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On May 06 2016 22:02 Shapelog wrote: I think about it. Sign u up and bump you down if newbies swarm us. Thanks!  | ||
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On May 11 2016 18:51 geript wrote: I have already agreed to coach the little scum wannabies. Your donation to this great cause is greatly appreciated. I wannabe a scum wannabe! | ||
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On May 09 2016 23:22 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: i want to in but there's no more room for non newbs You are a newb so you can sign in as a newbie you know.  | ||
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On May 20 2016 22:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: you butchered the link to my filter in the op I personally like my link. | ||
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On May 23 2016 17:03 Rels wrote: Welcome (= For a mini, between 500 and 1500 depending on the spamminess of the player list. Why would one of you get banned from the site ? p: Should it ever happen, I think you usually get banned by account name and not via IP unless there is a reason to IP ban you so it shouldn't matter. probably 2000 posts what with me here o/ jkjk I'll try to keep the spamminess down.  | ||
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On May 23 2016 21:29 QuickTwist wrote: Yeah, its a big range. 500 posts day one would be no problem, but I'm going to be playing in another game where there are roughly 600-800 posts, so if its like 1500 on top of that it might be a bit difficult. But against my better judgement, /In I'm counting on me not having to play 2 day ones at the same time. ayeeE welcome. :D | ||
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On May 27 2016 06:41 emperorchampion wrote: Total noob here, I'd be willing to give it a go! I've been following the other mafia game for a couple days now, seems interesting. you should say /in to make it official. :D | ||
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On May 31 2016 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote: Hello. I'd like to /in as a newbie. I do have some mafia experience on the internet but I would not say that I am an experienced player. Welcome! :D If you have any questions feel free to ask. You'll have a blast playing and a coach to help so no worries. | ||
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Edit: plzerino no modkillerino nocturnemage <33 | ||
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On June 02 2016 20:05 NocturneMage wrote: Answer this question - did HTS/Onegu/GB/Fidei/Koshi or any one else corrupt you into playing dota? If the answer is no, you have nothing to be afraid of  i have never played dota! On June 03 2016 01:19 scott31337 wrote: I'm back from my vacation /replace Welcome back! | ||
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On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I think this is going to be a really slow game unless the newbs talk a lot. None of the vets are big talkers. BOI I GOT THIS On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:3) MooooooosyDooooosy - if he looks scummy, he's town. if he looks townie, he's scum. lmaoo this is actually pretty tru  On June 04 2016 06:44 QuickTwist wrote: GLHF. I sincerely hope I get my ass handed to me. DarthPunk told me the competition here is good. If I am an above average players here, that is going to not reflect very well on this community. You have been warned. I am not very good at this game. that won't happen w/ this player list. The vets will be too busy squabbling over each other about how someone used emoticons or something while Mafia will get away. :D Basically: competition =/= good at game. It just means we shit on each other a lot more. On June 04 2016 08:03 Superbia wrote: First person to hard claim mafia gets a free d1 read&pass. I'd like to hard claim Mafia mmmmmmmmm On June 04 2016 08:05 QuickTwist wrote: Hi, I have a PR and I think I should be the first NK. veteran or mafia On June 04 2016 08:07 QuickTwist wrote: I;m getting a town read on Sup... for really no reason. veteran or mafia or mafia On June 04 2016 08:10 QuickTwist wrote: I will not be claiming mafia, sorry do much disappoint. veteran or mafia or mafia or mafia | ||
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##Vote: QuickTwist hopefully this is the TL Mafia format, I've been playing on other sites too much lately. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:03 Superbia wrote: ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Which i'm gonna sheep. ##Unvote ##Vote: MoosyDoosy | ||
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If we refine our knowledge of CRISPR we can basically cure genetic diseases and make all mosquitoes male so they don't bite humans and spread shit like malaria, Zika, etc. Common genetic diseases include Tay-Sachs Disease, Down Syndrome, forms of cancer, Parkinson's Disease, etc. So we can cure millions of lives. On the other hand, we can change the cosmetic appearances of our children at will like height, eye color, hair color. Not to mention increase physical capabilities. So supersoldiers aren't far off. The problem I have with this is that people will try to fit a social stereotype of an attractive appearance which is harmful for people's conceptions of themselves. Not to mention it creates a division between the rich and poor since editing embryos requires in vitro fertilization which is an expensive process. Also, there's the issue of personhood with embryos. Should we be allowed to edit embryos? Are they "people" yet at an embryonic stage or until they're born and develop thought? What about as a fetus when their brain starts developing or they start feeling pain? All questions to think about. So what are your thoughts? Pro-CRISPR or anti-CRISPR? :3 | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:16 Tumblewood wrote: Damn QT reads already? Usually on TL we just screw around for the first few hours. Also please use full names if possible. Had to re-read this twice before I was like 0pps that's QuickTwist not a QT thread. lolol. It's not really an issue because context but it's just annoying. | ||
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Not sure what you mean here. | ||
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I can take the modkill at EoD. I actually have a few times. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:33 Jealous wrote: I assume that's directed at me. Does my verbosity intimidate you? It shouldn't, because I only aim to benefit the town, and my analysis of words and their use (as part of my job) should of benefit here. should be of benefit here* : ] | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: dear god why are there 20 pages already THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING TO MYSELF RIGHT NOW | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:11 Jealous wrote: Well, that went 0-100 pretty quickly and for no reason as far as I can tell. Dodgy answer, trying to cast shade on another... THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT YOU'RE CASTING JUST AS MUCH SHADE IF NOT MORE THAN THEM DOOOOOOD | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:23 Jealous wrote: I agree that I may be making mountains out of molehills, and you are also right in saying that we need to know why the molehill was constructed in the first place. However, with no pertinent explanation available, it is my inclination to lean scum on QuickTwist. lol wat. you're playing exactly the same as QuickTwist but you want to kill him. NICE | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote: ah goddammit I'm going after the low-hanging fruit I'll be back when kush or someone is in the thread so I can be productive i'm here | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:49 QuickTwist wrote: And I'll just say this right now. I am not a Vet. I know because I'm the vet. | ||
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On June 04 2016 10:27 Superbia wrote: I also feel like a bunch of people are talking out of their ass and I'm not sure if it's dumb-plan-town or mafia. exactly this but i"m sorry superbia bb you're mafia. | ||
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no lAd, this just doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On June 04 2016 12:01 Tumblewood wrote: going to take a break until I inevitably get bored and come back playing this game is just not fun for me right now because the only two active players are on (what I see as) the wrong track and set in it. feels like I'm talking to a brick wall. Talk to me buddy. Does Quicktwist and Jealous feel like two townies caught in an argument against each other and refusing to back down due to pride or is one of them Mafia? For some reason I keep getting hints of the second even though it really looks like the first. | ||
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On June 04 2016 16:11 Tumblewood wrote: holy shit I checked the thread one last time before going to bed Jealous and QT... ur bad, kidz what you see from TT is pretty normal behavior for early day 1, and you're so eager to jump onto people for easy reasons ("said something that wasn't productive", "off topic", "could be scum doing X stupid plan") and also don't recognize a joke when it's right in your face. I'm sitting somewhere between 'scum' and 'scrub' for both of you... it seems like one of QT and Jealous surely has to be mafia because they're both acting unnecessarily tryhard, but if they're both scum together then it must be the play of the century to keep a stupid conversation alive so long between two scumbuddies. nvm you just kind of answered my question with this. xdddd So is this still your thoughts right now? | ||
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On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. ok you just answered my question. Sometimes i think I should just read the thread before posting. Interesting thoughts. :3 | ||
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On June 04 2016 17:16 Tictock wrote: Caught up now, still gunna hold off giving reads till later though. + Show Spoiler [Boring Ass reasons why] + partially kus I've changed my mind about a couple of people, and partially kus I prefer to have seen posts from everyone I'll be at a party a large chunk of the evening tomorrow, but should be around plenty going into EoD. comeee baaaaaack | ||
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On June 04 2016 19:05 beentheredonethat wrote: Hello guys, I caught up. There's a lot already to read into. Based on continuous activity, "careless/fearless" pushes and cool refinements of thoughts, I think Superbia is town and we should regard his thoughts a lot. Almost every single page we currently have contains a post of him, and while initial posts might be banter, I can say that from my experience that starting a game is always kind of rough to do. Also, I like QuickTwist, also for the great activity. The fact that he votes Tumblewood because he gives him a townread ("I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?") makes me think he's town. However that brought me to filtering Tumblewood. The first two pages of his filter are useless. No pushes, no reads, nothing even remotely readable, which, for me, is mafia indicative. Well, page 3 is much better, and I like this line of thoughts: So I'd also note Tumblewood as town. Besides the players that have not posted yet or do have a very low post activity, my strongest mafia read as of now is MoosyDoosy. His posts do not make sense, they feel rushed, "activity for the sake of activity" to appear townie, and they're partially total offtopic (see the post about CRISPR). Voting himself, while even against the rules afaik, and spitting out a big post: + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: BOI I GOT THIS lmaoo this is actually pretty tru that won't happen w/ this player list. The vets will be too busy squabbling over each other about how someone used emoticons or something while Mafia will get away. :D Basically: competition =/= good at game. It just means we shit on each other a lot more. I'd like to hard claim Mafia mmmmmmmmm veteran or mafia veteran or mafia or mafia veteran or mafia or mafia or mafia He is just confusing. There is no straight pattern, and I cannot see a goal that he tries to follow. All he does is stirring up chaos, then disappearing. I think he is scum. ##vote MoosyDoosy Now THIS is a quality post. 10/10 nice job. | ||
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On June 04 2016 20:03 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: What if I were to tell you that moosy always plays like that as town? hush child. xd | ||
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On June 04 2016 20:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: No one is going to even find that post. It's a needle in a haystack. For me it's irrelevant because we aren't lynching either of you today. Can I convince you otherwise or are you looking at someone else right now? And now that I've fulfilled my activity requirement with useless posts to try and make me look town I'm gonna take my leave. | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:19 Tumblewood wrote: BTDT (that's what I'll be calling beentheredonethat for the rest of the game) is probably town because newbie scums tend to have a hard time making a coherent, decent case. i agree! that was the exact same read that i had :D | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote: Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says. BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies. yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me. | ||
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The pressure makes me crack and I become more serious. But then again, I'm semi-playing the game so that's a sign I might be scum after all! :DDD | ||
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you lot should be killing me. | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote: kush no, I'm not killing kush D1 he's probably out on a date with his fiancee, Ms. Policy Lynch then can we kill QuickTwist then kush? | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote: @tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost. fecal town meta = do nothing. But his town meta is also to start playing when he's about to get policy lynched so that's always an option. | ||
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On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote: Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you? Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway.So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me. | ||
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On June 05 2016 08:18 scott31337 wrote: Hey what's going on - let me catch up a bit hehHehEHeh hello scott. | ||
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On June 05 2016 10:12 QuickTwist wrote: Show me proof of this. The real question here is how do you know? I can't prove it unless I'm you but that's just the feeling I get. Players do it all the time to get others off their backs.On June 05 2016 10:16 QuickTwist wrote: you have to ask yourself if that is all I've done. Do you think I explained myself well enough with me debate with Jealous? Maybe I'm just not coming up with the way you would answer and that is scummy to you? As I said in my post, I understand why you would do something like that so that should say to you I've answered like that before. As for whether it's scummy or not, I did say it could be town struggling or scum so that's answered too.On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote: OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending. If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda. For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads. On June 05 2016 09:36 Jealous wrote: I see. Too bad you've shown your hand to all the newcomers as well ^^ Stay safe! What does tunneled mean btw? Yeah, there's no point in hiding my meta right now. It's my gimmick against vets but doesn't work against new players. It just distracts them which is a detriment especially with town players like beentheredonethat. tunneled means focusing on one person so much you can't see anything else and basically convince yourself that you're right. | ||
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On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote: So tumble is town, tictock is town, and moosy is town. Fuck it. All of them town. whattttt but i hardclaimed mafia a;sdkfjgh | ||
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On June 05 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote: beentheredonethat is mafia or a PR. So that resolves itself. town duh. On June 05 2016 22:28 Superbia wrote: emperorchampion and blkcoffee (I think it was blkcoffee) town too. bikcoffee's pretty town from what i recall. On June 05 2016 22:30 Superbia wrote: The jealous/quicky 'debate' was unlikely to be TvT. And I'm tempted to call quicky the mafia, because of jealous reads actually progressed during the 'debate'. But I'm not completely convinced yet. you might be town which makes me sad. | ||
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On June 06 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote: Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. | ||
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On June 05 2016 22:38 Superbia wrote: I feel like I can refine my reads but I'd rather be reading some manhwa. I'll be lurking and awaiting responses/people to talk. oh sht son which ones are you reading. :D do you use the webtoons site? | ||
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that sir is what we call a good read. | ||
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his post is actually really good. I like giving policy lynches some space before going after them. D1 should be spent lynching someone that we think has a high chance of flipping scum. If we don't get scum then going for policy lynches is fine. But D1 is so dynamic that using it to go for policy lynches is suuuuch a waste. | ||
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On June 06 2016 06:43 Tictock wrote: Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch. i'm giving out all the fluffy wovey dovey town vibes. :D which is strange for me. O.O does that mean I'm scum? o/ | ||
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On June 06 2016 04:44 Superbia wrote: Also I thought moosy was shapelog. Disregard my townread there. x: (though he may still be town) nice! | ||
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On June 06 2016 04:54 Superbia wrote: I voted moosy at the very second the game started. a wise choice tbh | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote: OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow. woooah hold up. I'm mafia and veteran but none of those roles beat being VT. As VT you have nothing to rely on and use yourself and your own posts to sift through town and Mafia. It's one of the most exciting roles in the game unless you roll it 8+ times in a row in which case it gets slightly boring. | ||
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he has to be town. if you don't get a role but need to fulfill the post requirement you assume a town mindset lol. | ||
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On June 06 2016 06:54 Fecalfeast wrote: Thinking like a townie before you get your role has nothing to do with your alignment or am i being oblivious to the joke? if you don't have a role and you have to post something i'd assume i'm townie and post townie things so as not to get lynched. i was just trying to explain what scott was doing. so no, he might not be town right now. | ||
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On June 06 2016 13:04 Jealous wrote: God damn my OCD is kicking in really hard over this megadata dump that's coming. I'm also realizing how many of you guys play/joke around so much that it's hard to tell what you really believe. yeahhhh......one of the harder parts of TL Mafia but we actually do mean what we say except for you. On that bright note I'd like to claim doctor. :3 On June 06 2016 13:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Sorry ff isn't scummy. Hmmm this dude skanks tho... Seems really unatural how hedges his read at the end when he acted so sure for the rest of the post. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 20:53 Skynx wrote: Good morning people! Not having much else to do I actually went through 3 pages of solid spam. I then also went to read QT filter: 1: Contentless town reads Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion. 2: Memes & one liners + Show Spoiler + 3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense So tumble posted this about the spam His response: As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is. 4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him. Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on. ##Vote: QuickTwist GODDAMMIT I wanted to lynch you but you go ahead and do that. | ||
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On June 06 2016 12:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Night moosey. Feel free to start finding scum any time now. good night !! I'm tempted to call you mafia for seeming to know quicktwist's alignment so well and it would make complete sense for you and jealous to be teammates but I'm not 100% sure on that read. Aaaand you're calling Skynx mafia which is one of my reads. hmph tumblew00d, beeentheeereeedoneeethat seem town. and shitfeast. oh and some tickitytock. i do like coffee too so i'm going with bikcafé. no idea about scotterino31337. he was town but that was be4 he got his role. there's superbia who i really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to kill but he looks town. which leaves me with emperorchAmpi0n, skankyskynx as scum. oh and you and jealous are in a weird spot for me. :D It's the special place in my heart where everyone too scummy to be town and too townie to be blue are in. one thing i know for certain is that i'm not going to die tonight since i'm the mafia goon and i'm dealing out the kp this night. ALso i'm doctor so i'm gonna protect skynx. aaaand as veteran i have another life so i'm completely oK for this night. | ||
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On June 06 2016 14:39 Superbia wrote: I need to hire some people to continue my townie agenda in case I die. Who's up for it? On June 06 2016 14:39 Superbia wrote: I'll be back later today to look at the applicants. Work for now. Just to let you know I reaaaaaally dislike it when someone acts like this, especially in a newbie game. Sure a town leader role is needed at some times but you inflate your importance which is irritating and makes you seem pretentious. There's also really no need to make people be "applicants" for you and act like they're waiting for you or something like that. Just talk with people on even terms. I'm as much of a lynch candidate as you are. There's absolutely no need to act otherwise. | ||
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I’m sticking by my read that Jealous was town so it looks like that whole shitfest at the start of the game was TvT which was totally unproductive. :D Mafia is probably in one of the quieter players which unfortunately seems to be amongst the newer players. I do think that there is one Mafia in the veterans hiding himself very well but that will come with time. IIIIIII think we should go for Skynx. Not completely sure though and I’d have to read through filters again. | ||
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On June 07 2016 14:50 Superbia wrote: Jealous can you react to my scum read on you in less than 4 sentences? Lie. False. Terrible. Bad. | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote: I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this. He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote: That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why? I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team. Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game? | ||
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On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote: I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations. | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:09 Superbia wrote: Ok so you think both kush and jealous are town? Who's your mafia team? I already gave that. I'll suggest it again. Reading the thread might be a good idea. | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote: Who's the scum moosy??? read the thread | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:11 emperorchampion wrote: So I'll take a shot at quicktwist's filter: A lot of reads, not sure where from. Purpose could be to create conversation. Seems towny, trying to get more information out of people. Taking the second level logic approach and scum reading superior. Overall agressive and bold claims. Agressive seems scummy, but seems risky to put yourself out so much early on. I can see the information seeking thought process, even if I don't agree with the overall thought process. Read: I'm thinking he's pretty town On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote: I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through). + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. On June 06 2016 03:12 emperorchampion wrote: I'll check back in a few hours before the deadline, but for now my vote lies with QT | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:19 emperorchampion wrote: Hmm pretty convienient you left out this post: That post gives absolutely no reasoning as to why you voted QuickTwist when you came back. What brought about the abrupt read change? | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:23 Skynx wrote: Why suddenly change your post style Moosy? I normally buckle down by N1/D2 after the D1 trolling euphoria dies out. | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote: I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team. So what's your read on Jealous now? | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote: So did you only read the first half of my filter, or do you have blinders on? No, I'm fairly certain I read all 3 pages. | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote: I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town. kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me. I'm presuming kush is Mafia based on the reasoning above? Looks like you also read Superbia and Skynx as mafia. Care to explain the Skynx read? | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote: Also I don't think I ever hard read QT as maf, just hypothosised that it was odd QT and Tumble were defending each other. This was the information I was interested in. I dunno you are trying to twist my words I feel I'm also still not quite convinced by this. Tumble was protecting QuickTwist, saying he's a newbie town. At the same time we saw kush protecting Jealous, calling him a newbie town. Why did you think Tumble and QuickTwist were a possible Mafia team and not kush/Jealous? | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote: I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through). + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. This post makes me raaather suspicious. Town read on QuickTwist, town lean on Tumble, slight scum read on Jealous. Then Tumble protects QuickTwist, kush protects Jealous and you voted QuickTwist off of the reasoning that Tumble and QuickTwist were a possible Mafia team. | ||
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On June 08 2016 00:43 emperorchampion wrote: Tumble went from "6/10 would lynch" to saying, actually maybe I won't, I think that's what I found most suspicious I see. Well questioning's over. For now I'd like other players' thoughts about this and I encourage people to read emperorchampion's filter again. o/ | ||
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On June 08 2016 03:23 Tictock wrote: Where are these teams coming from? This seems like you drew names out of a hat then went to think about if they made sense as a team. On June 08 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote: And just to take things a step too far... If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous just thought it was slightly ironic so I wanted to point it out | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:17 Tictock wrote: So you don't wanna answer my question? I just explained where I got my 3 names from. It's a shitty pre-flip associative based team. he listed me, kush, jealous as a team and you said his post was shitty. Then you gave the exact same team. Nice! | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:17 Superbia wrote: Haha it's pretty sick because I had that team like a few hours ago in my head. Maybe Jealous is town but I dislike Moosy's defense of him and general lack of direction. no, you're just bad and refusing to be good. on top of that, you're not reading the thread correctly which is why you're asking for things you should know the answers too and which is why you think i have no direction. but this is only my sixth time saying it so whatever. | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:38 Tictock wrote: I'd kinda like to get back to you on this. But gut feeling? Super FF Scott and probably... Emp Blkcoffee FF is town. | ||
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On June 08 2016 10:41 Fecalfeast wrote: ##vote beentheredonethat change your vote? I actually townread this dude. He was the only one with logical reasoning and thoughts in his posts. Sure the people he went after were lackluster but he's a waste of a vote right now imo. | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:48 emperorchampion wrote: How are these big targets? What about kush? Who do you think is more scummy. Skynx or kush? | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:49 emperorchampion wrote: Why not scott, he seems pretty scummy, no? in what way? | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:58 emperorchampion wrote: I will answer this after you tell me why you don't think scott is scum. Too little to go on. And you did answer anyway so it doesn't really matter. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:03 Skynx wrote: Are you reading the thread at all? Check votes, check my reads, my filter is clear about what I think of people. I mean, that's the issue. These are the only mentions/kind of mentions of kush I can find in your filter. On June 09 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote: Many people are sr'ing kush who is on my list. Almost no one is talking about TT who's my other sr altho he made some sense lately. So I'm suggesting people clarify their reads so we can pick a common target. On June 09 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote: To further elaborate, there is no way I'm wasting my vote on a coin-flip today. On June 09 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote: Anyway kush please show some defence man i feel like no one is even trying this game... On June 07 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote: My T>S meter Most Town emperor: reads on everything, has his own opinion, insightul for a non-vet, generally active Jealous: Prolly most active, no way he's a good target after QT. [orange]Midway[/orange[ Super: 9 pages filter wtf, mostly one liners, sr's me without basis, bandwagony. Scott: There is the whole didn't get my role pm thing, inactive otherwise Scummy Ticktock: Pressures me D1, changes opinion just before lynch, useless arguing about shennanie which leads to nothing, very vague reads on last few posts. In the end, try-hard to not take any pressure on himself. kush: Acts like this godly figure over the whole game but actual contributions are very small. Mostly arguing with everyone about how QT was bad lynch, teaching Jealous how to play mafia, tryin to find town leader. Gives no clear reads, mostly commenting on others reads. Again professional at acting natural and avoiding pressure. Null: Moosy is unreadable do to the nature of his posts btdt with some good some bad posts but kinda inactive, I can't rly read him blk is gone. One list of reads that says kush is scum. Others are soft pushes. You say that others are scum reading kush like you so we should vote him and you say you don't want to waste your vote. The only other real mention of kush is asking him to defend. Overall it seems you're not confident in the kush push which is why I was asking if you thought kush was scum in order to make sure I got it right. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:3) MooooooosyDooooosy - Scale of 1-5 how much fun are you having in this game? Does it compare to any recent games? Assume you are able to make some very game influential move before you die, would you prefer to clinch the game near LyLo or secure an early lead? Scale of 1-5 with 5 being the most fun I would be at a 2 right now. It would be fine if I knew what I was doing but I really don't. Not to mention there's no reliable town buddy to ping my thoughts off of. Recent games? Actually, there was one in the past where I had no idea what was happening and town pulled through. Might take a look at what happened in that game to pull us through. And I'd definitely prefer securing an early lead. That's the whole basis of my gambit and D1 style of play. Clinching the game near lylo makes me too stressed. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:47 Tictock wrote: Moosy, who would be your 2nd pick to lynch after Emp? skynx | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:06 Tictock wrote: Last question for you, I swear. Given that it looks like Kush might be getting lynched but he is not your pick, do you think he is a coinflip or is he more likely to flip one alignment over the other in your mind? HE'S GONNA FLIP TOWN | ||
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On June 06 2016 12:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: jealous, let the blues make their own decisions. Just help us figure out who is scum then convince people to vote that person. On June 06 2016 12:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: but being scum would not make him more likely to not vote. in fact, scum is more likely to remember to vote because they don't want to screw over their small scumteam. So you would have us waste our day 2 lynch on someone who has a less than average chance of flipping scum? On June 06 2016 19:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Dude if jealous is mafia he's not dying till lylo On June 07 2016 11:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: jealous. no offense but I think you might be the biggest newb of all time. Dudes. I already said this. kush was saying too correct things to be mafia. He was very right about certain things he would never say as Mafia. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote: Hello guys. I am finally here, logged in on a friend's computer. I could not play thus far and have not caught up to the thread. Based on my reads from last day and having seen the kills, I strongly suggest to lynch into one of (oh, the irony) low volume player. The last 48 hours have produced very little discussion and I feel like lynching afk people is a good thing. I will place my vote on thekushmountains for that purpose. Please note that my real life issues will probably continue for the next 24 hours, so do not expect great activity from my side. Sorry, again. Good night everyone. ##vote nnn_thekushmountians This guy is town too no matter what. | ||
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On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote: Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches. I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town. go bury yourself in a hole of shame Tictock. Worst part is you're probably town too. | ||
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His EoD behavior was crazy suspicious but that's only with 20/20 hindsight. It's not the first time Tictock's been completely wrong on something before since he's always testing things. His posts throughout the game have been pretty decent too. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote: Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx? Are we gonna go with this for D3? | ||
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On June 09 2016 09:10 Jealous wrote: I fail to see the connection between the two. If anyone, I'd vote Tictock right now. Was his behavior suspicious at EoD? Like when you were present and reading his posts at that time. | ||
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Note: This isn't me questioning you because I think you're Mafia, I just think this is a decent learning opportunity. | ||
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Now, the reason why Tictock would expose himself like with the shenannies at EoD would be if either emperor or Skynx were his Mafia teammates and he wanted to push off of them and onto town!kush. That's assuming if Tictock's Mafia of course. On the other hand, there's the possibility that Tictock was just misled town which as I said, is not uncommon. The best course of action wouldn't be to go after Tictock in this scenario, but to look at the people who caused it. Either as Mafia or not, the fact remains that he pushed off of emperor/Skynx. If emperor/Skynx were Mafia teammates with Tictock, then it's fine to go for them as when we find the Mafia in them, it'll lead us to Tictock next day. In the scenario where Tictock was misled town, emperor/Skynx still have a high chance of flipping Mafia on their own. So either way, it's best to go after emperor/Skynx and let Tictock sort himself out for a later day. It gives us more time to discern his alignment. As it is, the only thing you're doing is pulling the trigger right away as a gut reaction to a bad flip. But note that the same situation happened in D1 with you where you were part of a mislynch on QuickTwist. So I'd advise taking a step back for now. | ||
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On June 09 2016 10:23 emperorchampion wrote: Didn't fecal want to shenanie btdt who you read as town? I'm confused how you read fecal as town from this exchange? If the shenanie goes through and btdt flips town then you read fecal as mafia (very obviously). Just seems like wifom, and the most you can draw from it is null. But there was no need for him to do anything. He could have just avoided attention and let the lynch through. The fact that he said something about it and drew attention to himself makes him more likely to be town. Considering the odds of him being town to scum, I'd say it's more productive to say he's town for now and look for scum elsewhere. Going down tinfoil paths isn't really helpful. Of course. I already hard claimed Mafia. Godfather to be exact. I'm still confused why I'm not lynched by you guys yet. On June 09 2016 10:48 Jealous wrote: Tictock didn't switch votes, am I just misunderstanding the meaning of shennanie? Shenannie means switching votes en masse at EoD. Doesn't necessarily have to be the person itself, but Tictock was telling people to switch to kush. Maybe it's the wrong technical term but it doesn't really matter. He was just looking to change votes quickly at EoD. On June 09 2016 10:49 Jealous wrote: Also it never made me switch my vote, I was going to vote kush from the jump. I voted EC to draw reactions. I switched to kush in respect to my original thought processes, which were again wrong ;; hm...interesting. | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:35 Tictock wrote: I think Jealous is town now though. His attempt at shennanies threw me a little, but he was active and engaging me around EoD. Also the concern over blues claiming feels genuine. i checked jealous n1 and he was town. | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote: What were your other checks? And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx? n1 jealous town check there's mafia in emp/skynx and people were bringing good points about beentheredonethat so i checked him to make sure. also because his latest push on someone i forget was super lackluster. | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Gg  don't worry i carry game from here. | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:57 Jealous wrote: I have to ask, why did you rolecheck me first night? I'd like to hear your reasoning on the matter. because tinfoil. I'm using my checks for tinfoil. You were tinfoil from the result of the D1 lynch. I was tinfoiling beentheredonethat for a bit because of his shitty push on kush and his super mechanical posts. Learning note: super mechanical is a sign of scum forcing out reads. I was townreading him so I figured I'd just check him. Turns out I was right. Also because I knew there had to be a mafia in the middle of my townreads somewhere and beentheredonethat seemed most likely. | ||
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This is less reliable than straight up analysis imo but it's reading the tone in posts. For example, your posts are flavored with a lawyer-like tone. emperorchampion seems generally happy in his posts. I seem generally trolly. On the other hand, beentheredonethat's posts all read like they're being spewed out by an analysis machine which made me feel strange about him. Like it's great he's doing analysis but why are you so distant from the rest of town kind of vibe. Again, it's not certain which made me put him in my tinfoil category and use my N2 check on him. | ||
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On June 10 2016 09:07 Jealous wrote: Rather, who would you 1. lynch 2. investigate 3. expect to get NK There's no way I'm living this night. Lynch beentheredonethat tonight obv and Skynx would be good for next day. Might have to look into it to make a case to convince you guys but I'm pretty sure he's Maf. Also you're not in the clear because godfather is a role so keep that in mind. | ||
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On June 10 2016 09:12 emperorchampion wrote: I'm not sure if I'm ready to throw my caution to the wind atm. I honestly only trust super, and I have a feeling that jealous/moosy/scott could be maf. Tictock seems to be making a lot of sense right now. Moosy's claim seems pretty genuine, but I don't want to give too much benefit to the first claim. wait for super, i wanna play a game with him too when he's around just to get a few things clear between us. | ||
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On June 10 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote: Ok I said I was gunna hold off, but mulling things over I think I feel pretty good about Moosy's claim. As such I propose we have a very solid town circle of Moosy, Jealous, and myself (I think I can backup why I am town if I need to). I also feel pretty good about Emp being town still. So question to Moosy and Jealous. What do you guys think about Emp? Assuming for a moment that he is town, who do you think the last townie is? (between Skynx, Scott and Super) + Show Spoiler [Irony] + This reminded me... On June 07 2016 06:01 Tumblewood wrote: scumlist v2.0 everyone whose name starts with s Personally I could actually see a team of BtDt, Skynx and Super/Scott. These are actually my thoughts although I haven't thought about the 3rd member too much yet tbh. I think emperor has to be town judging by the way beentheredonethat was willing to throw him away so easily. And all of beentheredonethat's pushes have been on townies so that's what I'm going to go by. | ||
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On June 05 2016 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway.So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me. I guess it still worked this game tbh. | ||
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On June 10 2016 13:15 Tictock wrote: Honestly though, either way you've played a great game Mooosy. Thanks! tbh the only thing I really did of merit was the red cop check. Luckily I checked him or I would still be townreading him. | ||
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On June 10 2016 13:58 Superbia wrote: Also morning. About to start my breakfast ritual doooooood. thoughts? who do you think are mafia? what do you think of my claim? | ||
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On June 10 2016 21:03 Superbia wrote: If moosy is fake then there is a town vigi/cop that can CC him. this is not going to happen because mafia would have to poke their heads up and expose another teammate. btdt already mishandled the counterclaim. | ||
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On June 11 2016 02:11 Jealous wrote: I'm Vet. BTDT is scum. Moosy is cop. Anyone defending BTDT is probably scum also. Superbia by extension must be town. Discuss. looool nice | ||
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On June 11 2016 03:18 beentheredonethat wrote: Great. It's vet and doc then and you're not only lynching the doc, you also revealed the last blue to scum. Once I flip, the game is over if I counted correctly. GG MoosyDoosy, Superbia, and whoever is your third. nah. there's never a set up with two protective roles. | ||
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On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote: Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe. It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT. As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to: Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely. I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high. My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock. I kinda want to townread scott because of this post. On June 09 2016 18:08 beentheredonethat wrote: Okay, hello everyone. I am here, having some "spare" time at work, and will be here for the next few hours. Seeing MoosyDoosy's development in the last day, I want to refrain from my scum read. I think his participation and also the value of his posts greatly increased during the last cycle, and although I do not agree fully with everything that he says, I can see and understand where he's coming from with his opinions and reads. Contrary to day one, we actually had two wagons forming, one on emperorchampion and one on kushmountains. For some time, it was a rather close call (4 votes vs. 4 votes), and EC himself plus Jealous where responsible for the final hammer on thekushmountains. Jealous IMHO is still a townie although I'm feeling a bit paranoid about the blank pass I gave him thus far. Not enough to not townread him though. We have had only two wagons. So I say we lynch emperorchampion the next day and we'll learn a LOT: if he flips scum, we can be pretty sure that at least two, maybe all three scummers have voted the thekushmointains train. There was noone (besides kush himself) who voted outside of the wagons which makes me assume that this lynch wagon was actually a scum vs. town wagon. If there is a vigilante in, I strongly suggest to kill emperorchampion this night. Superbia already did this but then said it's a bad idea - I don't think it's a bad idea. Emperorchampion has the highest chance to flip scum out of everyone who's currently playing this game IMHO. Also, what about blkCoffee? Having someone in who's potentially lurking can be (and is!) detrimental for town. It's the second time he did not vote nor is he participating. Will we see a flip any time soon? A replacement? I kinda want to townread emperorchampion because of this post. Which makes the townies: Jealous Moosy emperorchampion scott31337 Rest to sort: Skynx Tictock Superbia Mafia: beentheredonethat | ||
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On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote: He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time. Alright nice. A team of Tictock/Skynx/beentheredonethat fits with the idea of a low-key scum team that didn't have much thread presence but was quiet enough that town was lost in the early chaos at the start of the game. | ||
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On June 11 2016 05:26 Jealous wrote: EBWOP it may be worthwhile to examine his previous reads to look for inconsistencies, but I have company over so I can't atm. Yeah I did that. His early reads are actually remarkably correct and it can be a ballsy scum play to call everything at the start of the game (like when I double bused my teammates when I was Mafia once) but I don't think he'd draw suspicion to beentheredonethat too early as you stated. | ||
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On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote: I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in. I hold Jealous' claim for genuine. More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy? Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target. Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip. Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense. That's straaange. Then I guess we really do have a doctor, cop, and veteran. :3 Well, we still have a day left anyway until we see your flip. | ||
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On June 11 2016 05:51 Jealous wrote: If this is the case, the only explanation is that the game was set up incorrectly, and then we've all been playing in a dream world that was actually a nightmare. This would be the absolute worst case scenario. Actually, there are normally preset role scenarios in most newbie games but it doesn't look like it was applied here which makes me a sad panda. I will willingly screenshot my role PM post game as Gaius as well. | ||
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On June 11 2016 06:34 scott31337 wrote: I'll be going out of town for the weekend, but I'll check in and such. I'm happy where my vote is. you have to be happy or your scum lol. Who do you think are the remaining scum members? | ||
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On June 12 2016 07:49 Superbia wrote: Pretty awesome! We did apocalypse world and I got to violate some people with my violation glove and mind control command them. by any chance are you scum and using mind control command on me? | ||
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On June 12 2016 09:05 Jealous wrote: Can't believe he didn't frame himself that night, major luck. Gj moosy. Can't believe he didn't frame you N1 tbh. | ||
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On June 12 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote: I'm assuming them having a GF on top of a framer would be too much. So a RB for them and you're the vet. You guys know the set up anyway, so you'd roleblock your kill targets to make sure you kill the veteran in any case. | ||
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On June 12 2016 10:00 Jealous wrote: I think of particular interest should be the pages between when Moosy claimed and when I claimed. That is where we are most likely to find some indicators of the other scum imo. I'll take a look before I die. :D Good working with you Jealous sir. | ||
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On June 12 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote: I think there's a slight chance you're mafia emperor but you've been too entertaining this game to lynch. :D So skynx+scott. yeah go do townie stuff super. Although i got mad at you for a bit, I'm happy to say you played really well and most of your reads were right. | ||
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On June 13 2016 05:00 emperorchampion wrote: I mean this is entirely speculation, but based on this post: It looks like possibly Moosy or scott could have been framed N2 if he was trying to set up some push on them. that's actually a really nice pickup. I would be the ideal target for a framer since I was so trolly and a cop would want to check me. Unfortunately, I happened to be the cop in this situation. | ||
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On June 17 2016 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Moosydoosy played an awesome game. I wonder why he almost never plays like this. And Jealous ofc. waaat is this. rayn giving me approval???? wow! I made the conscious decision to really tone down my antics by D2 because I really didn't want to piss of any newer players. I did want to showcase a crazy style that can get serious later on which is why I did go with my regular D1 craziness though.On June 17 2016 22:37 emperorchampion wrote: But I think that the kill on Tumble was the best call at the time I actually agree with this kill. Tumble was pretty clearly town. On June 18 2016 01:34 beentheredonethat wrote: Good game everyone. I had fun. Not going to play this kind of setup gamble again though, I'm here for the guessing, not for the math. I have to admit that I'm still salty, however I really want to put emphasis on Superbia's (and Jealous'!) effort that was put in. Shame we didn't get the clean victory but were reverse swept instead, but yeah that's life in ancient Rome. Yeah, the role setup really messed up Mafia. If you want to claim next time, make sure to discuss it with your coach just to make sure it's plausible. Also, you don't necessarily need to worry about roles and setups, etc. I still have no idea how role setups work and just go with things as they pop up. Not necessarily saying you should ignore role setup, but you don't need to absolutely know the finer details so don't stress about it. You made one mistake here and it won't happen again. Overall was a pretty fun game. Tictock of course gave some heart attacks in obs qt because of his paranoia at one point but we were pretty much going to pull through. I agree with the sentiment that scum overall played better than town in the early game but after the red check on beentheredonethat I think town picked things up, especially Jealous. @scott, I'm also happy you didn't roll over and die like you sometimes do but instead made yourself look town. props to disfo and superbia for figuring out the game super early although sup did it with feels. wp doods. | ||
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