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Scott: "Noonie is town because of the things he did, Breshke is scum, if rsoul is scum I'll be mad, TT is town for trying to solve the game and not being opportunistic. That's it for my reads" I want more but I don't think we're going to get it or that it's really going to help. Scott, if you care at all about not being lynched, actually come and play the game.
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On February 23 2016 10:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 10:06 Tumblewood wrote: TUMBLE: Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute?
I woke up pretty late on the day of the deadline, so I spent most of the time catching up. I voted Palmar 5-10 minutes before deadline after realizing my Shape vote would be wasted. The question I answered was, "if you could do it again, who would you vote instead?" and yes I said GB. Lol >< I mean, why GB? I understand that you said him but why did you say him instead of someone else? I'm trying to understand your thought process if you're town, which I do think is quite possible tbh. I just looked through my notes and chose the person with the most negative annotations on their page. Easier than actually reading the thread.
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On February 23 2016 12:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:On February 23 2016 10:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 23 2016 10:06 Tumblewood wrote: TUMBLE: Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute?
I woke up pretty late on the day of the deadline, so I spent most of the time catching up. I voted Palmar 5-10 minutes before deadline after realizing my Shape vote would be wasted. The question I answered was, "if you could do it again, who would you vote instead?" and yes I said GB. Lol >< I mean, why GB? I understand that you said him but why did you say him instead of someone else? I'm trying to understand your thought process if you're town, which I do think is quite possible tbh. I just looked through my notes and chose the person with the most negative annotations on their page. Easier than actually reading the thread. okay, that tracks...actually your filter in general tracks pretty well lol >< which is leading me toward agreeing with truffle (and noon?) on his scumteam, but anyway can you talk to me about tictock? i see where your read progression went with noon and bresh but not with tictock (though i may have missed it in your filter) A bunch of my townreads (Trfel, noonie) brought him up, so I started looking more critically at him, plus he's one of three possible scum by POE in my mind. Really, though, he's not far from clearing himself as town himself to me. The read is mostly based off of tone/attitude-- he's making it clear that he's trying to solve the game.
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I won't be here for EoD, but I might be able to be here on my phone in a couple hours if reception allows (around twelve my time)
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TT's play is good but his votes are weird...
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@Trfel, in response to your question: I don't really remember why I scumread Palmar; I think I'd been seeing a lot of reasons why Palmar was scum (were they for you? I was taking your reads into pretty high consideration at the time) and didn't oppose the notion. I was pretty pressed, also, to act like I had some insight into the game.
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I just got caught up on the game (a surprising lack of spam; and I'm sorry, hosts, for not voting) and I don't want to quote anything, so here are my entirely unsupported reads: Tictock Tictock has had a general air of promoting town values, but he also hasn't done anything very alignment indicative-- in either direction. He's a scum read, not because he's acting scummy, but because he is less townie than several other players. Basically, he's acting like town but hasn't done anything in particular that makes me think he's town. Trfel Trfel is 100% town for me at this point for putting a concerted effort toward solving the game and having well-reasoned reads. nooniansoong I was very heavily swayed by his "I will attack you post game if you don't vote GB" post. I don't think that would come from scum, but it always could. By any means, I'm not pushing to lynch him in the near future. Breshke I think I've explained Breshke before, but not very thoroughly. Basically, he is who I think is most likely to be scum because he has shown little involvement in the game recently. rsoultin I don't think rsoul's "stop scumreading me for being good at scum" post would come from scum... but then again, rsoul is good at scum Other than that post, nothing has established rsoul as town or scum except tone, and my weak tone read is town lean.
TL;DR Sorry hosts, D4 I'll vote for Breshke
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On February 24 2016 15:16 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 14:07 Tumblewood wrote: @Trfel, in response to your question: I don't really remember why I scumread Palmar; I think I'd been seeing a lot of reasons why Palmar was scum (were they for you? I was taking your reads into pretty high consideration at the time) and didn't oppose the notion. I was pretty pressed, also, to act like I had some insight into the game. You are either very confused or are lying out your ass right here. I also can't help but notice that you have a NULL read on me at this point? It's so weird to me that I've been pushing you all game and you keep saying I'm kinda towny... If you are town you should be fucking concerned about my alignment and trying to convince me that I'm wrong or lynch me respectively. There are two kinds of people in the game: town, and scum. [citation needed] If you are town, you could see me as scummy for my actions in this game. If you are scum, you could be trying to push a mislynch on me. I do not know which of those two is correct. You and Breshke could be pushing for a final mislynch on me, or one or both of you could be town. I cannot tell which is true, hence the null read.
On February 24 2016 15:27 Tictock wrote: Oh I guess he did post that after Palmar had flipped (but before Eden!?!)
Actually this begs the question, Tumble did you make those notes only after deadline?
I had been under the impression you were making them all day, but now see there wasn't one for Palmar. After deadline, I was really confused what to think on everyone because I didn't know where everyone stood, so I sorted it on paper.
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TT, a townie in this situation is not using tarot cards to determine his vote. No decent townie would in any other situation, but... this is MyLo.
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Trfel, your D1 reads are allowed to be bad because we had 0 flips or claims, and little filter to use.
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On February 25 2016 11:57 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 11:04 Tumblewood wrote: Trfel, your D1 reads are allowed to be bad because we had 0 flips or claims, and little filter to use. Do you mind providing one or two examples of reads that you feel make me town this game? Your D2 scumread of GB And of course your townread on me  Also, I remember that in the postgame qt for NSM XIX you talked about "questions that make someone X if they answer like Y but I can't indicate what Y might be" and you're doing a whole lotta that now.
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I have nothing to ask you to clue me in to your identity, and it feels a little silly to ask you about Breshke when I could gather information on Breshke myself. So, Breshke...
Yeah, I have no questions right now. Except maybe on what the point of the whole tarot thing was.
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On February 25 2016 16:16 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 10:18 Tumblewood wrote: TT, a townie in this situation is not using tarot cards to determine his vote. No decent townie would in any other situation, but... this is MyLo. Kinda how I'd expect mafia to react to my Tarot. Pushing me as scum without really saying I'm scum. "Hmmm... seems like something a SCUM would do." But why wouldn't someone going for a mislynch say it outright?
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On February 26 2016 01:42 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 00:37 Tumblewood wrote:On February 25 2016 16:16 Tictock wrote:On February 25 2016 10:18 Tumblewood wrote: TT, a townie in this situation is not using tarot cards to determine his vote. No decent townie would in any other situation, but... this is MyLo. Kinda how I'd expect mafia to react to my Tarot. Pushing me as scum without really saying I'm scum. "Hmmm... seems like something a SCUM would do." But why wouldn't someone going for a mislynch say it outright? i dont understand what you are saying here. - I said, basically, "a townie wouldn't do this" (because trolling in MyLo and acting like it would determine his vote... It should have been obvious he had other reasons) - He said, basically, "that's how I'd expect scum to react, pushing me without saying it" - I responded by asking why mafia wouldn't just push for the lynch - Here we are now
Also, kush, why are you suddenly townreading TT?
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Also, why one of Trfel and rsoul? Those are the two people who are IMO least likely to be scum.
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I'm seeing all of these posts on breshke and realizing more and more that my scumread on him is really weak. I'd switch back to a no-lynch, but that could end up costing us the game with Trfel 's situation, so I'm going to tictock. +more reasons coming later, I'm phoneposting right now
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On February 26 2016 11:46 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 11:41 Tumblewood wrote: I'm seeing all of these posts on breshke and realizing more and more that my scumread on him is really weak. I'd switch back to a no-lynch, but that could end up costing us the game with Trfel 's situation, so I'm going to tictock. +more reasons coming later, I'm phoneposting right now When you get back, these posts about Breshke that you refer to, aren't they posts by Tictock? If these posts are good enough to make you want to not lynch Breshke, why would this make you want to lynch the person who posted them? Maybe Tumblewood is mafia after all..... Idk where this notion is coming from that I can't agree with someone if also I think they're scum. I'm not thinking this because TT said it, I'm thinking about it because he said it and coming to the same conclusion.
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I wasn't convinced by his arguments, I was pushed to reexamine my read and decided that my cues on Breshke were not as damming as I thought.
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On February 26 2016 13:54 Trfel wrote: Okay, so my paranoia check on Tumblewood showed that Tumblewood's scumread on Breshke is primarily based on Breshke's lack of activity lately. Which is something that has been discussed in the time of Tumblewood's read change.
It makes sense, even if it doesn't feel quite right to me? Meh. Not going to worry about it for now. It's not that, it's his lack of investment. I still think it's scummy, but I don't think it's enough to justify voting him in MyLo because town also often seems uninvested.
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Of course, if and after we vote TT (the one I'm currently more concerned about) we will have to lynch a second scum, and Breshke will be the best option there... ugh this game is hard
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