know what being salty means fuck. oh and koshi lost us a lynch
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On June 13 2016 20:32 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I will refute this case from VE refgardless of his real alignment: Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 18:18 VisceraEyes wrote:I think the next person I want to lynch is LightningStrike. I was afraid that I was just OMGUS at first as he's been on my shit all game, but having gone back over his posts, a lot of it seems like it's coming from Mafia. On June 09 2016 06:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Welp that sucks a lot. Both of our blues been outed now and we lynched a townie. Shapelog tried to do shannies onto WBG in the last 5 minutes which would of made it impossible to do. This post right here. I believe this post betrays LightningStrike's informed position. Like, even if he strongly believes both claims, which I can't imagine because both of them were given under threat of lynch, making a statement like "both of our blues been outed" just seems too strong to come from town. Especially considering the fact that he was so "distrusting" of the claim BEFORE the lynch, observe: On June 09 2016 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:On June 09 2016 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
shapelog is fakkke claimingggg Wait wtf you are ccing Shape? On June 09 2016 05:48 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker if you are ccing vote Shapelog now. If you not you causing a mess. On June 09 2016 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Man my head is confused now about sicklucker vs Shape in terms of claiming. Sicklucker claiming Shapelog's claim is fake. Ugh I want oru tracker to get on one of them and see which one is telling the truth. On June 09 2016 05:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Well there was the hammer. If Shape flips town we lynching Sicklucker 100% Day 2. Sicklucker hadn't claimed anything, he just exhibited what is, in my opinion, a TOWNIE'S reaction to someone claiming under duress - saying "ITS FAKE!" Like...I don't know, that's been my experience anyway. I'm initially distrusting of claims, especially claims under duress. And at first it SEEMS like LS feels the same way, but directly after the lynch he just says "Both our blues outed", which as it turned out, they were. Damdred and Shapelog WERE in fact, both of our blue roles. This is essentially the most damning thing I found in his filter. There's a bunch of being horribly wrong about me, but Koshi the Townie was wrong about me so obviously not only scum want to lynch me. I'd be really surprised if NO mafia wanted to lynch me though - I've given this town every opportunity to want to lynch me, and at least one confirmed townie has been calling for my head, it seems inevitable that at least one mafia would follow suit, but that's really meh and like, how do you tell the difference? Sicklucker is actually known for doing stupid shit at times especially with blue claiming. In fact sicklucker did fake claim blue in Imperial Mafia as a VT so hence my comment if he fake ccing he was making a mess. Then Damdred claimed hence m comment about both blues being outed but then the fact DAy 2 I tried to lynch before Lex cc'd Damdred then we had to lynch them so you trying to say you gave us every opptertunity to lynch is bullshit. Noone really wanted to lynch Day 1 except maybe Shapelog if I remember correctly.. If you are scum ya goodluck mislynching me in fact I only been mislynched once past Day 2 so you going after me past Day 2 is cute at best. Try harder trying to mislynch people. If you playing this badly as town I probably just will avoid playing with you for a while.
this is one of the first games I've played in a long ass time because of shit like this. And obviously it's going to be my last for a while. Yes, I'm town. Yes, I'm having a bad game. If that's enough for you to avoid playing with me, then that's your loss. It's certainly not mine.
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On June 13 2016 20:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 19:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 13 2016 19:06 Palmar wrote:
Nothing has changed. Rels is 100% mafia. The last one I'm not sure. Maybe Chez, maybe SL, maybe Tumble, maybe I'm bad and it's VE.
I think LS has to be town for his failing at taunting artanis. I don't think he can fake that. I don't even know what you're talking about with regard to LS. He's right on that regard though. LS is always scummy as town, you can't read him via that metric. But by his natural tone he's not scum this game
You can't read him by X. But he's not scum because of X.
Your argument is invalid.
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On June 13 2016 20:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:I am going to post the case one more time, because you all seem to have tiny brains so maybe just posting the case over and over in different formats helps you understand. This is why Rels has been mafia since day 1: On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. This is a super normal post from a 1st time player. It barely gets more normal. To paraphrase the post, it's something like this. 1) Hello Everyone! 2) I'm inexperienced but I'll try anyway, *gives 2 townreads* 3) explains townreads It's literally everything you could possibly want from a 1st post. Sure, it doesn't make him lock town (he was), or even anything more than "meh", but it's certainly not a reason to build a scumcase that Rels never let go of throughout the entire day, and kept basically painting everything kwah said as scummy. On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote KwahamotPrepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. In hindsight, Rels additionally jumped Shapelog's post to attack kwah. Knowing Shapelog was town that would add extra credibility (and deniability) to Rels' attack. This was not a "prepared" post by kwah. Sure he used awkward statement, but it was nothing like the game thing Ritoky did in the last game where the entire content and everything was not about the game at all. Calling it a prepared post is 100% bullshit. Second, there's two types of newbies who make newbie excuses. newbie towns and newbie scum. There is nothing insincere about this post. Calling the reads "random" is just building something scummy out of something that isn't. On what basis are the reads "random"? Even if they aren't great or well supported they're definitely not random, he even gave reasons for them! Throughout the day, my memory may be off here, Rels kept picking apart more stuff from kwah, which is also bad because even if kwah is mafia, mafia doesn't give themselves away with just about every post. It's usually just a single or two thing that is off. Basically, Rels is scum and we should kill him. You cannot believe this. So you're scum. (= This is exactly how I find scum, by pressuring the hell out of my target.. Since the newbie's reaction was bad and he went AFK after that he was scum. But actually he was scummy town.
You pressure people for reasonable reasons when you're town
You pressure peopl for unreasonable reasons when you're mafia
It's not the "what" it's the "how" 
this will be fun.
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Palmar, what's your read on Chezinu?
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On June 13 2016 21:06 sicklucker wrote:
Im acually so mad at this game right now tho. And we probably have to wait a week untilll anything happens because were probably sleeping. And then we have to get fucking 2 mafia inarow without any towns voting wrong. Which is acualy fucking impossible since you all have different fucking mafia reads. Mafias in a spot where they can just bus and win every single time too. Woudlnt even shock me if its like rels/palmar or ls/ve
A good start would be to agree with me.
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On June 13 2016 21:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar, what's your read on Chezinu?
Essentially, nothing.
I think it's kind of off that he thinks I may possibly be mafia, but maybe he's no better than the rest you so who knows.
I am terrible at reading weird people in general, so I usually don't try.
Like if I'm going to lynch Chez ever this game, it's probably going to be on poe.
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But he's done things.
I hate that you don't have a read because it makes me think you're mafia even though I think you're town.
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Like I said I thought you were mafia earlier but I didn't really, that's just me giving up. Like, I feel right now the same way I feel that first game where you fucked me in the ASS Palmar, that's how I feel. And I feel like it makes you mafia. But I think you're town. What do I do?!!??
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On June 13 2016 21:36 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 21:06 sicklucker wrote:
Im acually so mad at this game right now tho. And we probably have to wait a week untilll anything happens because were probably sleeping. And then we have to get fucking 2 mafia inarow without any towns voting wrong. Which is acualy fucking impossible since you all have different fucking mafia reads. Mafias in a spot where they can just bus and win every single time too. Woudlnt even shock me if its like rels/palmar or ls/ve A good start would be to agree with me.
your acualy agreeing with me. You just dont know it. but yes attacking ls for not knowing something is sadly a dumb reason to attack him. If it was anyone else you probably had a point
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