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It should become clear why Ritoky is town (at least in my mind) at this point.
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On March 24 2016 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Think about it this way super:
Am I scum trying to act like Blazinghand with his excuses or am I town making a legitimate excuse?
That's really NAI imo dude. Just play the game and I'll see what you are. I'm not going to be able to make my mind up at this point.
Actually this gives you some slight town-points because I'm picturing you saying this in voice-mafia and I think it aligns more with your town game..? Not enough to make my mind up in any way but you know. GJ. Sort of.
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What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is).
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On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read
Nice. I like it.
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On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all.
Why?
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Let me ask it this way JAT- who do you think is mafia?
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On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far.
Which ones, specifically?
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Okay, maybe I need to await slam's explanation and evaluate from there. I'm still with ritoky as being town.
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... Why are you defending me LS? x:
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On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.
Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing.
I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own.
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On March 24 2016 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote:
Okay, maybe I need to await slam's explanation and evaluate from there. I'm still with ritoky as being town. Yes, indeed. In the same vein please explain this post: Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 22:56 Superbia wrote:
I also have no idea how people are evaluating slam as being non-town. 1) What is the point of declaring this before slam said anything about the shot? Aren't you interested at all/are you so sure about his alignment that you don't need him to? 2) If yes, why? What's towny about what he did?
I had him as town before anything happened and I'm not explaining my thought process on slam until he elaborates himself. If at that point you still feel a need to question me on this, repeat the question.
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On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this. Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing. I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own. Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times. Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion.
I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet.
I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle.
Am I scum going after her?
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I'm actually going to take a break from playing. Will be back later.
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On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
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Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this. Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing. I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own. Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times. Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion. I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet. I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle. Am I scum going after her? I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game. My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning.
She completely ignored my posts (i.e. no read on me whatsoever) and scum-read/went after my 2 town-reads. I want pressure on her.
What are you getting from all of this? I am genuinely curious. You're at the moment pretty much defending her by questioning the push on her. Why? Do you think mafia is actively pursuing her? What does this mean for your read on her? Why do you believe that pushes on her need to be questioned? Why are these questions relevant to solving the game? Is it more important than letting it play out and collecting information that way?
Tbf your play/agenda is really questionable.
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Okay extended break time.
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On March 25 2016 00:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 00:19 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 00:11 Superbia wrote:On March 25 2016 00:08 justanothertownie wrote:On March 25 2016 00:01 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
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Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Which ones, specifically? This one: On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 22:14 Damdred wrote:
That was horrible slam already claimed he shot I think?
Gum was super obvious after awhile meh.
I think rit probably town though @.@ really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_- so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy? (tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3) also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^ -pokes at rels- hihi oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming? The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true. Also this one: On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^
##vote ritoky
nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this. Is it? Mafia loves to pile on easy townreads. At some point everyone will figure out their own meta and adapt. It's always good town play to be wary. My point was logical and valid, albeit possiblY irrelevant for Koshi's alignment. The fact remains that the meta-reads on Koshi so far CAN be called careless, and that fact increases the likelihood of mafia spewing. I myself would like to see some pressure on RSO. I feel like what Ritoky has done has not been mafia indicative whatsoever. I personally care very little for the whole VT soft shenanigans and have paid little attention to that, but his mindset on the gumshoe incident lines up with my own. Sure, the Koshi townreads were quite careless. That is a fair point. But still you don't need to ask those questions if you ever played with Koshi and I think you did multiple times. Feel free to "pressure" rsoultin but if you actually scumread her I would like to know why. Don't you understand her point of view on the ritoky thing? I think it is pretty consistent even if you happen to disagree with the conclusion. I don't have a solid town read on Koshi yet. I'm going to assume from all of this that rso is super high in your town circle. Am I scum going after her? I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game. My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning. She completely ignored my posts (i.e. no read on me whatsoever) and scum-read/went after my 2 town-reads. I want pressure on her. What are you getting from all of this? I am genuinely curious. You're at the moment pretty much defending her by questioning the push on her. Why? Do you think mafia is actively pursuing her? What does this mean for your read on her? Why do you believe that pushes on her need to be questioned? Why are these questions relevant to solving the game? Is it more important than letting it play out and collecting information that way? Do you think your posts were so interesting that ignoring them would be unnatural as town? Because I ignored them too. I am not defending her at all. I want you to explain what is scummy about her to get a better read on YOU. So far the only thing you brought up was a disagreement about ritoky which isn't a very good reas. Pushes always need to be questioned.
She gave a read on pretty much everyone but me. I think that's questionable, as I felt I had been the most vocal at that point in time. I would expect at least -something-. Especially if you want to say something about everyone in the game so far (which her post seems to do). I don't think this is necessarily scummy, but paired with the fact that she is pushing in the opposite direction of where I want the game to go (I want to look at the gumshoe push), I want to see some pressure on her.
Now I'm taking my break (asshole). I still think we need to look into LS/kurumi/shapelog later today when I get back. Finish the timeline etc. Or just reach some hard conclusions.
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Tiiiiired.
Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.
JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.
I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.
Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.
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On March 25 2016 06:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Tiiiiired.
Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.
JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.
I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.
Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later. Slam clearly said he had to shoot D1. What direction are you talking about with JAT ?
But was there a time limit? I don't get shooting in the first 8 hours. I thought this would be clarified by slam through some role-mechanics thing.
For JAT: I'm finding it hard to put into words. I understand why he would push me on the rso push like that from a possible-town's perspective, but I find it hard to find the direction his mindset is going after that.
Tbf I feel like there is a rso/JAT/rels(you) circle going on which is going on ritoky(nono)/slam. Let me know if I'm reading that wrong.
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Seems like a skimmed a little too much. Slam is sort of okay from the post tubesock quoted.
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Ritoky why are you reading me town?
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