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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 19:51 GMT
#5421
Like i just wanna read and drink coffee right now
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 19:51 GMT
#5422
Ticktock can you link previous scum games?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 03 2016 19:53 GMT
#5423
I'm going to cool down for now and watch some Sherlock with gf.

SL you're literally giving me a heart attack.

Will be back later.
Minimal effort.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 03 2016 19:56 GMT
#5424
On February 04 2016 04:40 Tictock wrote:
@ Shining

What is your read on SL?


He was one of my two poe scum but he's progressively gotten more townie this day, where Superbia hasnt. Regardless of whatever SL has against me, which he's made abundantly clear multiple times this game, I like the way he's been looking at you and Super objectively. Normally I'd find all the flopping questionable but this is basically mylo and he's not just pulling out random speculations. He's reading filters, using meta, revisiting things that were already saidd today. He's basically doing everything I would expect him to do as town, even if I don't really don't like the way he's gone about me.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
February 03 2016 19:58 GMT
#5425
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.
Minimal effort.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:03 GMT
#5426
On January 26 2016 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
TT + Kita are a team so that's handy


shit I forgot about this. super use your time to see if any mafia in this game had the power to alignment check tt or whatever
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 03 2016 20:04 GMT
#5427
On February 04 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:39 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:30 Superbia wrote:
I have shown with absolute perfect logic that if I was in the scum position last night, no-shooting is super insanely bad.

But let's just ignore it.


Or you stacked on Palmar and are now using the no shoot excuse. You even encouraged Palmar to not post during the night phase.


This is so backwards. You've been pushing me for no-shooting.

I agree that a stack on Palmar was likely if you're town because I don't think a team of 2 with copcake +1 is likely. I also explained that TT would have likely not held his shot due to his EoN post.

Also I specifically told Palmar to leave a legacy at EoN.


What I meant by no shoot excuse is the logic you used to defend that you would not no shoot. Yes I believed you could and would still no shoot to frame me but it's also possible you just stacked on Palmar and used the missing kp to push me anyway.

Yes you said leave a legacy but you also explicitly discouraged discussion multiple times, essentially allowing the last scum to hide and not have to post anything. You as scum would have the most to gain from that.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:04 GMT
#5428
On February 04 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote:
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.


what do you mean? go onnnn
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 03 2016 20:07 GMT
#5429
On February 04 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote:
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.


Still trying to keep your auto intact, I see.

It's pretty awesome that I keep getting called useless but no one has read my Damn posts and hasn't figured out THAT TTS ROLE IS TWO SHOT AND HE ALREADY BANNED TWICE. DAMDRED AND ME.

Add that to reasons I don't think you're town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:07 GMT
#5430
WoT, but I'm not gunna let it blow up the page.

Still smaller than the last one.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 02 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:
I knew Cop was scum. Good shyt.

Wifom but Palmar was tring me, I'd never shoot him as scum.

I was roleblocked. And I'd honestly probably sheep TT on Super. It's definitely one of Super/SL. The no concession means last scum is townread heavily. That's obviously not me. Lynching me today is stupid, I am town and won't be the reason we lose, Fuck that.


Fairly Meh, I'm not sure I believe there is any real passion behind that last line.

On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss?


This I totally agree with, actually there's a few good questions here in his filter I like.

On February 02 2016 08:56 The Shining wrote:
Whichever one of you is town is a flower and the other is happy scum. Good shit.

Its probably super and if we mislynch, the game is over because he won't protect the person he's shooting. Or if by some magic he's town, he'd have to protect the person scum is shooting, which won't happen bcuz they just shoot him. Stupid. Mislynch = loss.


This is what I have been saying but this looks like Shining isn't just straight parroting or anything here. Not sure if the slight misconception about Super's role means anything, but it is consistent with how Shining has gotten role stuff mixed up a little before (mostly with my Ban on damdred, and a little on it last night).

On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


Again, this post is pretty on point. It could be he is just rolling with the fact that I've hard townread him most of the game. Biggest thing to me is just that he is looking at things from multiple points of view.

Yea I don't wanna quote everypost, but I agree with all the points TS is bringing up in #5045, #5098, #5100.

Kinda Meh about this post too.
On February 02 2016 11:11 The Shining wrote:
Whoever thinks I'm scum should also really tell me what team I'm on. I've wanted Cop dead forever. I tried to get Rels lynched before anyone off of what I thought was a slip(his protect list). I was all in for the double scum flip. Like srsly there is no world I'm scum in this game


On the one hand I agree with it as my earlier filter dives showed pushes and scumreads on the right people and enough that they had to have come from different teams.

Then again if scum TS would be aware that his filter supports that.

Eh still more towny imo, this is a hard enough game without scum selling out their own team.

On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.


NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO


Idk this response feels real.

On February 02 2016 11:27 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote:
If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins


This Is correct. Unless you think Super Is town and trust his shot. But that's the worst end game ever and he isn't town anyway


Ok Last post kus I'm almost at the present.

Here is what bugs me at this point. Shining is talking to SL like he is town, he TR's me, and he agrees with basically everything I posted EoN onwards. In fact it's hard for me to really get a full sense of TS's own thoughts becasue I'm just seeing a lot of my own points coming from him.

It's also weird to me that Shining hasn't voted if he's as convinced that Super is scum as he seemed to be in that last post.

At worst though this still just leaves me uneasy, but leaning town on Shining. I've been hoping to see more clear thought and effort from him though, given we are at endgame here.

I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:08 GMT
#5431
Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:10 GMT
#5432
Im pretty sure tt is out of powers. and you should know that the roleblock wont come into effect untill the night after...

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:11 GMT
#5433
On February 04 2016 05:07 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote:
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.


Still trying to keep your auto intact, I see.

It's pretty awesome that I keep getting called useless but no one has read my Damn posts and hasn't figured out THAT TTS ROLE IS TWO SHOT AND HE ALREADY BANNED TWICE. DAMDRED AND ME.

Add that to reasons I don't think you're town.


no i caught on. I wanted to see peoples reactions...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:11 GMT
#5434
On February 04 2016 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote:
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.


what do you mean? go onnnn

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:11 GMT
#5435
but you blew it i wanted him to talk about it more =[
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:12 GMT
#5436
On February 04 2016 04:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think tt can be with disinfo form filter. and I think rels/copcake werre together and copcake is confirmed a dead mafia.

This means he would have had to be 1v3. and he got roleblocked with 2 kp.. which is alot of town points


I would like to remind you that I shot disfo.


Yet you know this proves nothing...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:13 GMT
#5437
On February 04 2016 04:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
I didnt say your mafia team would include disinfo


... If copcake is with rels then disfo is on a different team.


Can you explain this?

You've questioned me endlessly why I think they were on the same team, but have never done anything to show they weren't.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:13 GMT
#5438
On January 28 2016 16:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 08:43 GreYMisT wrote:



Geript, as Link, the Hero of Time, Died!

ObiWanShinobi, as Nigella Lawson, Died!

Breshke, as Sherlock Holmes, Died!

Cephiro, as dreamflower, Died!






Cake these were the flips from N1. Ceph died due to his own hand trying to shoot Bre, Super shot at VA who presumably protected himself, thus mafia KP was on Koshi (bussed to geript), Obi, and Bre with one shot missing.

So technically yes, it is possible that I was carrrying KP and Koshi blocked it, or it could have been 2 shots on the same person, or another save happened.

There was also KP missing N2 with the only claimed RB being on Super.

My point is that there is tons of stuff happening at night so trying to WIFOM what happened is probably not going to get you anywhere, especially when there is more than one scum team.

But fine you can be in the club of people who scumread me for little reason and can't be bothered to pay attention to the game.


this seems kind of improtant now no? you remember this?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 03 2016 20:14 GMT
#5439
On February 04 2016 05:03 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:
TT + Kita are a team so that's handy


shit I forgot about this. super use your time to see if any mafia in this game had the power to alignment check tt or whatever


Scum investigative roles went to Kita, FF and Disfo. Kita outed FF and died same day as him. It was brought up that Moriarty FF and Watson Disfo were on the same team and killed Breshke to protect their checks. Watson would get the sanity on Breshke Holmes and FF Moriarty and the alignment checks, not who, but if FF and Disfo were scum together, FF would share his checks with his qt, most likely. If they got a scum check on TT, they would've pushed it.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:15 GMT
#5440
On February 04 2016 04:51 sicklucker wrote:
Ticktock can you link previous scum games?


Mys 1st scumgame (you were almost in it) Holy Guardians

My 2nd, and most recent scumgame Nutcraker
I can take that responsibility.
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