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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:11 GMT
#943
On May 26 2016 08:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Would lynch for the ridicluous fear lynch comment alone. Holy shit.

the only reason why I moved from HF to ritoky.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:12 GMT
#944
On May 26 2016 08:10 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Ritoky was not lying.
I can see why Ritoky thought it was a fear lynch. It basically was.
A fear lynch is lynching someone because you are afraid their play could be an example of their very good scumgame, even though they don't look that scummy.

nobody moved to HF for that reason. Nobody.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:24 GMT
#950
On May 26 2016 02:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 02:10 Damdred wrote:
So I had things come up and I think I'm like 20 pages behind. Who should I specifically look at atm?


Look at Superbia, LS, Ritoky, HF in that order IMO.

On May 26 2016 02:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
##unvote
##vote ritoky

On May 26 2016 02:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
##unvote
##vote hf


these 3 posts were made in succession by you Kush. Please remember why you had ritoky on that list. I don't know what the fuck you are doing here but if you are going to change your scumread of ritoky into a townread by rationalizing something that is so fucking scummy into something that wasn't scummy you can fucking go and die after ritoky.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:26 GMT
#951
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:28 GMT
#952
Also fear lynching really indicates that the people who were currently voting for HF were town. Which is not that farfetched. So really.. could be a slip as well.

nha. After a reread I am sure I will have enough proof he is mafia.

got to go to bed now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:31 GMT
#953
I lied. I went over his filter:
On May 26 2016 04:29 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 04:27 Superbia wrote:
On May 26 2016 04:24 ritoky wrote:
On May 26 2016 04:18 Superbia wrote:
Rit what do you think of HF?


Probably town who is largely being fear lynched currently.


Fear lynched by me, Palmar and Marv? Which of these fear HF?


You're full tunnel OMGUS, Palmar's reason is not compelling, Marv is sheeping Palmar; kush, koshi, and jat are fear lynching.

and he ended up on HF because:
On May 26 2016 06:54 ritoky wrote:
Koshi spams ritoky is mafia all game - the original story.

Nothing is changing, I think this lynch is wrong; but most of my TRs are on it, so idk maybe I am the bad one this game.

##vote: holyflare

also dat tidbit about me is just roflcopter ridiculous.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:31 GMT
#954
100.000% mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:35 GMT
#955
On May 26 2016 06:27 ritoky wrote:
Palmar just seems town, idk what you see there. Superbia looked scummy last I checked but I gave him a pass because of an associative read regarding you, but you're pushing him now so that kinda fucks that up. Could vote him. Pretty sure damdred has absolutely 0 convictions about anything this game and is underwhelming although I haven't clicked his filter yet to confirm that. I said why I want to lynch rels, nothing has changed. Tumble reconsidering jumbled my brain....idk...still don't like him, but if he asked me on a date I would say maybe next week but I am kinda busy.

like he makes this post in between.... then ends up on HF?

never ever ever ever ever ever ever.

look last game and how he kept voting rsoultin.



And the last mafia is probably the guy who kept saying he didn't like ritoky because his plan is to play "reactionary". Except if that person is one of my new townreads. But if it is somebody like Superbia or Tumble. ezkill. and if it isn't those 2 it is Kush. He has both hf and ritoky and now after one of the people in his list flips mafia he disregards and defends a big name in his list even though the people not on his list are pretty much lock town in his mind. lolololol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:38 GMT
#957
On May 26 2016 08:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 08:35 Koshi wrote:
On May 26 2016 06:27 ritoky wrote:
Palmar just seems town, idk what you see there. Superbia looked scummy last I checked but I gave him a pass because of an associative read regarding you, but you're pushing him now so that kinda fucks that up. Could vote him. Pretty sure damdred has absolutely 0 convictions about anything this game and is underwhelming although I haven't clicked his filter yet to confirm that. I said why I want to lynch rels, nothing has changed. Tumble reconsidering jumbled my brain....idk...still don't like him, but if he asked me on a date I would say maybe next week but I am kinda busy.

like he makes this post in between.... then ends up on HF?

never ever ever ever ever ever ever.

look last game and how he kept voting rsoultin.



And the last mafia is probably the guy who kept saying he didn't like ritoky because his plan is to play "reactionary". Except if that person is one of my new townreads. But if it is somebody like Superbia or Tumble. ezkill. and if it isn't those 2 it is Kush. He has both hf and ritoky and now after one of the people in his list flips mafia he disregards and defends a big name in his list even though the people not on his list are pretty much lock town in his mind. lolololol

That would be rels.

ohyeah that guy. That guy is fucking mafia with ritoky then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:42 GMT
#958
mafia:
On May 25 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
Page 7:
I liked Damdred's reason to push LS (LS not being tinfoily enough about HF + Damdred). Could be town.
I liked LS' reaction to the pressure, as scum I would have expected him to either be fakely emotional or just dismiss it. Could be town.

HF gets 0 credit for this push, fake or not.


I don't like ritoky post announcing he will play the whole game reactively, which is exactly what scum tends to do. I don't like these in his second posts:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 08:19 ritoky wrote:
- Kush is not mafia with LightningStrike Posts 85-88
- Holyflare is not mafia with Damdred: Posts 87-93

Looks like the exact things a scum would say to look like he's contributing.

I don't like Tumble saying he thinks HF's pressure is fake, then treating it like it is real:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 24 2016 08:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Mmm I'm not on with this LS TMI stuff, seems like Damdred/HF are just going for reactions. Should get the game rolling though.

On May 24 2016 08:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 08:14 Holyflare wrote:
One can only assume from inference.

I get that you said LS confirmed Koshi town, but I didn't feel there was much conviction in it, like you could see yourself voting him later in the game.

On May 24 2016 14:02 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
didnt really read any of ls's posts but holyflare targeting the weak link is classic mafia stuff. Like we get it its easy to mislynch ls. im probably wrong but im gonna be an ass about it anyway

mmmmm I'm gonna contest you on this one, mafia targets the weak link usually at some point but not early early D1. People in mafia have ADHD and can't wagon someone for more than half a day at a time.
HF might be scum but if he is it's for calling a scum slip with 100% certainty when it was kinda iffy.



On May 25 2016 20:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:14 Superbia wrote:
Rels I expect you to evaluate HF's and JAT's alignment as well, rather than join in on this wagon against me. You believe they are both town?

I think JAT is town.
I have no read on HF but I agree with basically everything he has written.
I'm not caught up so I'm not joining any wagon, just calling out things I'm seeing.

On May 26 2016 06:41 Rels wrote:
I do not want to lynch HF.
I want to lynch Superbia for being abbrasive like last game and not smart and pretty useless for his long filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Superbia


ohyeah. So fucking mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:44 GMT
#959
Rels and his boner for ritoky and HF is real.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:45 GMT
#960
next game I am going to get misslynched. I don't understand... Why do I post this much....
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 25 2016 23:48 GMT
#962
1 more thing. Rels feeling guilty and feels he need to reread while his filter is filled with suspicion towards hf and ritoky is just hilarious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 10:20 GMT
#1023
Ritoky rels mafia
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 11:14 GMT
#1043
ritoky and rels still mafia.

I always knew it was either super/marv/palmar or hf/ritoky/+1random dude aka Rels.

At times it just looked more option a.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 11:16 GMT
#1047
On May 26 2016 20:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
ritoky and rels still mafia.

I always knew it was either super/marv/palmar or hf/ritoky/+1random dude aka Rels.

At times it just looked more option a.

Superbia can also be easily with HF.

People keep saying that but meh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 11:17 GMT
#1050
If the evidence wasn't so damning for ritoky and Rels I would also still entertain a Palmar/marv scumteam. How it all went down could have been a set-up. But it's very unlikely. Because others are soooo mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 11:19 GMT
#1052
On May 26 2016 20:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 20:16 Koshi wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
ritoky and rels still mafia.

I always knew it was either super/marv/palmar or hf/ritoky/+1random dude aka Rels.

At times it just looked more option a.

Superbia can also be easily with HF.

People keep saying that but meh.


its very possible espeically the way hf played. but his other lynch target tumbleweed i doubt it. dont think he would blatantly push his scumbait partner who no one was paying attention too. super sure alot of people thought he was mafia anyway

Yeah. If I entertain a superbia mafia read it is because of what you said. The town trifecta is real bro.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 11:48 GMT
#1080
On May 26 2016 20:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
ritoky and rels still mafia.

I always knew it was either super/marv/palmar or hf/ritoky/+1random dude aka Rels.

At times it just looked more option a.


Let's explore!

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand how you can be so certain of tumblewood being mafia that you completely ditch your evaluation of Superbia looking scummy ritoky.

+1

Please use head ritoky. ritoky town though.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:06 Koshi wrote:
These two quotes are troubling, and could be mafia indicative. They both center around Superbia's meta tell on LS. Firstly he is repeating it (twice) but not indicating what it is, which to some degree I can understand but in another sense makes it more likely fake. Secondly even though it is accurate from his knowledge, he isn't choosing to believe it for a not particularly convincing reason since earlier he was saying that LS was leaning mafia. Thirdly, he desires more from LS to fully form his read.

That last one is the troubling one: "I'm looking for something more" to me implies that Superbia is going to put the screws to or pressure LS for more information so that he can judge if his meta-tell is legitimate or not. So what does Superbia do? Banter with JAT, direct 0 questions or statements toward LS, and generally ignore him after this post. You think he was leaning mafia, you have a meta-tell you are somewhat confident in, and you want more information from LS; so you just ignore him? How is that advancing your read or the game in a meaningful way?

This could be indicative of partners trying to establish a bus for the future. As I said before in my RMC of Tumblewood, I believe that there is almost always a mafia between Tumble and LS due to the timing and over-the-top nature of the reads they gave on eachother; in the event that Tumble is town I think there is a very high likelihood that Superbia is with LS.

Everything here is good. Especially the last paragraph shows clear townie mindset. You might not agree with things like the first sentence in the last paragraph, but I can see a town solving the game write it. And the rest shows that same mindset. Town solving game.


... But then, all of a sudden...

Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote ritoky

100% mafia. Defending somebody with false reasons. There are no reasons to think we are fearlynching. But with ritoky showing this much face maybe hf is mafia after all.


Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote ritoky


Like I don't know if this is a thing, but once it became clear HF was going to get lynched, crooked koshi did almost a random 180 on ritoky. I have no idea if it means anything, and if anything, what it means...

It's just a weird observation.

Koshi mind works in ways that cannot be logically explained.


Yeah, he would have done good if he didn't scumclaim.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
May 26 2016 11:49 GMT
#1081
Also marv can EASILY be mafia. I am 100% behind sicklucker.

The only reason marv maybe is not mafia is because he is cursing and calling people morons and retards etc.
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