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On January 29 2016 02:08 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:06 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit. Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)? Goof on my part. I just remember someone saying something about NK's being weird due to a doc. Who said this and where?
No clue who it was, and pretty early on.
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On January 29 2016 01:52 nooniansoong wrote:
scumlist for brags
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
10. Onegu
13. Shapelog
You're saying I opened up by bussing my fellow scum, while continuously being critical of his playstyle.
While also slightly leaning scum on Onegu, and stating that only 1 of Onegu and Trfel could be mafia. So even if I were to help getting Trfel lynched, it would put immense pressure on my scummate.
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I think kura townslipped. Aka dumbtell
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On January 29 2016 02:34 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 01:52 nooniansoong wrote:
scumlist for brags
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
10. Onegu
13. Shapelog
You're saying I opened up by bussing my fellow scum, while continuously being critical of his playstyle. While also slightly leaning scum on Onegu, and stating that only 1 of Onegu and Trfel could be mafia. So even if I were to help getting Trfel lynched, it would put immense pressure on my scummate.
Well there's 4 people there so at least 1 has to be wrong lol...
Honestly i have very little confidence in that.
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Welp, can't we find this out for sure when we try to lynch him? Claims, CCs and all that?
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To be honest it doesn't even make sense kush, due to how all those 4 players have interacted with each other.
Only one that makes sense really is Me/Trofl/Alur since we all have town read/lean each other.
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On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either. 50/50 = 75/25 I enjoy that logic. No clue what rule you could be referencing. "Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you
Yeah, my bad.
Still no clue about the rule.
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Hello, I will catch up to page 30. Then in approximately 5 hours i will catch up to page 45.
Read my posts, they will contain vital information.
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You're actually right. I had to do more than a cursory search on the terms to find them. So talking about the terms is NAI.
Although the point regarding how he only asked when it was brought up against him, suggests that he didn't care about understanding the thread that much while reading through it.
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On January 29 2016 02:39 Shapelog wrote:
To be honest it doesn't even make sense kush, due to how all those 4 players have interacted with each other.
Only one that makes sense really is Me/Trofl/Alur since we all have town read/lean each other.
Ya without a doubt I'm wrong on almost everyone probably lol.
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I keep forgetting to quote people when replying to them. I'll try and fix that.
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NAI means not alignment indicative, for anyone still wondering.
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On January 29 2016 02:40 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either. 50/50 = 75/25 I enjoy that logic. No clue what rule you could be referencing. "Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you Yeah, my bad. Still no clue about the rule.
The rule we're referencing is the rule about how the game is played on 1 out of 4 possible setups.
Explained here by the host: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix#2
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On January 29 2016 02:37 darthfoley wrote:
Welp, can't we find this out for sure when we try to lynch him? Claims, CCs and all that?
If he is Doc: well he just outed himself
If he is Vt and there is a Doc and he outs: We lose a Doc for a vt, Horrible
If he Is Scum, claims, and get CCed: We lose a doc for a scum, which is O.K. but considering how every successful heal adds a +1 to the needed mislynch counter
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On January 29 2016 02:35 nooniansoong wrote:
I think kura townslipped. Aka dumbtell
I assume you have no reasons or that you're not willing to share them.
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On January 29 2016 02:51 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:35 nooniansoong wrote:
I think kura townslipped. Aka dumbtell I assume you have no reasons or that you're not willing to share them.
If he were scum he would have known that there isn't definitely a doc. Instead he read something and misinterpreted it to mean there was a doc
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I clicked post too quickly
So if we can I rather we try to keep the doc underwrap.
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On January 29 2016 02:50 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:37 darthfoley wrote:
Welp, can't we find this out for sure when we try to lynch him? Claims, CCs and all that? If he is Doc: well he just outed himself If he is Vt and there is a Doc and he outs: We lose a Doc for a vt, Horrible If he Is Scum, claims, and get CCed: We lose a doc for a scum, which is O.K. but considering how every successful heal adds a +1 to the needed mislynch counter
He's not gonna claim doc if he's VT.
Please Kura don't claim doc if you're VT.
If we trade we also get to talk to a confirmed town player before he get's lynched. I think I'm ok with trading doctor for a scum, especially when there's a 66% chance of it being a special mafia, and seeing that doctor is at risk of getting lynched anyways.
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On January 29 2016 02:50 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:40 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either. 50/50 = 75/25 I enjoy that logic. No clue what rule you could be referencing. "Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you Yeah, my bad. Still no clue about the rule. The rule we're referencing is the rule about how the game is played on 1 out of 4 possible setups. Explained here by the host: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix#2
Oh, didn't know that qualified as a rule. I was aware of it but
Crap, teach tapping my shoulder..
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On January 29 2016 02:56 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 02:51 Alur wrote:On January 29 2016 02:35 nooniansoong wrote:
I think kura townslipped. Aka dumbtell I assume you have no reasons or that you're not willing to share them. If he were scum he would have known that there isn't definitely a doc. Instead he read something and misinterpreted it to mean there was a doc
How do you know there isn't a doc?
This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:
A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
2 set ups with a doc, mafia knows if there is a doc or not (since they know the set up) Town does not know. How do you know that there isn't a Doc?
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