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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 16:59 GMT
#1141
All his posts are super austerity mode and lack fantasy and fun. My entrance was also super austerity and as a consequence I ended up paying attention to little things too much probably. Some of these little things might not have been bad but with gumshoe I needed the big picture, which I admittedly didn't bother to get while we had much time.


I forgot to add something here, since I wanted to finish my line of thought: I ended up maybe putting too much fantasy into stuff when going into the game super serious, which is why I noticed the lack thereof in tubesock. Could be cause we are different, could be cause putting too much weight into stuff is a townie trait, which is why I put weight into this.

With this you might see the point of mentioning it. While I tend to read a lot into things tube just summarizes and goes for a lot of different angles without really finding one that's particularly interesting for him.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 25 2016 17:00 GMT
#1142
On March 26 2016 01:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 17:54 sandroba wrote:
@slam I just filtered you, and you say you could only shoot day1. Why did you shoot so early into day 1, before even all players had posted?
Also one thing I don't understand regarding the circumstance. Did you send your shot through pm and went to bed? I had the impression you said you were going to reconsider it and sleep on it before you shot. What happened/made you change your mind?

I had submitted my shot.

Palmar was not online at the time (it was like 1AM in Iceland) and I had neglected to ask him if the shot was retractable. I thought about it and then got tired and went to sleep.

Woke up to the shot wondering why I hadn't just submitted a different target and then remembering I had still thought there was a high likelihood of gumshoe being scum when I had sent in the shot.


so, to clarify, the time you set on it was when you thought palmar would be up and not a time limit put on the shot itself? like, was the shot meant to be delayed or only delayed because the hosts were asleep?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 17:01 GMT
#1143
We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 25 2016 17:02 GMT
#1144
On March 26 2016 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
All his posts are super austerity mode and lack fantasy and fun. My entrance was also super austerity and as a consequence I ended up paying attention to little things too much probably. Some of these little things might not have been bad but with gumshoe I needed the big picture, which I admittedly didn't bother to get while we had much time.


I forgot to add something here, since I wanted to finish my line of thought: I ended up maybe putting too much fantasy into stuff when going into the game super serious, which is why I noticed the lack thereof in tubesock. Could be cause we are different, could be cause putting too much weight into stuff is a townie trait, which is why I put weight into this.

With this you might see the point of mentioning it. While I tend to read a lot into things tube just summarizes and goes for a lot of different angles without really finding one that's particularly interesting for him.


idk when i filter dived him i actually was pretty okayish with what i saw. he wasn't making a lot of scumreads or anything but seemed to be probing into things fine...the weirdest part was just dropping a vote on sandy when he clearly was following the thread
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 25 2016 17:04 GMT
#1145
On March 26 2016 02:01 Vivax wrote:
We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up.


i don't object but i don't see the point if you have scumreads?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:09 GMT
#1146
Confirmed Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Town
+ Show Spoiler +
Vivax
Rels
justanothertownie
LightningStrike
rsoultin (no mafia is going to spend 5 pages pushing 2 normally loud people while giving more than enough reads on the side. She helped multiple people get more insight on players (look at the tumble/Tube thing, which mafia wont do for lynchbait players))

Maybe town
+ Show Spoiler +
ObiWanShinobi
Shapelog

Not going to lynch Town
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
Alakaslam
Damdred

Null
+ Show Spoiler +
Stutters695 (shoot him)
Tubesock (might be town suckered in by Tumble)

Won't lynch right now Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
Superbia (holy fuck the filter is real, and bad)
Tictock
Tumblewood (Latest townreads were ok but not impossible for mafia to make)
Kurumi

Maybe Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
sicklucker

Likely Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
ritoky
sandroba (this guy is mafia, or not connected to the game yet, I think he is mafia. Basically says rsoultin is mafia because ritoky is 100% lock town, ridiculous.)

Confirmed Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:09 GMT
#1147
On March 26 2016 02:01 Vivax wrote:
We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up.

I would like to shoot people like TT.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:11 GMT
#1148
##unvote
##vote sandroba
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 17:12 GMT
#1149
On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.


On March 25 2016 06:38 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
Kurumi responded a bit ago
On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.


Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.

Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker:
What was good in my post you quoted?
What are your scumreads and why?
I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread.

I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it...

For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...


I didn't skim your posts. I did not bring up your lack or reads so why the defensiveness? What I think your reads were is basically Superbia and Lightninstrike are town and ritoky and Gum were mafia. ALthough you didn't talk much about ritoky. Not nearly as much as Gum anyway. What do you currently think of Ritoky?


On March 25 2016 06:54 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:38 Tubesock wrote:
Kurumi responded a bit ago
On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.


Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.

Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker:
What was good in my post you quoted?
What are your scumreads and why?
I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread.

I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it...

For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...


I didn't skim your posts. I did not bring up your lack or reads so why the defensiveness? What I think your reads were is basically Superbia and Lightninstrike are town and ritoky and Gum were mafia. ALthough you didn't talk much about ritoky. Not nearly as much as Gum anyway. What do you currently think of Ritoky?


You accused me of not being hard enough on ritoky - that I am hard on fishing, but not on him, although he is fishing. Look at my posts! I said that role talk is absolutely terrible, that people should stop and that I am vary of ritoky. He was my 2nd scum read at the time - but what I saw in gumshoe was more sure for me - I saw scum agenda together with defending scum agenda, can't get more scummy than that this early.

I have already voiced my opinion on ritoky, if you really read my posts you should know that he had a paragraph in my last big post.


Yep like this confirms my feelings that tube is just posting to post, but it doesn't exclude kurumi from being mafia as well. Kurumi talked "extensively" about ritokys plays, tube has him as scumread yes but shape and tumble seem to be next in line, and the most interesting thing he thinks of is kurumis opinion on ritoky, like...again...? Question is too random, I don't really see the line of thought that could lead to it, and then to a sandroba vote.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:13 GMT
#1150
My current guesses:
ritoky/sandroba/sicklucker/tumbleweed
Do we know how many mafia there are?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:14 GMT
#1151
Looking at the quotes from tubesock. I must say there are a lot of questionable people saying ritoky is town. Saw it a lot while filterdiving.
I had a good night of sleep.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 25 2016 17:15 GMT
#1152
Btw, if Tube flips mafia I am 100% taking the credit for that lynch.
Retired.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:17 GMT
#1153
Hmm. Maybe I will flip Tubesock and Tumble next time.

I felt bad when reading this, I thought it was Tube being town and copying bad reads. But maybe he is just mafia.
On March 26 2016 00:11 Tubesock wrote:
Concerning Ritoky. I may have fell for the ole caps lock trick. I felt he was sincere, but I do know he's a good liar and not at all above doing something like this as mafia. Hmm.

I agree with too much of Tumble's stuff (aside from Rels/Kurumi reads) so I can't vote him.

I don't neccessarily think Rels is mafia just that he's null to me. Same with SL and LS and to some extent Rso. Mostly I don't bother trying to read them till later in the game (SL, LS, Rso).


Anyway, Going to work, voting Kurumi.

I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 17:19 GMT
#1154
Newsflash: Koshi and Obi town
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 17:21 GMT
#1155
Maybe I'm just being naive, I'll actually think it through before randomly deciding it cause of a few posts. Obi remains a town lean, Koshi will stay under review.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 25 2016 17:25 GMT
#1156
NVM to Tumble about the Vivax thing. I found where you townread him.
Still want to know if u find SL scummy
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 25 2016 17:26 GMT
#1157
Anyone that thinks tube is town needs to say why.
I think he's a very likely mafia flip and more people should be voting him.
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 17:28 GMT
#1158
On March 25 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
VayneAuthority
Kurumi
Stutters695
sandroba
Rels
Tictock
Tumblewood
Tubesock

Right now I think most of the scum is in this list so far, or at least people I would think about lynching today. Kurumi, VA and Rels are sort of fringe being off the list just because I think they seem like they could be useful if they are town down the road so far. Rels is pretty idk difficult right now he doesn't have a few of his town things he generally does going for him.

The others are an assortment of policy/low volume/failure to postings/no real smart things so far.


This list is really good for D1. But here's where I disagree.

VayneAuthority
Kurumi
Stutters695
sandroba
Rels
Tictock
Tumblewood
Tubesock

On March 25 2016 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Trying to catch up from my phone, but you're making a new post for every two I read.
I think one of Kurumi and LS is scum, because they were the gumshoe wagon starters (I don't feel comfortable scumreading either of the other two) and he was the target for a mislynch.
Also, all of you scumreading Slam for that shot are idiots. He was wrong, but he's obvious town because of it.


I think the bolded makes him town. If slam is town he takes away the opportunity to mislynch, if slam is scum he just posted something that would make him look questionable if slam flipped scum, and he posts it when people are scumreading him for the shot, so in his mind the probability of his would-be scumbuddy to be lynched would be high and he wouldn't say that.

Rels I need to look at still and stutters is a coinflip like TT. Lynching coinflips on D1 is not bad but usually causes disappointment if they're town. I think we should do shenannies today.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 25 2016 17:31 GMT
#1159
oh shit. I won't be around for deadline. I got soccer.
Interesting.
Not around for deadline. low filter.

Might have fun in later days.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22277 Posts
March 25 2016 17:38 GMT
#1160
Voting tubesock.

1 Maybe sandro is right on rso and since rso wants to lynch kurumi I lynch tubesock.
2 Would suck to be lynched D1 after not playing for so long and then posting so much for kur
3 Tubesock has to explain what ritoky had to do with anything in his read on kurumi and why he's more interested into his read on him instead of say, tumble or shape who he claimed where blending.
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