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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:16 GMT
#1701
god rels filter is kinda good maybe ill leave him for tormorow. But that vote...

Votes do not lie words do
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 21 2016 01:16 GMT
#1702
Like, if you want to ignore Onegu for today, fine. Maybe (hopefully) he doesn't come back and gets modkilled. But don't assume he is 100 % town for raging at me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:18 GMT
#1703
On April 20 2016 00:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:36 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Like, it is not hard. Yes, I think he is mafia and I made that clear quite often already but I have been wrong before and he IS an uncced medic right now so if you do not acknowledge the possibility that he is town or refuse to give him opportunity to show it if that is the case then you have no idea how to play this game.

Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.

What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?
In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative.
Your angle hrte

It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense.
I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12

Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.

There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.

Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.

Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.

If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.

No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.

Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.

I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.

There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.

Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.

You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying.
This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.

You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched.


god this is too good I cant vote this man today
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 21 2016 01:20 GMT
#1704
On April 21 2016 10:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 00:47 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:36 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 18:08 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Ofc I recognize the possibility that Superbia is doc and played the worst game of his life. If he is though, he will step up by himself. He's likely scum, and if he is he doesn't need your encouragement that if he tryhards he will maybe survive. I don't really believe "some clowns needed explanation to understand it" too, since the votecount is so unanimous. Who did you mean by that ? The persons you responded to in the quotes of yours in my post ? Cause apart from OWS you responded to rsoultin (who wants to lynch him) and Superbia himself (doesn't do anything regardless of his alignment.

What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?
In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative.
Your angle hrte

It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense.
I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
[quote]
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.

There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.

Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.

Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.

If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.

No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.

Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.

I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.

There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.

Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.

You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying.
This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.

You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched.


god this is too good I cant vote this man today

There are good things in rels filter. Yet you managed to quote the part that is really shit. Congrats.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:20 GMT
#1705
Jat does not seem to have any opinion to what i said he just wants to fight useless points
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:21 GMT
#1706
On April 21 2016 10:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 10:18 sicklucker wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:47 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:36 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:15 Rels wrote:
On April 19 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
What is the point? If you don't understand what I said or why reread it and you will. If you were town super you probably wouldn't be very inclined to do stuff if everyone just said lynch him anyways. And why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?
In essence - what I said made sense and was warranted and even if it wasn't it would still not be scum indicative.
Your angle hrte

It's not really true - Superbia is a very good scum, so you giving him an out could means he can survive if you are his partner and help him. So "why the hell would I say that as is scumbuddy?" has an easy answer and is not a defense.
I know you are a very good scum. I won't let you slip by if you are scum. You said you didn't want today to be wasted:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.

Yet you didn't do a whole lot. I expect more from you.

Because people didn't do anything when I was around. And I still did more than 90 % of players in this game including you.

If I want to save super as my scumbuddy I yell at him in the qt to do stuff and certainly not in the thread while he is clearly getting lynched. That's the dumbest thing I think I ever heard from you.

No. If you are town you acted exactly how a scumbuddy with a lot of towncred would act in order to make the doc thinks he needs to cc if superbia starts putting effort in the thread.

Nope. It's like you have 0 idea how this game works. IF super is mafia AND puts in the needed effort and I see that we can maybe save with the obtained town sentiment him THEN I maybe make a post like that. NOT when everything points towards him getting lynched anyways and I am just making myself look like a fool.

I am acting exactly like a townie who does not KNOW superbia is mafia and makes sure he knows he can still salvage this if he really tries to. Which is something every townie should do because mislynching an uncced medic in an open setup is mighty retarded.

There is 0 scum motivation and a lot of town motivation for what I have done.

Meh. Will have to reread this later with a clear head because the more you arguee this is proving you are town when it's clearly NAI at best and probably scum indicative actually, the more I want to lynch you.

You will not lynch me bro but don't let me stop you from trying.
This whole retarded argumentation makes it way more likely for YOU to be mafia. Logical player my ass. You didn't refute anything I brought up.

You are the one not responding directly to what I'm saying. Your read on Superbia is overexplained and you repeated why you are scumreading him and why doc should not claim. You also left him outs to tryhard, he can't be saved if doc cc but he can make the doc cc. Now you're saying all of this actually makes you town. Bullshit. This is not a strong scum indicator, I'm not calling you slam dunk scum, yet you're reacting and OMGUSing like you are about to get lynched.


god this is too good I cant vote this man today

There are good things in rels filter. Yet you managed to quote the part that is really shit. Congrats.


I JUST SAID THAT YOU FUCK
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:24 GMT
#1707
On April 21 2016 10:16 sicklucker wrote:
god rels filter is kinda good maybe ill leave him for tormorow. But that vote...

Votes do not lie words do

gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 01:24 GMT
#1708
On April 21 2016 10:15 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean he knowingly cheated regardless of his alignment by doing that. It makes no difference what alignment he is.


It makes a huge difference.

If he's town in his mind he is righteous.

If he's scum he's just slime.

It's easy to just say it makes no difference but it really does as it's the difference between being right and wrong outside the game. (He's moved things off the board)

And that's what onegu has done, he's made this about his morality and his sense of being wronged instead of being about the game itself.

Regardless of wether he was right to do that(he really wasn't)That does means a lot to me jat, I hope you don't think too less of me for that / :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:24 GMT
#1709
also unvoted him...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 21 2016 01:26 GMT
#1710
On April 21 2016 10:24 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 10:15 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean he knowingly cheated regardless of his alignment by doing that. It makes no difference what alignment he is.


It makes a huge difference.

If he's town in his mind he is righteous.

If he's scum he's just slime.

It's easy to just say it makes no difference but it really does as it's the difference between being right and wrong outside the game. (He's moved things off the board)

And that's what onegu has done, he's made this about his morality and his sense of being wronged instead of being about the game itself.

Regardless of wether he was right to do that(he really wasn't)That does means a lot to me jat, I hope you don't think too less of me for that / :

I don't think less of you - why would I?

But Onegu can feel righteous about this as town or mafia. It is just his opinion and his alignment doesn't change anything about that.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 01:28 GMT
#1711
Just ignore all emotions that can be real or fake. thats not why I started playing this game. Like its not even video mafia where you can commend someone for faking it. Its words and they mean nothing
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 01:34 GMT
#1712
On April 21 2016 10:28 sicklucker wrote:
Just ignore all emotions that can be real or fake. thats not why I started playing this game. Like its not even video mafia where you can commend someone for faking it. Its words and they mean nothing


If there's anything I consider reliable, it's my dick move analysis. Fun fact, I have never been wrong with it. Not once, my theory based reads are the ones that get me in trouble XD

If that changes this game I'll accept that, but it is hands down my most reliable method of reading people. ( though I'm happy it doesn't come into play too often) Even if extreme emotions on a page should not be considered reliable, my experiences have all indicated the opposite.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 01:47 GMT
#1713
I just went over 3 games were onegu was lynched, he never came close to anything like this outburst.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 01:49 GMT
#1714
Also I've seen this specific "x player is ruining mafia" tirade before, almost never comes from scum. Especially not the ones that are actually really virulent like this.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 02:15 GMT
#1715
On April 21 2016 10:34 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 10:28 sicklucker wrote:
Just ignore all emotions that can be real or fake. thats not why I started playing this game. Like its not even video mafia where you can commend someone for faking it. Its words and they mean nothing


If there's anything I consider reliable, it's my dick move analysis. Fun fact, I have never been wrong with it. Not once, my theory based reads are the ones that get me in trouble XD

If that changes this game I'll accept that, but it is hands down my most reliable method of reading people. ( though I'm happy it doesn't come into play too often) Even if extreme emotions on a page should not be considered reliable, my experiences have all indicated the opposite.


i never said its not somewhat reliable. but its not very fun to use and sets a bad meta where you gotta fake it. and people have been
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 02:20 GMT
#1716
I don't really understand why Onegu is all that angry here?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 02:23 GMT
#1717
I'm also not sure I care about it all that much.
Oh wells - time to filter dive.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 02:43 GMT
#1718
I can't believe how empty shape's filter is.
I'm looking at it and thinking "dude, what has this guy been doing this whole time?"
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 03:09 GMT
#1719
A side note while I'm still working on this: Rels is potentially the third scum.

The only reason I don't really want to jump on Onegu is because so many of our current suspects have had him as possible scum. I looked at Jat's lynch list and realized that I couldn't remember what Rels had done all game.

I'll be looking into him as well.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 03:17 GMT
#1720
Upon closer inspection Rels seems pretty unlikely.
He picked out a bunch of problematic Superbia posts at times I think scum would be more likely to sweep what he saw under the rug.

Plus I liked a ton of his earlier stuff, so.
Retired.
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