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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:23 GMT
#1169
@Shapelog, can you update the player list at the start of the game to give deaths. TicTock's filter link is also broken.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:24 GMT
#1170
On June 08 2016 00:23 Skynx wrote:
Why suddenly change your post style Moosy?

I normally buckle down by N1/D2 after the D1 trolling euphoria dies out.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:25 GMT
#1171
On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:27 GMT
#1174
On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote:
So did you only read the first half of my filter, or do you have blinders on?

No, I'm fairly certain I read all 3 pages.

On June 08 2016 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:32 GMT
#1176
Congrats on reaching 4 pages on your filter now.


On June 08 2016 00:29 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 22:45 emperorchampion wrote:
That's pretty crazy actually, I had a read on jealous since the QT-pie incident started. But do you reeaaallly think he could be maf? If so that's some game winning stuff right there for sure.

Looking back on it, think how bat shit crazy it would be to start a 10 page argument then post a 10000 word essay on everything.


On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town.

kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me.


I'm presuming kush is Mafia based on the reasoning above? Looks like you also read Superbia and Skynx as mafia. Care to explain the Skynx read?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:36 GMT
#1177
On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote:
Also I don't think I ever hard read QT as maf, just hypothosised that it was odd QT and Tumble were defending each other. This was the information I was interested in. I dunno you are trying to twist my words I feel

I'm also still not quite convinced by this. Tumble was protecting QuickTwist, saying he's a newbie town. At the same time we saw kush protecting Jealous, calling him a newbie town. Why did you think Tumble and QuickTwist were a possible Mafia team and not kush/Jealous?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:41 GMT
#1179
What makes it more strange is that you seemed to like Tumble over kush but ended up thinking Tumble/QuickTwist were Mafia over the other possibility.


On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote:
I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through).

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?

That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read.

What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous.


This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up.


[image loading]

Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies.


you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes".

Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection.

the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection.


Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here:

On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote:
shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making
town: superbia, qt
town lean: emperor
null: moosy
scum lean: jealous
scum: [pending further posts]


To which is commented:
On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote:
if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels"


So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it:
1) He is protecting QT-pie
2) He's calling a bad play a bad play

From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder:

On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:29 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:02 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.


No.

what
but why
it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them


On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:24 QuickTwist wrote:
OK, so here's why I think Jealous is Town.

He's smart. He knows being overly confident in his reads helps town. He has been pushing scummy behavior namely, me. He is paying really close attention to the game and what people say and jumping on anything the looks like it could get traction. He's pushing his agenda and trying to be very correct.

For that reason I think he would make a really bad lynch today.

his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden.
townread suspended


On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote:
ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2
or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time.


In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it?

Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1).

Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment"


So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel.


This post makes me raaather suspicious. Town read on QuickTwist, town lean on Tumble, slight scum read on Jealous. Then Tumble protects QuickTwist, kush protects Jealous and you voted QuickTwist off of the reasoning that Tumble and QuickTwist were a possible Mafia team.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 15:46 GMT
#1181
On June 08 2016 00:43 emperorchampion wrote:
Tumble went from "6/10 would lynch" to saying, actually maybe I won't, I think that's what I found most suspicious

I see. Well questioning's over.

For now I'd like other players' thoughts about this and I encourage people to read emperorchampion's filter again. o/
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 19:15 GMT
#1245
On June 08 2016 03:23 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Some thoughts on scum teams:
-super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush
-TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon


Hmmmmmm

Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom



On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, I got some time to look over things -

1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses -
2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment.
5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter
6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean

Venturing Vets

1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean
2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling -
4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy.
5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now
6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF
7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind

I think I have too many "townies" -

I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read.


I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak.

- Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler +

I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order):

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2016 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?

On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?


That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why?

I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.

What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team.

Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter

Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations.

On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip?


- I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think.


aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now...


Where are these teams coming from? This seems like you drew names out of a hat then went to think about if they made sense as a team.

On June 08 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote:
And just to take things a step too far...

If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous

just thought it was slightly ironic so I wanted to point it out
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 19:23 GMT
#1251
On June 08 2016 04:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:23 Tictock wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Some thoughts on scum teams:
-super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush
-TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon


Hmmmmmm

Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom



On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, I got some time to look over things -

1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses -
2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment.
5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter
6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean

Venturing Vets

1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean
2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling -
4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy.
5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now
6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF
7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind

I think I have too many "townies" -

I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read.


I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak.

- Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler +

I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order):

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2016 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?

On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?


That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why?

I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.

What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team.

Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter

Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations.

On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip?


- I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think.


aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now...


Where are these teams coming from? This seems like you drew names out of a hat then went to think about if they made sense as a team.

On June 08 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote:
And just to take things a step too far...

If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous

just thought it was slightly ironic so I wanted to point it out


Moosy gimme a team of 3 :D

i don't have one
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 20:28 GMT
#1263
On June 08 2016 05:17 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:23 Tictock wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Some thoughts on scum teams:
-super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush
-TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote:
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On June 06 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon


Hmmmmmm

Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom



On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, I got some time to look over things -

1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses -
2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment.
5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter
6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean

Venturing Vets

1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean
2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling -
4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy.
5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now
6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF
7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind

I think I have too many "townies" -

I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read.


I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak.

- Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler +

I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order):

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2016 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?

On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?


That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why?

I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.

What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team.

Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter

Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations.

On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip?


- I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think.


aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now...


Where are these teams coming from? This seems like you drew names out of a hat then went to think about if they made sense as a team.

On June 08 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote:
And just to take things a step too far...

If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous

just thought it was slightly ironic so I wanted to point it out


So you don't wanna answer my question? I just explained where I got my 3 names from.

It's a shitty pre-flip associative based team.

he listed me, kush, jealous as a team and you said his post was shitty. Then you gave the exact same team. Nice!
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 20:29 GMT
#1264
On June 08 2016 05:17 Superbia wrote:
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On June 08 2016 05:14 Tictock wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:
What's your thought process behind that team?


Kush semi defended Moosy from BtDt and has pretty much ignored Jealous while having suspicions on Tumble for no reason. Similarly I get the sense that Jealous has ignored Kush and Moosy.

It's pretty shit but it kinda fit.

This also just from what I recall, I didn't bother to fact check or check filters.



Haha it's pretty sick because I had that team like a few hours ago in my head. Maybe Jealous is town but I dislike Moosy's defense of him and general lack of direction.

no, you're just bad and refusing to be good. on top of that, you're not reading the thread correctly which is why you're asking for things you should know the answers too and which is why you think i have no direction. but this is only my sixth time saying it so whatever.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 22:18 GMT
#1289
On June 08 2016 05:38 Tictock wrote:
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On June 08 2016 05:24 Superbia wrote:
Where is kush.

TT who are never mafia for you?


I'd kinda like to get back to you on this.

But gut feeling?
Super
FF
Scott

and probably...
Emp
Blkcoffee

FF is town.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 07 2016 22:19 GMT
#1290
not too sure about either scott or super. scott just got his pm and made 1 post after so there's waaay too little to really judge him. The posts before he got his PM were townie sure, but that's to be expected.

hm...not sure about emp either.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 19:41 GMT
#1358
when is deadline?
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 19:42 GMT
#1359
##Vote: emperorchampion
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 19:43 GMT
#1361
we're definitely not killing scott today. vote somewhere else emperor
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 19:43 GMT
#1362
On June 08 2016 10:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote beentheredonethat

change your vote? I actually townread this dude. He was the only one with logical reasoning and thoughts in his posts. Sure the people he went after were lackluster but he's a waste of a vote right now imo.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 19:48 GMT
#1367
Can we kill emperor today. No one has as of yet given me a compelling reason for having townread him and no one's touched on the topic at all.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 19:49 GMT
#1369
On June 09 2016 04:48 emperorchampion wrote:
How are these big targets? What about kush?

Who do you think is more scummy. Skynx or kush?
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