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It just goes against everything geript had shown this game
He was super sure slam was scum, he saved him
He said 72h d1 was unacceptable, he provoked it
He ninja voted at the last minute to prevent this lynch
Still no explanation or indication as to why he was fake afking
Geript is 100% scum and he can explain his chnage if heart all he wants he should be lynched
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Well, good night Bros
Sorry koshi for the attack. Please stop being annoying. There is a reason nobody is attacking shape
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On March 10 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 08:30 Rels wrote:
It just goes against everything geript had shown this game
He was super sure slam was scum, he saved him
He said 72h d1 was unacceptable, he provoked it
He ninja voted at the last minute to prevent this lynch
Still no explanation or indication as to why he was fake afking
Geript is 100% scum and he can explain his chnage if heart all he wants he should be lynched ## unvote
##vote geriptfriends?
Cool
I'll do that tomorrow, too annoying on phone
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K friends. I'll be nicer starting tomorrow :p
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Please please be a real slip
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On March 10 2016 09:21 yamato77 wrote:Looking at Rels, as his kneejerk reactions to Slam and geript give me pause Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts: On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? kush pressures Shape into giving a read. On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion. Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually. But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me". I also didn't like these: On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness? Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town? Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious. On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain Yup. On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? Cool you dodged the question about commitment.And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now. Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above. Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure. I completely disagreed with how he interpreted Shape's early game. I thought Shape's responses to Vivax were town indicative. Anyone that's able to post as much as he was as freely as he was probably isn't mafia.
Then you're not aware of Shape playing a 30-pages scum game recently where he was townread for freely posting.
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On March 10 2016 09:34 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:I don't like this from Vivax: On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
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A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.
It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently scum points for you and town points for kush On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading. This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question. Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.
A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.
yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.
Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).
Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.
geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them. I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here. Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess. Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence. Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum." Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads.
There is no fucking inconsistency.
My first batch of reads were my thoughts after reading the few pages there were at the time. Of course they are going to evolve.
Vivas has been pushing to game forward with his activity + questionning. He's very likely town.
I've been saying all game than Slam can be found as scum when he's not doing anything to advance it. I've fought geript's meta read 'cause I think it was wrong. When Slam continued to have no scumread, I scumread him.
You claimed to have read my filter but you have missed everything I've said about Slam all game ?
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On March 10 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 09:34 yamato77 wrote:On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:I don't like this from Vivax: On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently scum points for you and town points for kush On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading. This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question. On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.
A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.
yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.
Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).
Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.
geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them. I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here. Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess. On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence. Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum." Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads. Yeah that is kinda if strange. Also look at his read progession on me: Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts: On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? kush pressures Shape into giving a read. On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. About vivax: If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow? Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it. About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss. Most likely what? Most likely he would use the excuss So Vivax is most likely town? Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason. This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion. Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually. But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me". I also didn't like these: On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness? Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town? Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious. On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain Yup. On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing? Giving reads is what this game is about. Why are you so opposed to it? Cool you dodged the question about commitment.And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now. Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above. Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 06:18 Vivax wrote:
town heroes:
shape
kush
vivax
town zeroes:
koshi
yamato
not even gonna try:
Slam
I dont know yet:
Rels
My current early maybe shit guess:
gerupt
morningwood This look very much like my mind right now. You are lower than that, yamato is closer to null 'cause he is more reactive than I would like. geript's meta read on Slam is fixed when it should have evolved given everything that's been said in thread. Tumblewood has 3 posts which contains one townread one slight townread and one null read. I understand the fact that I apparently a obv town, but I feel that Rels would of at least explain the change a bit more, considering that he did with the other ones. Maybe he town read me during the change, But i can not see him agreeing to the fact that I am his highest TR after him saying i did something he thought scum AI.
Again, my first reads were weak and I've only stated them so the game could advance. As the game went you've been very involved and saying smart things. You're very likely town.
Changing reads is NOT scum indicative. Especially since there is a reason for them to change. Furthermore, I am a very good scum. You will never see me as scum changing read without restating what I previously thought. Here I would say something like "Shape's first post was kinda bad but since blablabla that's why I townread him now." Here I don't care as much about me being consistent, I want to find scum. And I'm beginning to be angry of being scumread when I'm obviously trying to solve the fucking game.
On March 10 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 08:32 Rels wrote:
Well, good night Bros
Sorry koshi for the attack. Please stop being annoying. There is a reason nobody is attacking shape And I know this post is a while after, but now he is sus. me basically (unless this is a joke?) Idk how much this factors in though because he was gone for awhile and might of rethought.
This has nothing to do with reads. Koshi said he was angry that people were ad homing him and not you when you were saying the same things.
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On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, VivaxRels (1): Koshi yamato77 (0): Koshigeript (0): AlakaslamNot Voting (0): At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted. This is a really odd vote count in general. Rels has basically been disagreeing with my meta read for most of the game so far.
Disagreeing with your meta read is different from being against a slam lynch. I've been leaning on Slam scum more and more as time passed on, and I voted him after his post agreeing with you on Vivax which was nonsensical on several levels. You're reaching for explanation there.
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:30 Vivax wrote:
yea fwiw slam doesn't look scummy to me, im really happy hes playing his "new style". He's capable of being a good townie as shown when he was saitama, so for now I don't feel like lynching him Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote:
ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all.
Saitama was quite better than that. Hell Vivax has even been trying to push Tumble for scum while trying to convince Tumble to vote for Slam. There's tumble who's basically soft buddied me all game. Then there's Shape who's main thoughts on Slam have been related to Slam's townreads/PoE post. Basically, it's a wagon of me and 4 people who are ok to lynch but not terribly interested in lynching. On top of that, You have Vivax and Tumble who look to be opposite alignments voting together. Plus we have Yam, Kush, and Koshi all voting someone different and I was leaning town on all three. Slam looks like a bad lynch unless Rels or tumble is bussing; I don't think Slam/Shape is a realisitic pair but I could be wrong there.
Vivax is not a possible busser ? I thought you scumread him like a lot ?
Tumble is a possible busser ? I thought he was confirmed town ?
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On March 10 2016 19:09 Koshi wrote:
1. Rels/Vivax
2. Vivax/yamato
3. Rels/yamato
Koshi I'm not scum. Stop scumreading me for no reason. STOP. I'm tired. The only reason you've stated a long time ago was "Rels is not sure about some reads, saying X could be town but also scum" or something like that; It doesn't make sense. Fucking stop you're annoying.
I suppose you're talkinga bout this fucking post:
On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.
A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.
yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.
Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).
Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.
geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.
So. 4 people I'm not that sure on. Just after that I concludfe you are super likely town and geript is maybe town. This is not scummy and I'm tired of you being in my town games. You lynched me in nutcracker and melee. You townread me on crossfire and pyp. Stop being fuycking dumb and sotp saying I'm scummy.
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On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.
How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.
Come on Kush. Are we reading different games lol. Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific. Mindmelding. I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree. For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town.
You are wrong. Shape is town for being smart and involved in the game. Do NOT townread him for being happy and carefree ever. He's proved he can do that as town.
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On March 10 2016 22:02 Koshi wrote:
My biggest reason to suspect Rels is that has no conviction in solving the game and his reads.
-"We need the info from the flip"
- The push on Alakaslam
- "geript 100% mafia even if Alakaslam isn't mafia"
- The constant double reads. "x is mafia but x could be town because this reason" "x is town but could be mafia because y"
- How he attempted to read me twice but cannot commit an alignment on me.
I would feel better voting him first because I think he really is mafia but Vivax deserves to be out of this game.
I FUCKING COMMITED TO AN ALIGNMENT ON YOU
On March 10 2016 01:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 19:07 Koshi wrote:
72h for D1 is fine. I wouldn't go 96h though.
Alakaslam might be mafia but I don't know tbh. I feel like my mafia pool doesn't want to commit on him while they should have if they were town. Therefore, I don't want to lynch him. I don't know if I want to trust the godread from geript either, which would be the only reason I could see myself Alakaslam atm.
Tumble might be mafia but I don't think so. Roleplayers have a very high % being mafia. I don't know why that is, but it is true. #experience. But again, my own read on him is town.
Kush town but wrong atm.
Shape obv town.
geript town. The bold is strongly town indicative I think. It shows a will to solve the game via finding the scumteam.
Show me how my fucking push on slam is not logical.
The rest is not scum indicative
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Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript
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Geript is scum and needs to die today
Why ? He ninja unvoted Slam at the last minute before deadline. That is enough because it contradicts his mindset for the whole game. It doesn't make sense because:
1. His read on Slam
geript has been convinced all game Slam is scum. Apparently it's a meta read that works 100% of the time. Knowing that, it doens't make sense for geript to unvote Slam after saying these
+ Show Spoiler +On March 08 2016 14:24 geript wrote:
Skimmed through. Stopped to eat. Shape's biggest explanation of a non-read is really fucking odd. I'll figure that shit out later. Slam isn't trolling. He's not trolling all wrong too. There's a distinct lack of Slam town fun. So just lynch him and after that idk.
On March 08 2016 16:54 geript wrote:
I couldn't care less about Vivax so long as he votes for Slam. I don't have any accurate meta read on him and there's obvious scum.
Do you really want me to post a page and a half discourse about why Slam plays Mafia and how he approaches playing from both sides? Do you really want me to show you how he's not trolling? On top of that do you want me to show you how he's even not trolling how he does when he's scum? I've made this case like idk 4-5 times previously. I'm always right about it.
Game is simple. I find 1 scum and figure out if you're town and if Koshi is town. Literally all I need to do. On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. On March 09 2016 02:02 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Slam smurfing is a bit different. It kinda depends on how interested he is in not being found out and how long that interest lasts. On March 09 2016 02:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 22:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@getript how long has it been since you'll played with alakaslam? Tone-wise he's gotten a lot darker as of late.
I think as scum he usually gives a strong effort early to look townie, which I'm not seeing here. So I don't think a scumread is justified. Don't know. But there have been longer gaps and meta has always been accurate. He always tries to look however he thinks he'll be town read (as Mafia). It's not the same thing. Plus, it's not like Slam doesn't know about my godread on him. On March 09 2016 15:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 07:41 Alakaslam wrote:
So koshi, Rels, tumble wood likely towns
That leaves a lot of people.
I think Kush is probably town, and Yamato
That leaves less people but still a lot.
Can those I mentioned please talk about who looks scummy outside these? (As in, not Yamato, Koshi)
I am having a hard time keeping tabs on this as I am about to pick up my pupil from school Someone brought it up, but people seem to have missed it. Slam has 5 townreads on this post; when he adds himself that's only 3 people available to lynch left. There's 9 players and 2 mafia; there's literally zero reason to care who's the town in the last 3 as you can just lynch them with impugnity and win game. Like it's not even that hard. On top of that, Slam hasn't trolled at all since his return. There's no real fun-seeking behavior. There's no jolly to him. The closes thing is a token HIJOLE. There's no weaving of wanting to have fun between thoughts. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:22 Alakaslam wrote:On March 08 2016 16:18 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.
Unsurprisingly. He might be town. Unlike Slam. This is cute and such old meta. Go read Saitamaofonepunch and catch up for the chupazic way. And check that game where I was exactly like this and Marv lynches me and rayn goes apeshit because he thinks I was purposely trying to break my meta instead of busy with tutoring Regarding this, for further reference and proof of my godread, there was a game a while ago (I lose track since I play so infrequently now) that in post game or obs (i forget which) which I correctly read Slam as town despite him getting lynched. Rayn and I even talked about why in post game. Slam has slowly had changing meta for a while now (years really I think at this point), but the cores to it are the same. There's been a game or two that I've done analysis for I'm pretty sure that I've pointed this out. You're more than welcome to read them (the games, the analysis, whatever). I have a god read on Slam. He is scum. If you want to win, just lynch slam. On March 09 2016 15:33 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:32 Rels wrote:geript answer this please: On March 09 2016 05:42 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 02:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Slam smurfing is a bit different. It kinda depends on how interested he is in not being found out and how long that interest lasts. Why are you talking to me about Slam smurfing here ? Do you think he smurfed in Outlaw ? Cause that is not the case. Did you open the link I posted just before the post you quoted here ? Probably a misquote of something. Especially as that's been a topic earlier. In regards to your earlier thing about how my meta read should have changed or whatever... No. Meta reads don't change based on what random schmucks say. I've read/watched enough games and been current with Slam. I don't need to update. The meta hasn't changed; how he expresses is slightly different and that's been covered.
Now the only mention of his read on Slam post deadline is:
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:
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Slam looks like a bad lynch unless Rels or tumble is bussing; I don't think Slam/Shape is a realisitic pair but I could be wrong there.
Slam's play has not evolved since he's made geript made his meta read. The only reason he's now not that sure is association. It's not a reason for not lynching someone scummy D1 and geript is an experienced player that know this.
2. geript shared my mindset of we can't have a D1 that is too long
On March 09 2016 15:47 geript wrote:
Either way. I need to sleep. Long shift of playing in ball abscesses and shit... Literally.
You guys need to understand that we need to lynch. We have limited time in order to be able to lynch scum and burning 72 or 96 hours on D1 is unacceptable especially when we will always lose 24 hours for night phases. So we can go 4-4-5 which will assuredly end in 3 bad lynches or go 3-3-3-3 which will be better but lowers odds of a productive lynch on D3/4 as interest wanes. Best option is to lynch and keep the days and information moving before shit stagnates.
In his own words, 72 hours D1 is unacceptable. That is what geript believes. It makes no sense that geript would extend the D1 to 72 hours by unvoting his scumread because of D1 association reads.
3. His big post post-lynch
On March 10 2016 15:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 08:00 Half the Sky wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Alakaslam (4): geript, Vivax, Rels, Vivax, Tumblewood, Shapelog Vivax (3): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript Tumblewood (1): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, VivaxRels (1): Koshi yamato77 (0): Koshigeript (0): AlakaslamNot Voting (0): At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted. This is a really odd vote count in general. Rels has basically been disagreeing with my meta read for most of the game so far. Vivax is the guy who's pushed basically anything. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:30 Vivax wrote:
yea fwiw slam doesn't look scummy to me, im really happy hes playing his "new style". He's capable of being a good townie as shown when he was saitama, so for now I don't feel like lynching him Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote:
ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all.
Saitama was quite better than that. Hell Vivax has even been trying to push Tumble for scum while trying to convince Tumble to vote for Slam. There's tumble who's basically soft buddied me all game. Then there's Shape who's main thoughts on Slam have been related to Slam's townreads/PoE post. Basically, it's a wagon of me and 4 people who are ok to lynch but not terribly interested in lynching. On top of that, You have Vivax and Tumble who look to be opposite alignments voting together. Plus we have Yam, Kush, and Koshi all voting someone different and I was leaning town on all three. Slam looks like a bad lynch unless Rels or tumble is bussing; I don't think Slam/Shape is a realisitic pair but I could be wrong there.
I had a good reason to vote Slam, so the part on me is BS.
Tumble is a possible busser there ?
Vivax is not a possible busser there ?
This post is written to explain to try to explain his ninja vote. It is not consistent with geript's read, which is Vivax scum (not a busser ?) Tumble town (possible busser ?) Shape newbie town (could be a pair ?).
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On March 10 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Rels what is your read on yamato?
Scum if Slam is not.
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On March 10 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Rels what is your read on yamato? Scum if Slam is not. Why is he not scum with Slam?
Because geript is scum. See the post above. Then you can vote him.
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