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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 21:09 GMT
#1241
i got roleblocked
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 29 2016 21:09 GMT
#1242
GG GL HF
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 21:11 GMT
#1243
that nk looks bad for trfel and ikid.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 29 2016 21:13 GMT
#1244
Firstly, not going to talk about my other choices.

My thought process


-Inactivity: Shitty situation irl, but he wasn't particularly helpful before he told us, and I don't think he was particularly helpful once he came back. Basically ended up trolling

-He had had a wagon earlier. If he flipped scum, I thought it could give us a ton of juicy info

-Couldn't get a read on him worth a shit.

-Thought I was going to die, so wanted to get my shot off

Sorry to Onegu. RIP Alur
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 29 2016 21:14 GMT
#1245
On January 30 2016 05:55 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 05:52 Trfel wrote:
I mean, I see why the rest of his play is mafia motivated and why it might come from mafia. I'm just having trouble with this part...

Onegu is a cocky shit who thinks he's better than me. Easy. He told us that himself earlier in the game.

I admit that it's possible that I'm not being objective about it, because I really want to take him down a peg for being a dick this game, but I think that's a perfectly reasonable explanation.



Not think, know
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 29 2016 21:14 GMT
#1246
gg
Try TL Mafia!!!
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 21:18 GMT
#1247
Scumlist 2.0

JesusIncarnate

Ikidomari

Trfel
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 21:18 GMT
#1248
##vote Tumblewood
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 29 2016 21:19 GMT
#1249
On January 30 2016 06:09 nooniansoong wrote:
i got roleblocked


Interesting
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 21:21 GMT
#1250
Yeah, I just realized that that's extremely interesting.

Mafia knew there was a vigilante. They roleblocked nooniansoong. I expect nooniansoong's reads at the time to have some really good info.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 29 2016 21:21 GMT
#1251
On January 30 2016 05:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 05:23 Trfel wrote:
If I may, I don't think that this is productive.

Unoriginal Name Mini Mafia

Eden had a 9 page filter. The game ended early in Day 4. He was town.



That is fine. He is still scum.

Onegu.....I had Hopes that you would try hard.....So many hopes.....
brb while i catch up
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 21:22 GMT
#1252
On January 29 2016 10:07 nooniansoong wrote:
Braglist 1.2

Tumblewood
JesusIncarnate
Ikidomari
Onegu
He later got rid of Ikidomari, and showed increased suspicion for Tumblewood.

To me this is further evidence that Tumblewood is mafia, and suggests that JesusIncarnate is mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 29 2016 21:23 GMT
#1253
Unless nooniansoong is mafia and Alur was roleblocked... but I don't think that this is as likely.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 29 2016 21:25 GMT
#1254
I am not even mad at Darth for shooting onegu.
Sucks that Alur died
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 21:26 GMT
#1255
On January 30 2016 06:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 10:07 nooniansoong wrote:
Braglist 1.2

Tumblewood
JesusIncarnate
Ikidomari
Onegu
He later got rid of Ikidomari, and showed increased suspicion for Tumblewood.

To me this is further evidence that Tumblewood is mafia, and suggests that JesusIncarnate is mafia.


hellz nah bro you can't use my own braglist against me.
It's obvious I would have shot Jesusincarnate. I was on the fence about tumble.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 29 2016 21:28 GMT
#1256
So kush got Rbed.
Which means at least one of his scum reads have to be mafia. (Fuck WIFOM at this point)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 21:31 GMT
#1257
On January 30 2016 06:28 Shapelog wrote:
So kush got Rbed.
Which means at least one of his scum reads have to be mafia. (Fuck WIFOM at this point)


it means jesusincarnate is mafia.
He was my most consistent scumread.
Good vig shot due to low activity.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 29 2016 21:50 GMT
#1258
I just want to say thank you to the mafia team. Thank you for not killing me and also for somewhat validating my reads with your roleblock.
D2 is the best day yayyyy.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 29 2016 22:00 GMT
#1259
hmmmmmmm.

I'm a bit skeptical about this roleblock claim. I don't know how reasonable it is to be suspicious of kush for this though.

Basically, knowing there was a vig, and knowing the mafia know there was a vig, they had three possible roles to play around:

1. the vig (of course)
2. the veteran
3. the doctor

It's plausible to roleblock somebody to play around a vigilante, which is the main reason why I don't think the claim is too weird. I don't know why kush though.

But when you consider that they would also know about a protective role, wouldn't it make more sense to use the roleblock on that instead of trying to roleblock to maybe protect someone?

Like I can't imagine using the roleblocker to protect Jesus from vig!Kush. The number of things you'd have to have lined up to make that a reasonable play are a bit too high for me.
1. you'd have to have a good read on kush being the vig. I don't see how you would do that. Maybe reading kush lying low as a blue makes sense, but specifically vig doesn't really make sense to me.
2. you'd have to have a good read on kush wanting to shoot Jesus. if you read him as vig I guess that's safe.
3. Jesus would also have to be mafia. obviously, but still worth noting.

That's just a lot of moving parts. I don't think that's what did it.

And obviously, since they shot Alur, they weren't playing around a veteran.

So that leaves a doc. I don't remember kush being adamant about Alur being town... far from it, kush suggested Alur could be mafia at a couple of points. I guess if you just are trying to hit the doc at random then kush is an ok target for lying low...

but then that raises another question. If they reasonably thought kush was doc, why not shoot kush?


That leaves me with four possible explanations:
1. Mafia thought kush was the vig and roleblocked him to protect Jesus. This means Jesus is mafia and the mafia also didn't feel the need to play around a veteran. Lots of parts here but not impossible.
2. Mafia thought kush was the doc and roleblocked him to prevent him from protecting someone. This could be the case I guess, but it makes very little sense because I would basically always shoot the doc n1 if I had a good read on him.
3. Mafia didn't really think kush was anything and just roleblocked him. This is clearly suboptimal mafia play: if there's a vet in the game, you rb your kill if you don't think anyone else is a blue, and if there's a doc in the game and you don't think it's kush, you rb someone else to try to hit the doc.
4. kush is fakeclaiming rb.

(*: Obviously claiming roleblocked doesn't confirm you town, and is NAI, but sometimes townies take an illogical stance on the roleblock and incorrectly (from a process standpoint) confirm a townie to be town. Why risk that if you don't really have a lead on a blue?)

So basically, either kush is mafia or Jesus is. Because kush's rb claim can only be genuine from the standpoint where the mafia think kush is the vig, and they used the rb to protect Jesus from kush.

I'd have to go look and see if Jesus is the one. kush did seem to be mostly on Jesus.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 29 2016 22:03 GMT
#1260
On January 30 2016 06:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 06:28 Shapelog wrote:
So kush got Rbed.
Which means at least one of his scum reads have to be mafia. (Fuck WIFOM at this point)


it means jesusincarnate is mafia.
He was my most consistent scumread.

Good vig shot due to low activity.

Lol kush.
But any ways my faith in jesus's towness is gone since he lied about his epic posts. He is super scummy because of that to me.
##Vote: JesusIncarnate
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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