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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 22:28 GMT
#841
On March 25 2016 07:25 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:22 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:19 Kurumi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:15 ritoky wrote:
holy fuck it was not badly thought out. screw everyone who thinks so. that plan is really fucking good. execution dumpster tier? yes. but that plan is amazing, will defend it to no end. do not give any fucks.


You do know that hard setups like to have additional conditional KP? Like Assassins? You could've put us into a quite a pickle.


who cares if 2 blues die if you have idk....8 semi-confirmed townies operating as a voting block.....do you seriously undervalue townies knowing with 95% certainty who eachother are that much...just absolutely mindblowing....

people are so opposed to making plays for terrible reasons and they are eeyores about it on top of it.

Yeah exactly, so why did you out when you had 1 non VT and 1 maybe VT ?


because the car picture wasn't getting enough traction on it's own and it was too ambiguous and people didn't care. i wanted to indicate i was making a play to others. in reality simply closing the thread and leaving it sitting there would have had the same or greater effect over time as jat said, but i have trouble remaining inactive

This doesn't explain the "Damdred is blue" thing
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 24 2016 22:29 GMT
#842
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Damm i pick like the worse time to leave. Can someone tell me why the plan was bad? I thought the execution could of been better but i liked the concept.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 24 2016 22:30 GMT
#843
Still slightly catching btw.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 24 2016 22:30 GMT
#844
I can't load much but I felt it dutiful to state that I had really been agreeing with Kurumi when I submitted my shot but my being the power takes the rap.

So it is what it is I will keep up in the future but cba to read all the bs before now.

Blame yourself for being so goddamn fucking hostile.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 22:30 GMT
#845
On March 25 2016 07:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:25 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:22 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:19 Kurumi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:15 ritoky wrote:
holy fuck it was not badly thought out. screw everyone who thinks so. that plan is really fucking good. execution dumpster tier? yes. but that plan is amazing, will defend it to no end. do not give any fucks.


You do know that hard setups like to have additional conditional KP? Like Assassins? You could've put us into a quite a pickle.


who cares if 2 blues die if you have idk....8 semi-confirmed townies operating as a voting block.....do you seriously undervalue townies knowing with 95% certainty who eachother are that much...just absolutely mindblowing....

people are so opposed to making plays for terrible reasons and they are eeyores about it on top of it.

Yeah exactly, so why did you out when you had 1 non VT and 1 maybe VT ?


because the car picture wasn't getting enough traction on it's own and it was too ambiguous and people didn't care. i wanted to indicate i was making a play to others. in reality simply closing the thread and leaving it sitting there would have had the same or greater effect over time as jat said, but i have trouble remaining inactive

This doesn't explain the "Damdred is blue" thing


you're being so thick it is painful. blue or red, not blue firstly. and it is an indicator of differentiated response to the play i am making hey look at this VT response, look at this non-VT response. HEY ALL VTs I AM MAKING A PLAY AROUND US, READ YOUR FUCKING ROLE PM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

that didn't happen. blew my wad. should have closed the thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 22:31 GMT
#846
On March 25 2016 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
I can't load much but I felt it dutiful to state that I had really been agreeing with Kurumi when I submitted my shot but my being the power takes the rap.

So it is what it is I will keep up in the future but cba to read all the bs before now.

Blame yourself for being so goddamn fucking hostile.

Did you have a time limit to submit it ?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 22:32 GMT
#847
slam you ready to take our joint anger out on some random fantasy goons in liquidia? earn some money too?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 24 2016 22:33 GMT
#848
On March 25 2016 07:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:24 Kurumi wrote:
Wait why 8?


cuz i picked a random fucking large number


Is it really that huge? 21 players total. 4 probably Mafia. 17 players left. 8 players believe that they are Town. You still have 9 Townies not sharing that sentiment. That's excluding possible 3rd party shenanigans and different Mafia size (I could see it being 5 even). It does not seem that huge. Because it is 8 players analysing 13 players, you are much more likely to down or out a blue. This would probably result in last minute switch shenanigans and disorder. This would lead to Mafia having even more information. In that 8, you could have three Mafia who figured out that it is a good idea to get on that Ford Wave and now you have 5 townies believing strongly that 3 players are Townie, but are actually Mafia. Mafia creates lynch after lynch, blue blood is the last sight of the day, blue blood is the first sight of the day and since this setup is about being careful, I don't see it being good.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 24 2016 22:34 GMT
#849
Whatever this is pointless

Then am I mafia ritoky
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 24 2016 22:34 GMT
#850
On March 25 2016 07:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:28 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:25 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:22 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:19 Kurumi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:15 ritoky wrote:
holy fuck it was not badly thought out. screw everyone who thinks so. that plan is really fucking good. execution dumpster tier? yes. but that plan is amazing, will defend it to no end. do not give any fucks.


You do know that hard setups like to have additional conditional KP? Like Assassins? You could've put us into a quite a pickle.


who cares if 2 blues die if you have idk....8 semi-confirmed townies operating as a voting block.....do you seriously undervalue townies knowing with 95% certainty who eachother are that much...just absolutely mindblowing....

people are so opposed to making plays for terrible reasons and they are eeyores about it on top of it.

Yeah exactly, so why did you out when you had 1 non VT and 1 maybe VT ?


because the car picture wasn't getting enough traction on it's own and it was too ambiguous and people didn't care. i wanted to indicate i was making a play to others. in reality simply closing the thread and leaving it sitting there would have had the same or greater effect over time as jat said, but i have trouble remaining inactive

This doesn't explain the "Damdred is blue" thing


you're being so thick it is painful. blue or red, not blue firstly. and it is an indicator of differentiated response to the play i am making hey look at this VT response, look at this non-VT response. HEY ALL VTs I AM MAKING A PLAY AROUND US, READ YOUR FUCKING ROLE PM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

that didn't happen. blew my wad. should have closed the thread.

Meh. Will sleep on it and reread the game tomorrow. Like, this is maybe believable but the plan is so bad and you don't admit it and you're a super good player, especially regarding mechanics ... it's a closed setup with maybe crazy roles, no way is it a good idea to out blues. And it's also difficult for you to think scum wouldn't have the VT fakeclaim.
Read on VA ?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 22:34 GMT
#851
On March 25 2016 07:33 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:26 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:24 Kurumi wrote:
Wait why 8?


cuz i picked a random fucking large number


Is it really that huge? 21 players total. 4 probably Mafia. 17 players left. 8 players believe that they are Town. You still have 9 Townies not sharing that sentiment. That's excluding possible 3rd party shenanigans and different Mafia size (I could see it being 5 even). It does not seem that huge. Because it is 8 players analysing 13 players, you are much more likely to down or out a blue. This would probably result in last minute switch shenanigans and disorder. This would lead to Mafia having even more information. In that 8, you could have three Mafia who figured out that it is a good idea to get on that Ford Wave and now you have 5 townies believing strongly that 3 players are Townie, but are actually Mafia. Mafia creates lynch after lynch, blue blood is the last sight of the day, blue blood is the first sight of the day and since this setup is about being careful, I don't see it being good.


you're right because so many people were so easily able to identify what i was doing. and mafia always play perfectly, especially immediately at the start of the game when worried about thread entrance. infiltration was a HUGE RISK. man i was stupid to ever consider what i was doing. thank you.








not.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 24 2016 22:34 GMT
#852
Jeez
Rik needs to come down here. CAPSLZ LOCK isn't helpful.
I kinda agree with rik here. I liked the idea of the plan (like i said) but the execution was horrible. It made me think about suvs :/
Though this flip out is weird.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 22:35 GMT
#853
On March 25 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Whatever this is pointless

Then am I mafia ritoky


you're blue red or black. not green. if you think i am mafia then i am inclined toward red or black.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 22:37 GMT
#854
On March 25 2016 07:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:30 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:28 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:25 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:22 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:19 Kurumi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:15 ritoky wrote:
holy fuck it was not badly thought out. screw everyone who thinks so. that plan is really fucking good. execution dumpster tier? yes. but that plan is amazing, will defend it to no end. do not give any fucks.


You do know that hard setups like to have additional conditional KP? Like Assassins? You could've put us into a quite a pickle.


who cares if 2 blues die if you have idk....8 semi-confirmed townies operating as a voting block.....do you seriously undervalue townies knowing with 95% certainty who eachother are that much...just absolutely mindblowing....

people are so opposed to making plays for terrible reasons and they are eeyores about it on top of it.

Yeah exactly, so why did you out when you had 1 non VT and 1 maybe VT ?


because the car picture wasn't getting enough traction on it's own and it was too ambiguous and people didn't care. i wanted to indicate i was making a play to others. in reality simply closing the thread and leaving it sitting there would have had the same or greater effect over time as jat said, but i have trouble remaining inactive

This doesn't explain the "Damdred is blue" thing


you're being so thick it is painful. blue or red, not blue firstly. and it is an indicator of differentiated response to the play i am making hey look at this VT response, look at this non-VT response. HEY ALL VTs I AM MAKING A PLAY AROUND US, READ YOUR FUCKING ROLE PM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

that didn't happen. blew my wad. should have closed the thread.

Meh. Will sleep on it and reread the game tomorrow. Like, this is maybe believable but the plan is so bad and you don't admit it and you're a super good player, especially regarding mechanics ... it's a closed setup with maybe crazy roles, no way is it a good idea to out blues. And it's also difficult for you to think scum wouldn't have the VT fakeclaim.
Read on VA ?


VA is townish cuz he thinks rsoul is mafia and is right cuz she is.

and the plan is fucking good, it is not bad. honestly so dumb if you think it is bad. it is at worst a wash and at best massively townsided. yeah angle shooting is kinda shady so i can understand people not liking it on principle, but not because it is a bad idea, which it is not.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 24 2016 22:39 GMT
#855
On March 25 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:26 Tubesock wrote:
Ritoky is arguing why communism is such a great idea on paper.


communism is not good on paper. socialism is good on paper.


Same same.

You earlier town read Sicklucker. Can you elaborate? Maybe Obi also. I guess in one of your last lists you had SL above Vivax who fell for town reads (you didn't like his reads?) and then Obi as mid tier town.

Anyway, taking away the blue hunting I think Ritoky is town. And I do believe him about his plan. This isn't to say I trust him, but he's not going to be on the D1 lynch list.

I like the Sandroba plynch.

##Vote: Sandroba
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
March 24 2016 22:41 GMT
#856
On March 25 2016 07:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:19 Kurumi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:15 ritoky wrote:
holy fuck it was not badly thought out. screw everyone who thinks so. that plan is really fucking good. execution dumpster tier? yes. but that plan is amazing, will defend it to no end. do not give any fucks.


You do know that hard setups like to have additional conditional KP? Like Assassins? You could've put us into a quite a pickle.


who cares if 2 blues die if you have idk....8 semi-confirmed townies operating as a voting block.....do you seriously undervalue townies knowing with 95% certainty who eachother are that much...just absolutely mindblowing....

people are so opposed to making plays for terrible reasons and they are eeyores about it on top of it.

There is no 95 % certainity. This can never happen.
On March 25 2016 07:26 Tubesock wrote:
Ritoky is arguing why communism is such a great idea on paper.

Only that his plan isn't any good on paper.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 24 2016 22:41 GMT
#857
On March 25 2016 06:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 06:29 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam

What would scum!Slam benefit from shooting Town!Gun so early? I don't see much benefit at all from scum!Slam atm.

This does NOT matter. What matters is there was no town motivation to day KP so early. But since he had to shoot D1 it could make sense maybe. Still weird he didn't shoot an inactive IMO but not confirmed scum.


er hearing slams response im more suspect. he had over 38 more hours to make a decision..
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
March 24 2016 22:42 GMT
#858
On March 25 2016 07:39 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:26 Tubesock wrote:
Ritoky is arguing why communism is such a great idea on paper.


communism is not good on paper. socialism is good on paper.


Same same.

You earlier town read Sicklucker. Can you elaborate? Maybe Obi also. I guess in one of your last lists you had SL above Vivax who fell for town reads (you didn't like his reads?) and then Obi as mid tier town.

Anyway, taking away the blue hunting I think Ritoky is town. And I do believe him about his plan. This isn't to say I trust him, but he's not going to be on the D1 lynch list.

I like the Sandroba plynch.

##Vote: Sandroba

This is a pathetic copout vote.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
March 24 2016 22:43 GMT
#859
Like there is 0 reason to vote sandroba right now. It doesn't achieve anything.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 24 2016 22:43 GMT
#860
On March 25 2016 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:39 Tubesock wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:27 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:26 Tubesock wrote:
Ritoky is arguing why communism is such a great idea on paper.


communism is not good on paper. socialism is good on paper.


Same same.

You earlier town read Sicklucker. Can you elaborate? Maybe Obi also. I guess in one of your last lists you had SL above Vivax who fell for town reads (you didn't like his reads?) and then Obi as mid tier town.

Anyway, taking away the blue hunting I think Ritoky is town. And I do believe him about his plan. This isn't to say I trust him, but he's not going to be on the D1 lynch list.

I like the Sandroba plynch.

##Vote: Sandroba

This is a pathetic copout vote.


first thing you've said in pages that i have agreed with.

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great plan
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