Newbie Student Mafia XX - Page 5

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:32 GMT

#668

On April 10 2016 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:

I was drunk and I was using my drunk senses, which I do every game I get drunk and you know it.

Also I'm starting to believe the third is LS

You said you were more certain of him than TW which is weird given the current state of affairs. Even if you were drunk I'm sure you had SOME reason for it. Why?

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:34 GMT

#672

On April 10 2016 07:33 Damdred wrote:
Can we lunch tw first before gb though?

He actually is kind of worrying me with how he's lining up my lynch in case GB is actually town.

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:37 GMT

#676

On April 10 2016 07:34 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, so RB's whole game appears to be "LS called CH town and was right, and his reasons were bad, so he's mafia".

???

LS is ALWAYS BAD in most people's eyes. I don't know why I have to explain this to people still. I've said this like ten times.

The thing I really don't get about RB's push on LS, however, is how he hasn't interacted really with anyone else on it - especially not me. If I was *that* sure someone was mafia, and there was another playing posting incessantly negative things about my target, I'd be hitting them up for support.

That was tortured, but yeah ... I'm starting to dig the Race mafia case. My early read on him was based mostly on his picking out bf early as town, from a crowded field, for reasons that looked good after the fact. But since the middle of day 1 ish, his weird LS tunnel has me concerned.

Still up for a RB lynch but I'd both rather have GB and I don't want to switch over and end up get lynched instead.

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:38 GMT

#678

Meanwhile, still waiting for your case GB.

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:40 GMT

#684

On April 10 2016 07:39 Gossemerr wrote:
Can someone explain why we are adding lynch targets with 20 minutes left on the Day. We are going to end up with the EOD1 scenario...

Bleh, you're right. Me or GB today guys.

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:43 GMT

#689

On April 10 2016 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Why Artanis is Mafia

It's really simple. You have to think through mindsets.
Town mindset is "I have to lynch scum"

Artanis was scumreading me the entire day1. I've asked him if there was any time he considered if I could be town and he said it was when I started developing discussion using his post

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On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.

So, basically, he was certain I was scum when I had no follow-up, and there was no other reason to townread me.

I was the leading vote on EOD. Artanis had his main scumread going to die. He PROPOSES A SHENANNIE ON A GUY THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WAS MAFIA. THIS DOESN'T FIT TOWN PERSPECTIVE, because townies want to lynch scum and they won't risk mislynching a townie over a guy that could be town. IT IS SIMPLE AS THIS.

I've asked repeated questions to Artanis so he could explain what made him think FIdei could be mafia. He used the excuse that Fidei could be here but decided to play DOTA. Everyone knows that THAT ISN'T ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. It's the only excuse he could provide to lynching someone else. He said it was also because we weren't here do defend ourselves. From what, I ask? From not having follow ups? He accused me of that 36 hours straight, pratically.

So this is the reason: Artanis is Mafia because he tried a shenannie on a guy who didn't display a clear mafia trait instead of killing his main scumread, and this will never fit town mindset.

It's not a "narrative", it's pure syllogism:

"Town acts like X
Artanis didn't act like X
Artanis isn't town"

SIMPLE
AS
THAT

This suggests I was certain on you being scum. I wasn't. I'm still not certain, as you would probably know if you read my case just now. I was less certain back then, and Fidei did something I thought was very scum indicative, especially since he rolled scum the game before.

"Everyone knows playing DotA 2 hours before deadline after hearing you just ended up playing a game game when you rolled scum the game before isn't alignment indicative, especially knowing Fidei hates playing scum!"
Yeah that makes sense.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

April 09 2016 22:45 GMT

#692

I'm going to laugh pretty hard if all scum are in the inactive non-voters btw.

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:47 GMT

#700

On April 10 2016 07:41 Damdred wrote:
It coups be t v t. Pretty easily I've scanned arts filter and the amount of try hard makes me feel like he's town.

A lot of gb feels nai though but this counter omgus type deal sort of feels like town gb.

But I'm pretty behind,currently so skimming

I've seen him go after people he likes to go after all the time. Usually it's HF. I imagine he decided to pick me this game which makes sense given the opening where he already went after me a bit. I don't believe that that's alignment indicative. I do believe that how much he's tunneled into the read is though.

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:48 GMT

#703

On April 10 2016 07:47 GlowingBear wrote:

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On April 10 2016 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Artanis, I've clearly asked you if you thought I was town for other reasons and you said you didn't. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T THINK I WAS TOWN FOR NOTHING ELSE.

IF YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN I'M MAFIA HOW CAN YOU KEEP PUSHING ME WITHOUT CONSIDERING ANYONE ELSE ROFL PLEASE

So because I didn't have a straight-up reason to read you as town I should've lynched you? I can't lynch half the town at once honeybunny.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

April 09 2016 22:51 GMT

#707

On April 10 2016 07:49 GlowingBear wrote:
GG, fuck this

Artanis, Tumblewood, LS - maybe Spikasaur if I am wrong in one of these.

Race Bannon is town.

To be fair I'm more certain that Tumble is mafia over Artanis. But now it's too late.

Why is RB town?

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:51 GMT

#711

On April 10 2016 07:48 DoYouHas wrote:
I'm sorry guys, I cannot catch up before the deadline. A guy just threatened suicide by jumping off the 3rd floor balcony of my apartments. We called the police. He didn't jump. The game is low priority atm.

Ugh, sorry man :/ hope everything ends up alright.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

April 09 2016 22:52 GMT

#717

On April 10 2016 07:51 Damdred wrote:
Gb is town I think I'm voting on tw, art is town I think with a skim

Why is GB town?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

April 09 2016 22:55 GMT

#721

Bleh the only thing I didn't like about TW was the setting up of it always being TvS. If we're both town and he's scum that is an easy thing to push. Just dunno if scum would be so open about it if it was their plan to begin with.

Hasn't TW been mislynched a bunch already?

Artanis[Xp]

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April 09 2016 22:56 GMT

#723

On April 10 2016 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Cared enough even though he a being lynched to give a shitty last will.

Tone wise even if his push kinda sucks it does show some thought. Is all over the thread in some regards hands in everything etc. From my skin at least

Basically an appeal to emotion though, there's enough people around and enough people that might want to switch to still weasel out of it. I really don't think that's enough.

On April 10 2016 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I've voted tumblewood

Artanis, are you against voting him?

I think he's got a much smaller chance of flipping scum than you do, though definitely not impossible. He's in the null department.