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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 03 2016 20:16 GMT
#5441
On February 04 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:
WoT, but I'm not gunna let it blow up the page.

Still smaller than the last one.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 02 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:
I knew Cop was scum. Good shyt.

Wifom but Palmar was tring me, I'd never shoot him as scum.

I was roleblocked. And I'd honestly probably sheep TT on Super. It's definitely one of Super/SL. The no concession means last scum is townread heavily. That's obviously not me. Lynching me today is stupid, I am town and won't be the reason we lose, Fuck that.


Fairly Meh, I'm not sure I believe there is any real passion behind that last line.

On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss?


This I totally agree with, actually there's a few good questions here in his filter I like.

On February 02 2016 08:56 The Shining wrote:
Whichever one of you is town is a flower and the other is happy scum. Good shit.

Its probably super and if we mislynch, the game is over because he won't protect the person he's shooting. Or if by some magic he's town, he'd have to protect the person scum is shooting, which won't happen bcuz they just shoot him. Stupid. Mislynch = loss.


This is what I have been saying but this looks like Shining isn't just straight parroting or anything here. Not sure if the slight misconception about Super's role means anything, but it is consistent with how Shining has gotten role stuff mixed up a little before (mostly with my Ban on damdred, and a little on it last night).

On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
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On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


Again, this post is pretty on point. It could be he is just rolling with the fact that I've hard townread him most of the game. Biggest thing to me is just that he is looking at things from multiple points of view.

Yea I don't wanna quote everypost, but I agree with all the points TS is bringing up in #5045, #5098, #5100.

Kinda Meh about this post too.
On February 02 2016 11:11 The Shining wrote:
Whoever thinks I'm scum should also really tell me what team I'm on. I've wanted Cop dead forever. I tried to get Rels lynched before anyone off of what I thought was a slip(his protect list). I was all in for the double scum flip. Like srsly there is no world I'm scum in this game


On the one hand I agree with it as my earlier filter dives showed pushes and scumreads on the right people and enough that they had to have come from different teams.

Then again if scum TS would be aware that his filter supports that.

Eh still more towny imo, this is a hard enough game without scum selling out their own team.

On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.


NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO


Idk this response feels real.

On February 02 2016 11:27 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote:
If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins


This Is correct. Unless you think Super Is town and trust his shot. But that's the worst end game ever and he isn't town anyway


Ok Last post kus I'm almost at the present.

Here is what bugs me at this point. Shining is talking to SL like he is town, he TR's me, and he agrees with basically everything I posted EoN onwards. In fact it's hard for me to really get a full sense of TS's own thoughts becasue I'm just seeing a lot of my own points coming from him.

It's also weird to me that Shining hasn't voted if he's as convinced that Super is scum as he seemed to be in that last post.

At worst though this still just leaves me uneasy, but leaning town on Shining. I've been hoping to see more clear thought and effort from him though, given we are at endgame here.



I voted this morning
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:16 GMT
#5442
On February 04 2016 04:58 Superbia wrote:
TT you need to do your action on The Shining before EoD in case we still want to go through with SL's plan btw.


I have no more Bans left, you guys are high.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:18 GMT
#5443
On February 04 2016 04:56 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:40 Tictock wrote:
@ Shining

What is your read on SL?


He was one of my two poe scum but he's progressively gotten more townie this day, where Superbia hasnt. Regardless of whatever SL has against me, which he's made abundantly clear multiple times this game, I like the way he's been looking at you and Super objectively. Normally I'd find all the flopping questionable but this is basically mylo and he's not just pulling out random speculations. He's reading filters, using meta, revisiting things that were already saidd today. He's basically doing everything I would expect him to do as town, even if I don't really don't like the way he's gone about me.


Dam you for being so to the point and reasonable.

It both makes me think I'm completely right that you are town, but at the same time super paranoid that you are just telling me what I want to hear...
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:20 GMT
#5444
On February 04 2016 05:13 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 04:51 Superbia wrote:
On February 04 2016 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
I didnt say your mafia team would include disinfo


... If copcake is with rels then disfo is on a different team.


Can you explain this?

You've questioned me endlessly why I think they were on the same team, but have never done anything to show they weren't.


well if all 3 of them are scum me and you are confirmed town. hum...ya maybe he cant live in that world.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 03 2016 20:20 GMT
#5445
On February 04 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched


He's apparently been through my filter and recent posts multiple times. He had ample opportunity to flop his read on me, ML and win the game as scum.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:21 GMT
#5446
On February 04 2016 05:16 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:07 Tictock wrote:
WoT, but I'm not gunna let it blow up the page.

Still smaller than the last one.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 02 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:
I knew Cop was scum. Good shyt.

Wifom but Palmar was tring me, I'd never shoot him as scum.

I was roleblocked. And I'd honestly probably sheep TT on Super. It's definitely one of Super/SL. The no concession means last scum is townread heavily. That's obviously not me. Lynching me today is stupid, I am town and won't be the reason we lose, Fuck that.


Fairly Meh, I'm not sure I believe there is any real passion behind that last line.

On February 02 2016 08:43 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:41 Superbia wrote:
Right. The town between you two will need to realize that the only way we have a chance to lose this game is if we sleep or lynch me. But whatever, we'll get there tomorrow.


There is 1 scum left. If we sleep, there would be 1 NK if you don't shoot and 3 left tomorrow with 1 scum. How is that a loss?


This I totally agree with, actually there's a few good questions here in his filter I like.

On February 02 2016 08:56 The Shining wrote:
Whichever one of you is town is a flower and the other is happy scum. Good shit.

Its probably super and if we mislynch, the game is over because he won't protect the person he's shooting. Or if by some magic he's town, he'd have to protect the person scum is shooting, which won't happen bcuz they just shoot him. Stupid. Mislynch = loss.


This is what I have been saying but this looks like Shining isn't just straight parroting or anything here. Not sure if the slight misconception about Super's role means anything, but it is consistent with how Shining has gotten role stuff mixed up a little before (mostly with my Ban on damdred, and a little on it last night).

On February 02 2016 09:00 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Why is it not TT, the shining?


The safe scum play is to agree with my ml since he'd know I'm not scum, not try to target and case one of the townread players in the thread. His reads on disfo and rels were also pretty good and when I get a chance, I'll re-read his filter but I know my alignment and this is enough to think he isn't scum.

If he was scum, he lynches the easiest town to lynch, like you and SL are trying to do. Not defend me last day phase and continue to do so and case you at eon.


Again, this post is pretty on point. It could be he is just rolling with the fact that I've hard townread him most of the game. Biggest thing to me is just that he is looking at things from multiple points of view.

Yea I don't wanna quote everypost, but I agree with all the points TS is bringing up in #5045, #5098, #5100.

Kinda Meh about this post too.
On February 02 2016 11:11 The Shining wrote:
Whoever thinks I'm scum should also really tell me what team I'm on. I've wanted Cop dead forever. I tried to get Rels lynched before anyone off of what I thought was a slip(his protect list). I was all in for the double scum flip. Like srsly there is no world I'm scum in this game


On the one hand I agree with it as my earlier filter dives showed pushes and scumreads on the right people and enough that they had to have come from different teams.

Then again if scum TS would be aware that his filter supports that.

Eh still more towny imo, this is a hard enough game without scum selling out their own team.

On February 02 2016 11:25 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:15 Superbia wrote:
On February 02 2016 11:08 The Shining wrote:
TTs ability is also 2 shot. Damdred me. He can't do it again.

I also already explained why scumSuper would no shoot last night as well. Knows I'm rb. Has 2 kp so only uses one, puts the missing one blame on me.


IF IM MAFIA I DONT NO-SHOOT. ITS FUCKING HORRIBLE BECAUSE IF YOURE THE OTHER MAFIA TOWN GAINS ANOTHER LYNCH.


NOT IF YOU'RE BANKING ON COP BEING THE OTHER MAFIA. I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO


Idk this response feels real.

On February 02 2016 11:27 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 11:24 sicklucker wrote:
If im understanding the situation correctly. IF you both vote super I have no choice to vote him anyway. Because if we mislynch we lose, and if we sleep super wins


This Is correct. Unless you think Super Is town and trust his shot. But that's the worst end game ever and he isn't town anyway


Ok Last post kus I'm almost at the present.

Here is what bugs me at this point. Shining is talking to SL like he is town, he TR's me, and he agrees with basically everything I posted EoN onwards. In fact it's hard for me to really get a full sense of TS's own thoughts becasue I'm just seeing a lot of my own points coming from him.

It's also weird to me that Shining hasn't voted if he's as convinced that Super is scum as he seemed to be in that last post.

At worst though this still just leaves me uneasy, but leaning town on Shining. I've been hoping to see more clear thought and effort from him though, given we are at endgame here.



I voted this morning


Why did you wait?

I kinda expected you to vote right off to show you still had one.

Ofc then I realized we don't get notified if your vote is exempt till EoD anyways.

Thanks to my shitty role.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:21 GMT
#5447
Ticktock if shining acepted your roleblock hes roleblocked tonight not last night correct? Or am i wrong
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:22 GMT
#5448
On February 04 2016 05:20 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched


He's apparently been through my filter and recent posts multiple times. He had ample opportunity to flop his read on me, ML and win the game as scum.


no dude your wrong. super has a gun. if your lynched super shoots ticktock everytime
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:23 GMT
#5449
shining tt still might be mafia. like his only way to win is to hard town read you and get super lynched. so I hope you realize this
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:23 GMT
#5450
On February 04 2016 05:20 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched


He's apparently been through my filter and recent posts multiple times. He had ample opportunity to flop his read on me, ML and win the game as scum.


This hard core, also I've tried multiple times to straight 1v1 Super which I would never do as scum.

It's also why I don't think SL is scum because he has a much easier path to the win by joining in my push than to do what he is doing here.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:27 GMT
#5451
On February 04 2016 05:23 sicklucker wrote:
shining tt still might be mafia. like his only way to win is to hard town read you and get super lynched. so I hope you realize this


I do, when I started trolling yesterday it was kus I felt like I needed to see more posts from him to see if he was just riding along with me.

It's still a definite possibility, but he just gave a solid TR on you.

So congrats SL you are confirmed town.

I'd like you to compare TS's TR on you vs what Super has been saying though and give me your opinion.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:30 GMT
#5452
On February 04 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Ticktock if shining acepted your roleblock hes roleblocked tonight not last night correct? Or am i wrong


I banned him last Day phase.

So he has a choice last night to take a RB for that night, or to loose his vote today. (or #3 that doesn't matter kus it didn't happen)

That is over and done for. Only person who has role abilities or actions of any kind is Super.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:30 GMT
#5453
On February 04 2016 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:20 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched


He's apparently been through my filter and recent posts multiple times. He had ample opportunity to flop his read on me, ML and win the game as scum.


This hard core, also I've tried multiple times to straight 1v1 Super which I would never do as scum.

It's also why I don't think SL is scum because he has a much easier path to the win by joining in my push than to do what he is doing here.


I dont buy that. you might be honest but as scum its your only way to win and if you were scum you would have to do that or concede
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:31 GMT
#5454
So no, there is no more RB at all this game.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:31 GMT
#5455
On February 04 2016 05:30 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Ticktock if shining acepted your roleblock hes roleblocked tonight not last night correct? Or am i wrong


I banned him last Day phase.

So he has a choice last night to take a RB for that night, or to loose his vote today. (or #3 that doesn't matter kus it didn't happen)

That is over and done for. Only person who has role abilities or actions of any kind is Super.


so your saying shining is not even roleblocked tonight? and you guys both (ticktick super) didnt point this out even tho it could be throwing the game? great
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:33 GMT
#5456
And i was leaning to vote super too. but now I have to go for the two for one deal again. sucks man
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:33 GMT
#5457
On February 04 2016 05:30 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:23 Tictock wrote:
On February 04 2016 05:20 The Shining wrote:
On February 04 2016 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
Man if ticktock is scum he bussed so hard. but his motivations today are scummy because if hes scum he has to get super lynched


He's apparently been through my filter and recent posts multiple times. He had ample opportunity to flop his read on me, ML and win the game as scum.


This hard core, also I've tried multiple times to straight 1v1 Super which I would never do as scum.

It's also why I don't think SL is scum because he has a much easier path to the win by joining in my push than to do what he is doing here.


I dont buy that. you might be honest but as scum its your only way to win and if you were scum you would have to do that or concede


I am honest as either alignment, I also don't think I'd be so willing to lock myself into a 1v1 like this as scum.

But then again this is a unique situation, probably smart to not take my word at face value.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 03 2016 20:35 GMT
#5458
On February 04 2016 05:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:30 Tictock wrote:
On February 04 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Ticktock if shining acepted your roleblock hes roleblocked tonight not last night correct? Or am i wrong


I banned him last Day phase.

So he has a choice last night to take a RB for that night, or to loose his vote today. (or #3 that doesn't matter kus it didn't happen)

That is over and done for. Only person who has role abilities or actions of any kind is Super.


so your saying shining is not even roleblocked tonight? and you guys both (ticktick super) didnt point this out even tho it could be throwing the game? great


Dude I explained how my role works several times, it's not my fault you refuse to read the OP to figure this shit out yourself and get it mixed up.

Him being RB'd never factored into anything I posted either, so idk why you made that assumption.
I can take that responsibility.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:35 GMT
#5459
like im so overloaded with information here? can you guys help me out? ive asked you multiple times to check out certain angles but you all ignore me I want to lynch all of you
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 03 2016 20:36 GMT
#5460
On February 04 2016 05:35 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:31 sicklucker wrote:
On February 04 2016 05:30 Tictock wrote:
On February 04 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Ticktock if shining acepted your roleblock hes roleblocked tonight not last night correct? Or am i wrong


I banned him last Day phase.

So he has a choice last night to take a RB for that night, or to loose his vote today. (or #3 that doesn't matter kus it didn't happen)

That is over and done for. Only person who has role abilities or actions of any kind is Super.


so your saying shining is not even roleblocked tonight? and you guys both (ticktick super) didnt point this out even tho it could be throwing the game? great


Dude I explained how my role works several times, it's not my fault you refuse to read the OP to figure this shit out yourself and get it mixed up.

Him being RB'd never factored into anything I posted either, so idk why you made that assumption.


YES BUT I SAID IM NOT LYNCHING SHINING TODAY BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED TORM. and both of you guys let it happen. But your the only one with mafia motivation to let it happen
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