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hellll no. im starting to think its possible tho since your so against me
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On March 26 2016 01:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:06 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 01:03 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 01:00 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:55 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 00:51 sicklucker wrote:On March 25 2016 23:36 rsoultin wrote:On March 25 2016 23:34 Damdred wrote:On March 25 2016 23:31 rsoultin wrote:On March 25 2016 23:13 Damdred wrote:
Besides rit who RS ? i'd bother to answer this if i hadn't already ^^ You've ignored me all game which is troublesome to say the least especially since you light scum read me earlier << i still think you're probably 3p (was thinking maybe even scum earlier, but saw something that makes me think otherwise) and so i'm not terribly interested in you tbh lol >< i could say the same thing about you avoiding me how long are you planning on hiding your reads? I think the only people who would truly think someone is 3p is a mafia in an open setup. A town would just think they are mafia and asume there is no 3rd party. but a mafia would see dandred playing weird look at their qt and see hes not in said qt. Knowing dandreds not mafia that mafia would then know that said dandred is third party. uh huh. except i'm not getting strong scum vibes from him, just "off" vibes who is scum other than me sl? i dont know maybe the dude im voting named dandred meh you never want to lynch who i want to lynch :/ damdy slipped up on whining about not being listened to...it was subtle, but it was there. i doubt he's scum though he did say he'd try to adjust his meta. of course, what i saw in cell was awful lol >< so i'm not really sure he's capable of it. same with ls ya but when were both town which I think only ever happened in one game I was the one who was right =] (cough cough holyflare) this is true >> that was also over a year ago although maybe it's not true idk i think we've both been town in other games haven't we? pretty sure
not together I have a sick memory. Weve played probably 3-4 games since and one of us was always mafia
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On March 26 2016 01:09 sicklucker wrote:
hellll no. im starting to think its possible tho since your so against me
lol i think you wanted to kill me in pyp with your hurricane and i coulda sworn you were in himalayas thought that may have been onegu
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maybe in pyp but you died so early i forgot =[ useless
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>> i won the game bitch
lol
well, kinda. red-checked scum anyway, and never died
>> you coppy bastard of course you've played games where we're both town lol >< you actually thought you were a likely enough n1 kill to SCREAM to the thread that i was mason claiming cause surely you'd be nk'd long before i was
-beats with a wet noodle- >< i can't believe that slipped my mind. lexy and i were laughing about it
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your a filthy liar I dont remember this at all! why are you all voting boring people
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Well I was not vt and I just cared mostly about not dying so THERE
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On March 26 2016 01:21 sicklucker wrote:
your a filthy liar I dont remember this at all! why are you all voting boring people
rit and kuru aren't boring >> they're scum
you should vote kuru with me if you're too daft to vote rit
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On March 26 2016 00:59 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:
List of Town that I got from my filter:
Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him.
Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game.
JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart.
Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him.
Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows.
Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone.
Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent?
Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role.
List of Null:
Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post.
sicklucker: Rip ability to read him.
ahhh..? did you just call me town? im shocked
Learn to read I said null not town for you -_-
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On March 26 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:59 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:
List of Town that I got from my filter:
Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him.
Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game.
JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart.
Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him.
Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows.
Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone.
Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent?
Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role.
List of Null:
Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post.
sicklucker: Rip ability to read him.
ahhh..? did you just call me town? im shocked Learn to read I said null not town for you -_-
i think you're being duped by all caps ^^ you really shouldn't be given your play in cell >>
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On March 26 2016 01:06 rsoultin wrote:
okay, i've given him enough time. rit's more scum, but y'all are awful and i'm almost as sure on kuru lol ><
really fake-seeming rage + misrepresentation + no scumreads other than OMGUS...just poofing
##vote kurumi
This might just be the reason for me not to just sheep someone today and lynch you.
I still will have to someday, to satisfy the need to punish your brother for the secret hitler game.
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On March 26 2016 01:42 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:06 rsoultin wrote:
okay, i've given him enough time. rit's more scum, but y'all are awful and i'm almost as sure on kuru lol ><
really fake-seeming rage + misrepresentation + no scumreads other than OMGUS...just poofing
##vote kurumi This might just be the reason for me not to just sheep someone today and lynch you. I still will have to someday, to satisfy the need to punish your brother for the secret hitler game.
this i will accept...though tbf given how everyone kept calling me confirmed scum for scumreading my brother and refusing to vote him in, then shooting me in the face, i think we both suffered equally >>
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On March 26 2016 01:42 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:06 rsoultin wrote:
okay, i've given him enough time. rit's more scum, but y'all are awful and i'm almost as sure on kuru lol ><
really fake-seeming rage + misrepresentation + no scumreads other than OMGUS...just poofing
##vote kurumi This might just be the reason for me not to just sheep someone today and lynch you. I still will have to someday, to satisfy the need to punish your brother for the secret hitler game.
Wait JarJar played secret hitler with you guys? Damn I missed out 
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On March 26 2016 01:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:On March 26 2016 00:59 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:
List of Town that I got from my filter:
Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him.
Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game.
JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart.
Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him.
Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows.
Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone.
Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent?
Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role.
List of Null:
Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post.
sicklucker: Rip ability to read him.
ahhh..? did you just call me town? im shocked Learn to read I said null not town for you -_- i think you're being duped by all caps ^^ you really shouldn't be given your play in cell >>
Rolf it was before the all caps and I didn't even the all caps till after I posted -_-
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On March 26 2016 01:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:42 Vivax wrote:On March 26 2016 01:06 rsoultin wrote:
okay, i've given him enough time. rit's more scum, but y'all are awful and i'm almost as sure on kuru lol ><
really fake-seeming rage + misrepresentation + no scumreads other than OMGUS...just poofing
##vote kurumi This might just be the reason for me not to just sheep someone today and lynch you. I still will have to someday, to satisfy the need to punish your brother for the secret hitler game. this i will accept...though tbf given how everyone kept calling me confirmed scum for scumreading my brother and refusing to vote him in, then shooting me in the face, i think we both suffered equally >>
Don't just let him lynch you
Vivax why you being bad this game regarding me and Tina?
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rsoultin look at this:
On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is). The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias? On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting. Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in. On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching
Makes Kurumi town not?
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On March 25 2016 07:04 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 06:57 ritoky wrote:On March 25 2016 06:38 Rels wrote:
ritoky could you lay out exactly what town benefits you were going for with your plan ? i spelled it out multiple times, but sure. i am vt, i know nothing about the setup since it is closed. i have been in closed setups that are basically the same as a normal game and closed setups with 20 players, 19 of which are roles or mafia. i wanted to gauge the nature of how many PRs were in the game while locating all the VTs and narrowing down my potential mafia greatly. so i angle shot using the name of the role, assuming all town roles are named the same thing and that mafia either didn't get fake role pms or were too careless to reference them and understand what i was doing before it was already too late. the goal was to utilize the picture of the expedition, have people understand it, realize expedition was also in their role pm, and start forming a coalition of townies who understood we were all town based on the understanding of the expedition. from there you have a large block of people who identify eachother as near lock town and there is a vast amount of control over the day phase because of it as well as a smaller pool of people for potentially mafia. it forces mafia into an awkward spot where they have to choose to not PR hunt and leave PRs alive thus costing them a great deal or leave this large block of semi-confirmed townies alive and concede a ton of day phase control. the mafia lose something large either way. i think it is a pretty well devised plan, apparently i am alone. But here is the problem: You as an experienced players should not assume that mafia has no fakeclaims or knowledge about roles. Especially when 2 of the most experienced people of the community are hosting. It is really hard to believe. That is one of my problem with the plan. The other problem is that I felt reading your posts that you were trying more to (1) confirm yourself as town and (2) make sure it's obvious it's a plan rather than trying to quietly find VTs to confirm them when you reveal the plan. Gonna reread to see if that holds up or not.
Rels is 100% town
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Tubesock can be mafia, but if he is he is in one camp and kurumi and koshi are in the other. And I don't know which one it is yet. Either way D1 lynches are crappy most of the time, D1 reads are crappy in general and most crappy in big games. I won't expect much else from this game.
Why can he be mafia? He has this sort of super serious tone. All his posts are super austerity mode and lack fantasy and fun. My entrance was also super austerity and as a consequence I ended up paying attention to little things too much probably. Some of these little things might not have been bad but with gumshoe I needed the big picture, which I admittedly didn't bother to get while we had much time.
Not a reason for him to be mafia but definitely a reason for him not to be townread.
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On March 26 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:rsoultin look at this: Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is). The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias? On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting. Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in. On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching Makes Kurumi town not?
not really sure why it would?
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On March 25 2016 17:54 sandroba wrote:
@slam I just filtered you, and you say you could only shoot day1. Why did you shoot so early into day 1, before even all players had posted?
Also one thing I don't understand regarding the circumstance. Did you send your shot through pm and went to bed? I had the impression you said you were going to reconsider it and sleep on it before you shot. What happened/made you change your mind?
I had submitted my shot.
Palmar was not online at the time (it was like 1AM in Iceland) and I had neglected to ask him if the shot was retractable. I thought about it and then got tired and went to sleep.
Woke up to the shot wondering why I hadn't just submitted a different target and then remembering I had still thought there was a high likelihood of gumshoe being scum when I had sent in the shot.
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