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On May 13 2016 01:53 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 01:49 justanothertownie wrote:On May 13 2016 01:36 Killing wrote:On May 13 2016 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:On May 13 2016 01:28 Killing wrote:On May 12 2016 23:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Mig is so old school.
Hopefully scum is Etellex or Alakaslam. The scary thing is if it's not one of them, it's completely possible that scum could also be Ricey, Fazers, or even Killing.
JAT would have killed me, so he's out.
Alakaslam could have killed Shape either for the lolz, or because he didn't understand something. And now he's continuing his push on me as kind of a scumclaim.
Etellex could have killed Shape due to misunderstanding. I could give you reasons I'm not scum but they are all based on the night kills and me not understanding the fuck is going on The last nightkill makes it pretty likely that the last mafia has no idea what's going on tbh. Oh I meant it like I don't understand what these fucking kills are because how was shape ever the cop. I thought kush is the cop and just doesn't believe his green on me since I can be gf. But also why did mafia kill marv when there was still a cop out there? Like isn't that just dumb. Killing him there wasn't gonna do anything that great. Might as well hunt for cop there. I'm just not sure if this is common forum meta cause the kills have been off the walls retarded from my pov. Scum sandroba probably told his team to bus him. He almost never turns up as mafia. So since the last mafia is gf there really isn't any incentive to hunt for the cop and shooting confirmed town marv is a pretty logical play. Maybe that's a plan if he actually says a single word and makes a single person think he's town. But he just sat there and afked. Nobody got town cred for him dying. I still think it was worse. Especially considering killing marv probably sealed his fate.
So why would that mean you should hunt for the cop? If you give up sandro anyways then it doesn't matter if he gets checked.
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On May 13 2016 02:02 Fazers wrote:
^ I wouldn't mind Etellex first, actually. He's been on my list to lynch since he first started posting.
##unvote
##vote Etellex
Please explain why slam or etellex are on your list to lynch.
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On May 13 2016 02:02 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I won't tolerate this attitude in my town. Play the fucking game or die. I am. Fuck off my case.
Showing up once per phase to cast your vote does not equal playing the game.
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Something weird is going on this game. Prior to today noone besides Mig really expressed any strong desire to kill slam over let's say Fazers/Etellex. And now everyone is just showing up to vote slam and leave and somehow he is #1 on everyones list. And noone ever bothers to give a reason for anything this game.
We should pray that we hit the mafia between the 4-5 completely inactive and horribly playing people very soon because if we don't then we will end up in LYLO with 0 information to process since everyone just piled on every single lynch without ever justifying why or in general giving reads with reasons. The 2 mafia lynches made this town go completely afk for some reason and this is really really dangerous.
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On May 13 2016 02:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Jat,here's whats behind my change of heart.
1) Alakaslam's suspicion of me makes no sense to the point of being a quasi-scumclaim.
2) Alakaslam is most likely to kill Shapelog over me for the lolz (or attempted WIFOM or something...)
3) Etellex probably would have surrendered. I don't think alakaslam is the type of person that surrenders.
1) True. But it also makes no sense to do this as mafia. That would not be very smart.
2) Maybe.
3) I don't know about that. Why can't Etellex be the type of person who doesn't surrender?
It's nice that you explain yourself but you are literally the only person in this game where I don't really care about the reasoning.
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On May 13 2016 02:51 Killing wrote:
@JAT
I'm pretty sure I mentioned lynching slam prior to today. He's just kind of the person I have not noticed in this game which is more mafia than not. The game is about lynching strong or weak players. That's why they call it a fear lynch. Of course, I don't fear you but I respect your abilities and understand that I probably cannot read you well enough to confidently determine your alignment. This means you can always be mafia. Of course that sucks for you but being a good player comes with the meta of being a good player. I didn't put you in the evaluate for the same reason. If you get to f3 with etellex or ricey, you will probably win regardless of your alignment so therefore you'd be a very poor choice for an evaluate option.
Either way, I think the game will end with slam because my spidey senses say so. I think the reads you are looking for are in my filter.
No, I can NOT always be mafia just because I am a good player. You can be a good player and still be obviously town which is the case for me this game. I just gave you some very good reasons to townread me (I am probably the easierst read in this game except for Kush). I have never been fearlynched - it might make sense in video mafia where you rarely have any actual evidence to base your reads on and where you have to hedge but it certainly makes no sense to fearlynch people for no reason in forum mafia.
What you are doing is lazy and extremely detrimental if you are town.
I have no idea where your confidence on slam comes from.
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Whatever, I am leaving because it is pubquiz night. I still think we just lynch the guy who contributes the least tomorrow because the way things are going right now we can only win by getting lucky. This town needs to shape the fuck up.
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On May 13 2016 15:07 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2016 17:48 justanothertownie wrote:On May 12 2016 13:27 Mig wrote:
Also this is set up speculation (dont freak out JAT) but if mafia got to pick their roles (which is common in a lot of games) slam makes perfect sense to give godfather to. He is hard to read with his trolly style and gets checked a lot.
It could be that the mafia roles were randomized so obviously this isnt definitive proof but if they did get to pick I could definitely see a slam gf. An etellex/fazers gf not so much. I am 99.99999 % sure that damdred would neither pick the mafia team without randomizing nor give mafia the opportunity to choose their roles. It is NOT common. Maybe it was when you used to play more but in the 3 years I have been active on this site I remember exactly one game were that was the case. And damdred joined the community way later. Last time I played a year ago and was mafia they let us pick our roles. Seems fine by me. But again it was a minor thing that doesnt prove anything (as I sais). Obv you still feel the need to argue about it. Really makes you annoying to play with sometimes.
You (at least partly) base your read on incorrect presumptions which I point out... and that makes me annoying to play with?
Ok Mig.
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On May 13 2016 15:32 Alakaslam wrote: all for calling me dumb just because I see it as possible kush is not cop The mockery is enough, just stop and lynch me out peaceably
You have to see that the possibility for Kush to me mafia is really really slim. Every sane cop would counterclaim him.
Lynching you doesn't gain us anything if you are town. It's not necessary. I thought you would channel your inner saitama this game?! Your martyring is not warranted.
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On May 13 2016 15:15 Mig wrote:
Anyway the slam anger seems fake. There is 0% chance kush is mafia. Even arguing about him not being cop when it is so obvious is retarded. Slam just trolling as he goes out imo.
I am not convinced. I have seen slam irrationaly rage (even directed at me) like that a couple of times as town in the recent past and martyring is something he predominantly does when he is town too.
Don't get me wrong he could do this as mafia but the reasons brought up against him today are just not scum indicative for him. I would rather kill one of the people who just barely do enough to not get modkilled today.
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On May 13 2016 05:12 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 04:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
ALAKASLAM ADDRESS HOW THERE'S NO CC Cop is one of AFK people or paranoid or thinking way the hell too much about town of Salem. I have no end of disdain for this town. Lynch me out.
Noone has been afk all this time. I don't get why you say the guy you thought was obvious mafia earlier somehow has to be the cop over Kush now.
Please get it together if you are town. Kush is 99 % the cop and not mafia. And we don't need to lynch you if you are town either. We could just - you know - lynch the mafia instead.
Nvm me if you are mafia and just trolling.
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Wow, 0 posts since I left several hours ago. Good talk guys.
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I went through slams filter in the train earlier.
The only good reason I see to think he is mafia is this post:
On May 07 2016 02:38 Alakaslam wrote:
I am a fan of staying the course. Palmar seems too townie right now.
Call him svengali master but he has pretty much convinced me that others could have shot Marv.
Because it is so utterly terrible. In his other posts he followed a "why a strong player like palmar over these guys?" train of thought which is at least somewhat believable but I really can't even begin to understand how this post came to be.
The rest of his posting prior to the nonsensical and nai cop thing was very much ok in my opinion. And I don't really see slam pulling this emo shit as the last mafia. I think we have a way higher chance of hitting mafia if we kill fazers or possibly etellex. The problem is that slams seems to be willing to force our hand to lynch him (which is something he tends to do as town btw.).
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On May 14 2016 04:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
imo there's too much talking. it's just a waste of time.
Then why are you even playing this game? Go play town of salem instead.
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On May 14 2016 05:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:On May 14 2016 04:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
imo there's too much talking. it's just a waste of time. Then why are you even playing this game? Go play town of salem instead. Slam is probably scum and he's getting lynched anyway. I will spend time if he flips town, but until then it seems like a waste of time because the chance of that happening is so small.
Did you ever see slam do this shit as mafia? I don't think I did.
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Ok, since noone seems to be willing to play this game at all it seems we can only pray that slam is mafia. Don't act all suprised and shocked if he flips town.
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Disgusting martyring by slam.
Atrocious townplay in general today.
Good job.
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On May 14 2016 23:10 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 10:50 RiceyKins wrote:
I guess I forgot to mention but I also don't think Killing is the last one. He's made some good points, I think he's actually tried to look into people and why they are behaving the way they are. Basically I think he's been scum hunting while he's around.
Aw I think you're probably not a murder too!
So who is "a murder"?
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On May 15 2016 12:57 RiceyKins wrote:
well nothing like giving up with more than a full day to go to change the minds of the people.
JAT what do you think the chances are of Mig being the last mafia and just bussing the hell out of Palmar and Sandroba?
The chance does exist.
The time Mig was the most active was the time we lynched mafia. He only appeared at the end of day1 and since early during the last dayphase he has left us again. He doesn't really seem all that interested in figuring out the last one. And yes, he could have bussed. He was the first one on sandroba but it doesn't really mean anything since it was 100 % obvious that sandroba would be the lynch that day. Noone should get any credit for that lynch.
And in case of the Palmar lynch he only joined the wagon quite late in the day. Marv, kush and me were already on it for ages and it seems only logical that mafia saw there was no chance of saving Palmar with us pushing him. This lynch is actually meaningful since mafia would have certainly prefered not losing Palmar who was also their rb if they could avoid it somehow. Even if that means bussing sandroba for example. But once 3 influential/widely townread townies are pushing for Palmar and refuse to waver there isn't anything mafia can really do anymore.
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