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On February 21 2016 14:29 Tumblewood wrote:Breshke really doesn't seem very invested in the game. Filter diving him and I found: + Show Spoiler +On February 21 2016 09:07 Breshke wrote: Well done people
DId i miss anything important - Someone who didn't bother to give the thread a cursory read (~7 pages since he was last there) On February 21 2016 01:37 Breshke wrote: Lynch Scott he doesn't care That's a reason, but not a thoughtful one On February 21 2016 09:11 Breshke wrote: So I still think trefel and rsoul are town cos yeah.
Also from the little of what I read noon looks really townie
So lets just pretend my reads are really good and lynch Scott, tumble and TT in that order The reasons for his reads are "cos yeah" (though it's a pretty common opinion) and none given for the second. He gives opinions but doesn't act like he cares about them. Not to mention the AFKness for the majority of the day
So do you think this makes me mafia? Draw a conclusion.
I do care about my reads I've though Rsoultin and trefel have been town for like the entire game.
Who do you want to lunch next?
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Kush is this game as easy as it seems
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People should also look at the reason why GB didn't want to vote scott as well.
On February 18 2016 05:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 05:46 Breshke wrote:On February 18 2016 05:45 GlowingBear wrote:On February 18 2016 05:42 Breshke wrote:On February 18 2016 05:41 GlowingBear wrote: People, do you have ANY reason to townread SL? GB i promise you just leave this to D2. I know what your problem is but it is better to leave it to D2 Meh.... Okay Vote Kush with me then Why not scott? I have a pact with him in which I don't lynch him day ones
At the time I didn't even think this response was scummy and i still don't I do think it is scummy however is that GB hardly mentioned scott D2. This was the only post where he did mention a read on him
On February 21 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote: I've already gave my reads, the strongest read I had once was Eden being town and sicklucker and Kush being Mafia.
I think Truffle is townie although his push on me is weird I think Tictock is townie for the way he is engaging the game. Shapelog is town. Shining is town. I don't know about Breshke, he sounds townish but he doesn't look very engaged to the thread. Sometimes he comes, comment things and disappears. I thought Kush was Mafia but I'm not sure anymore after reading his filter. He seems very engaged in finding scum especially on how he faces Tictock, so he might be town after all. I think Tumblewood could be Mafia out of PoE. Not really strong reasons against him because nothing stands out from his filter but his images, that can be easily done to get towncred. He has done nothing with those "lots of information" after he posted them, and some of them are distorted interpretation of what people say in thread. I think Rsoultin is Mafia because she can read me well and her flip on me doesn't make sense and is very opportunistic considering she is following thread sentiment. I have no idea about scott but I also don't understand his scum read on me which also feels very opportunistic considering I'm his counter wagon and he hasn't commented a single post from my filter
IDK feels like GB didnt want to push his teammate? But im not sure why he would care about bussing there so i think im just seeing what I want to see
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On February 21 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote: So Scum!GB threw his vote off the main 2 wagons of D1. I.E Palmar and Scott. Does this mean anything in terms of scott's alignment? This would actually strongly indicate that Scott is town. GB was active at deadline, but didn't have any care as to who got lynched between Scott and Palmar. GB may have been trolling this whole game but I still think he'd try to save his teammate.
Is this your only reason to townread Scott?
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You also have to remember TT that iirc Town hero SL only changed his vote to plamar fairly late so it wasn't as close as it actually seemed.
So imagine the world where it is GB Tumble and Scott
Scott is afk and there is 4 votes on palmar and only 3 on Scott. GB and tumble don't want to vote together because scum normally want to avoid that unless they had good justifications for their votes. So tumble votes palmar which brings its to 5 to 3 which is actually fairly safe because the only people voting off wagon are Scott (not going to vote for himself), kush(said he was fine with a a palmar lynch so won't vote to save him and shining who was doing his own thing.
But yeah this is all a narrative I've created obviously but I'm just showing there is the situation where the votes arnt that weird
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Also trefel has mentioned it and it's weird giving reasons that you yourself is town but the D1 votes is one of the biggest reasons I think you should think I am town
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On February 22 2016 10:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 10:32 Breshke wrote: Also trefel has mentioned it and it's weird giving reasons that you yourself is town but the D1 votes is one of the biggest reasons I think you should think I am town I don't understand. What about your vote was alignment indicative? Especially before we know Scott's alignment...
Even if they are both town why do I as scum choose to push Scott over palamr who had a 100% scum read on me and when actually tries is an amazing player
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On February 22 2016 10:35 Tictock wrote: Humm maybe you have a point GB.
Looking at the votes again it was 4 v 2 (Palmar v Scott) after I voted for Palmar. This was when GB put his vote on Kush.
After that it was Rsoul swapping to Scott that tied the wagons 3v3 but Eden voted at like the same time so it was 4v3 5 min till EoD
Tumble and SL voted at about the same time, with SL's switch to scott being what made the wagon's tied.
So you are correct that GB's vote came at a time when scott was not really looking like one of the main wagons, but I still feel like it's weird that GB would have kept his vote off by itself if it was Scum v Town.
Also if it is town v scum then the other two scum members don't want to both vote the town wagon because that makes them look like shit and they are normally hyper aware of that
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On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 05:26 Breshke wrote:On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game.
Maybe just lynch him? This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options. Who are the valid options? I think trefels post is perfectly justified. Right now my lynch list is shining, GB, scott and palmar. I have not mentioned any of these people before and it is mostly based on activity and how this EoD is turning out. SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind.
On February 19 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: Wow I am regretting my Palmar vote more and more by the hour. The reason I voted was because there were three wagons sitting at two votes (Scott, Shining, and... GB, I think) and I thought they all sucked. They were all effectively p-lynches on people who hadn't been active, and those hit town more often than not.
Tumbles filter really confuses me. Top post was pre D1 lynch second post was post lynch. First of all im fairly sure the lynches were never at 2 votes each especially not when tumble ended up voting for palmar and also in the first post he calls people good lynches and in the second he says the same people were bad wagons. I know there was a lynch inbetween so we got more information but i don't really see him using any of that information to make this change of reads.
Ive pointed out other disconnects in his posts before and im not sure if it is just because he is a new player or not but he also doesn't feel very involved in the thread and when he is around i feel like he just takes pot shots at people.
Still want to lynch scott first because cant risk bringing him to mylo
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yeah but how long too lynch was there from then rsoul? Because the way shape says it he was talking about when he placed his vote and didnt he change his vote to palmar in like last 5 mins?
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nevermind i looked for myself like a normal functioning humanand youre right. Still feel like the calling people good then bad lynches is a disconnect
also preflip association there of him voting GB to save scott
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On February 22 2016 12:24 rsoultin wrote: so my problem here is while i get not wanting to lynch afk players, i don't get lynching someone he seemed to have at least as a partial townread over the 3 afk players. it's counter-intuitive @.@
yeah this is a really good point
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I can give excuses why I was gone D2 but it doesn't really matter because I'm fairly sure it won't affect anyone's reads and after looking at my filter you guys will still townread my anyway.
I feel like if I was tumble Scott or TT the game is really easy and in not feeling that from their posts. Other than TT I don't see them actively questioning the like thread agreed townreads nor do I see them saying "this game is easy it's the other two". I think the best way to say it is keeping their options open?
I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right
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On February 22 2016 13:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 13:36 Breshke wrote: I can give excuses why I was gone D2 but it doesn't really matter because I'm fairly sure it won't affect anyone's reads and after looking at my filter you guys will still townread my anyway.
I feel like if I was tumble Scott or TT the game is really easy and in not feeling that from their posts. Other than TT I don't see them actively questioning the like thread agreed townreads nor do I see them saying "this game is easy it's the other two". I think the best way to say it is keeping their options open?
I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right
um, you mean, if we think it's easy and poe'd down to the three of them, shouldn't they think it's even more in the bag, since the town player presumably already knows who the scum are? essentially?
Yes
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On February 22 2016 15:02 Tictock wrote: It's exactly what I'd expect you to post as scum? I'm not sure how to explain
You're assuming what others see the game as and painting a world based on that
There's also a kinda circular logic going on.
"My PoE is these 3 people, those 3 should share my reads and thus find this easy, it's weird that that isn't happening..."
its not just my poe though. its near enough to rsoultins, trefels and noons maybe bar like 1 person.
I don't think you guys should share my reads thats the point, either you DO share my reads and its an ez game for you to figure out or you don't share my reads and shit is catastrophically fucked and you should be trying to work out who from the "townreads" is mafia.
Like I said you were doing this but tumble and scott arn't
Also yes i was assuming how they seee the game but only from information from their posts.
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Scott if I was you I wouldn't worry about the second scum for now.
Why am I scum? What feels off?
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WOuld scumread TT for tmi but that is too easy and I don't think this game is easy anymore
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