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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:53 GMT
#881
On January 29 2016 02:40 JesusIncarnate wrote:
Hello, I will catch up to page 30. Then in approximately 5 hours i will catch up to page 45.

Read my posts, they will contain vital information.

Like this,
Why try to lynch/go after someone when you are missing 15 pages? How does he even know that his posts are going to contain "vital" information? He could easily just skim a bit (maybe he is busy?)

It also sounds like something scum would say in order to seem relative and useful without being relative or useful. He also (look at bold) highly suggest that even though the lynch is in 3-4 hours (since his post was made) that he thought he was going to live through it. I heard that people say that scum don't worry about getting killed at night, does that impile to lynches too if Jesus thought his partners would bail him out come the lynch? Or is this just NAI/WIFOM?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 28 2016 18:55 GMT
#882
EBWOP: Except for his Onegu read, that one is actually somewhat contradictory.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 28 2016 18:56 GMT
#883
Kura, Jesus or Tumblewood, happy with any of those

nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 28 2016 18:58 GMT
#884
On January 29 2016 03:52 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 03:27 Shapelog wrote:
Like we have a guy who In my mind scumslip or dumbtelled Doc.
Vs
A guy who came in with reads that contradicted each other (and bascailly everything in Eden case). And was given outs from Eden and Darth. Darth did explain why he did though, and make a good point. Might of been scum trying to save scum mate.

The thing I don't like about Eden's cases, is how much conviction he has behind some of his reads when he introduces them.
I also don't think Ikidokaris reads were contradictory, just vague or poorly explained.

#368:
"- Shapelog is obviously town, and the first thing I want to do when I get the motivation to read this game in detail (which will be tomorrow, hold me to this and don't let me be lazy) is to read the sequence of people scumreading him early while it was the "in" read to give, because I'm almost positive scum were involved in that."

Sidenote: I guess we forgot to hold him his promise and let him be lazy.

#671:
"This Ikidomari guy is basically lock scum, we can lynch him too."
It at least seems plausible that Ikidomaris post was the result of a nervous first time mafia player, being late to the thread. Which in turn makes Eden's case seems slightly opportunistic.

Alas, it could very well be that Eden is just a more confident player than I am.


Two things come to my mind.
1. Pretending you are certain someone is scum is not bad. It's called posturing, and it can act as additional pressure on that player.
2. It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't posturing even. I found his cases quite convincing, even though they didn't convince me.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 28 2016 18:59 GMT
#885
While I read up on the Tumblewood case.

Why wouldn't you be happy with Ikidomari?
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 19:00 GMT
#886
On January 29 2016 03:52 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 03:27 Shapelog wrote:
Like we have a guy who In my mind scumslip or dumbtelled Doc.
Vs
A guy who came in with reads that contradicted each other (and bascailly everything in Eden case). And was given outs from Eden and Darth. Darth did explain why he did though, and make a good point. Might of been scum trying to save scum mate.

The thing I don't like about Eden's cases, is how much conviction he has behind some of his reads when he introduces them.
I also don't think Ikidokaris reads were contradictory, just vague or poorly explained.

#368:
"- Shapelog is obviously town, and the first thing I want to do when I get the motivation to read this game in detail (which will be tomorrow, hold me to this and don't let me be lazy) is to read the sequence of people scumreading him early while it was the "in" read to give, because I'm almost positive scum were involved in that."

Sidenote: I guess we forgot to hold him his promise and let him be lazy.

#671:
"This Ikidomari guy is basically lock scum, we can lynch him too."
It at least seems plausible that Ikidomaris post was the result of a nervous first time mafia player, being late to the thread. Which in turn makes Eden's case seems slightly opportunistic.

Alas, it could very well be that Eden is just a more confident player than I am.

FUCK I WAS SUPPOSE TO HOLD THAT PROMISE AND YELL AT HIM FOR IT IF HE DIDN'T DELIVER!
Eh you might be right about Ikido. too. Maybe, he was overwhelmed and as result from the stress wasn't able to explain the way he saw it. Stress would do that. But mafia might also have that Stress as result of being mafia.

*sign* do i take the calculated risk of letting a scummy person like him to not be lynch to see his true colors? At least till tomorrow. Who can fix everything wrong with him with help from (Darth/Eden or any scum mate and coach) and cost us the game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 28 2016 19:02 GMT
#887
Braglist version 1.1

2. Tumblewood
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
7. Ikidomari
9. Trfel
10. Onegu
11. _MexicanAlien
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 28 2016 19:04 GMT
#888
On January 29 2016 03:59 Alur wrote:
While I read up on the Tumblewood case.

Why wouldn't you be happy with Ikidomari?


I'm trying to consolidate and I think the other targets are better

With Ikidomari i'm still unsure but he says it's his first game and from his posts it seems to me like a new guy who knows he has messed up but wants to put his own ideas out there.
Plus he hasn't really had a chance to play so I want to see what he comes up with later on.

I think that the cases on the other 3 are stronger and we shouldn't be spread over 4 people.



Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 19:04 GMT
#889
On January 29 2016 03:59 Alur wrote:
While I read up on the Tumblewood case.

Why wouldn't you be happy with Ikidomari?

Me?
Because he had so many escape paths,
Practically had a "Poor me, I fucked up and i should die" attitude
And Gave up instead of really trying to explain reads or push his scum reads. (Though, as a newbie, he might overprotect himself because he is being scum read as town. I did it my first game, but i was blue)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 19:05 GMT
#890
On January 29 2016 04:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Braglist version 1.1

2. Tumblewood
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
7. Ikidomari
9. Trfel
10. Onegu
11. _MexicanAlien

Now with almost 71% more people on it!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 28 2016 19:06 GMT
#891
On January 29 2016 04:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Braglist version 1.1

2. Tumblewood
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
7. Ikidomari
9. Trfel
10. Onegu
11. _MexicanAlien


What in the the blistering blue barnacles does this mean?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 28 2016 19:06 GMT
#892
Kura or tumblewood, decided not to lynch Jesus

let's get it down to two.
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:10 GMT
#893
On January 29 2016 02:59 Kuragari42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:50 Alur wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:40 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either.


50/50 = 75/25
I enjoy that logic.

No clue what rule you could be referencing.


"Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip

there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you


Yeah, my bad.

Still no clue about the rule.

The rule we're referencing is the rule about how the game is played on 1 out of 4 possible setups.

Explained here by the host: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix#2



Oh, didn't know that qualified as a rule. I was aware of it but my mind didn't remind me of the fact that there were not doctor's in all the options while I was typing out that post.



Finished my post from earlier.
SMITE
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 19:12 GMT
#894
Fuck it, I trust everyone elses judgement that if he is mafia, he will screw up.
##Unvote
##Vote Kuragari42

I swear If we lose and he is scum I will cry.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:12 GMT
#895
On January 29 2016 04:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Braglist version 1.1

2. Tumblewood
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
7. Ikidomari
9. Trfel
10. Onegu
11. _MexicanAlien


You figured out that there are atleast 7 players in the game.

Bravo.
SMITE
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 19:12 GMT
#896
He = Ikido btw
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 28 2016 19:13 GMT
#897
On January 29 2016 04:04 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 03:59 Alur wrote:
While I read up on the Tumblewood case.

Why wouldn't you be happy with Ikidomari?

Me?
Because he had so many escape paths,
Practically had a "Poor me, I fucked up and i should die" attitude
And Gave up instead of really trying to explain reads or push his scum reads. (Though, as a newbie, he might overprotect himself because he is being scum read as town. I did it my first game, but i was blue)

It was directed to PMT, my bad for being unclear. I am aware of your stance on Ikidomari.

However, if you're still unsure who to lynch, I think theres a higher chance of Kuragari42 being mafia, than Ikidomari.

Or phrased differently, I think its more likely that Ikidomari is a panicked newbie town, than Kuragari being a town who's playing scummy, has a short filter, and is doing dumbtells.

On that note.

Kuragari you are currently slated for being lynched. If nothing else, you must have some reads or an opinion of the current state of the game. If you're actually being incorrectly lynched right now, a town player should be able to gather some information based on how the bandwagon against you is developing

I can't justify not lynching him if he doesn't give a defense.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 28 2016 19:14 GMT
#898
EBWOP*: Considering his play so far.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 28 2016 19:14 GMT
#899
On January 29 2016 04:06 PepperMintTea wrote:
Kura or tumblewood, decided not to lynch Jesus

let's get it down to two.

why not
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 28 2016 19:15 GMT
#900
before we lynch someone they should claim, right?
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