[M][I] Rayn's let's be nice invite mini mafia - Page 10

On January 14 2016 17:56 Xatalos wrote:
One thing I wonder about is HF's ninja vote.

On January 14 2016 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE could you elaborate on the thought process on your first three posts? You basically read the thread in a.... non-chronological order, yes?

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I am not sure i can see where ritoky is coming from with his Trfel read. However i personally think this looks like Trfel's townplay for the simple reason that he focuses on finding townreads instead of scumreads -- i looked the last scumgame ritoky referred to (at least i think it was that game?) and what Trfel did there was, yes, aggressive, but it was basically a case on VE. I don't think Trfel's meta is that black and white (aggressive = mafia, which, unless i am mistaken ritoky is suggesting here). The last time i personally played with Trfel (when he was scum) he didn't play like in the game ritoky pointed out at all..

He seems to be the most involved person to get the game going and actually scumhunt, and that's why i think he is town. I don't even think "aggressive" is the right word here, "involved" would be more fitting. So yeah, Trfel is town.

ritoky please, elaborate this. I also think the associative read on DYH is... meh..

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I don't think there is much anything to say about other people.

I think DYH's play is perfectly in range of his scumplay, and he hasn't really.. contributed much aside the Trfel read. Judging from his last coach QT he is a pretty good scumplayer and aware of his "meta" so i don't think Trfel's read is necessarily correct here, i just think the read tells more about Trfel than it does from DYH.

Ace, one thing. I know your scumplay looks pretty much like your townplay because you like... ugh.. how to put it.. don't necessarily care about "how you look". I mean you don't take part in discussions you find "not relevant" but i have to disagree here with you; It's also the reason you look "scummy" when you are town, people get paranoid because they thing you are withholding information (like already seen to be said in this game).

I don't think Cephiro's and Alot's posting makes them anything yet.

On January 14 2016 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

says the dude who ninja-voted twice..
lastly on his null-read.

On January 14 2016 17:59 Xatalos wrote:


Btw yeah, I forgot to mention this one. It really doesn't make much sense that scum would name their teammate as their first townread. It makes even less sense to suspect them as a scumteam just because of that happening. Rather it should be the opposite, usually.

On January 14 2016 18:01 Xatalos wrote:
To be fair, I voted you just because of Palmar's funny post. And I voted for Ace because he seemed the least willing to put forth any useful effort. Maybe some votes could pressure him into doing stuff. If not, well... There could be worse lynches.

On January 14 2016 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What? I don't understand anything you say here.

On January 14 2016 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

this too.
Ace seems to be putting in effort but you are voting for him so he would put in effort?

On January 14 2016 18:04 Xatalos wrote:


Referring to ritoky's post where he made the unflipped association case (and for a reason that wouldn't make it good even if it was flipped).

On January 14 2016 18:05 Xatalos wrote:


Hm? I said the opposite?

On January 14 2016 14:14 ritoky wrote:
for myself for later: if trfel ever flips mafia, lynch dyh

On January 14 2016 17:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To elaborate more:
Basically this is what i want you to answer VE:



Y U do dis?

On January 14 2016 13:42 DoYouHas wrote:
Scumlean ritoky, townlean trfel

ritoky's scumlean on trfel doesn't make much sense. He is ignoring trfel's townread on me post, which is trfel's meatiest one so far, which should put him outside of the column of players that "try to be funny, fit in, sound natural, or do nothing". He finds trfel's pushing questioning of him a townie thing, but frames it as either null or scummy because it isn't outside of what trfel could do as scum. Basically has argued trfel to a null unless i'm reading him wrong. So the only reason I see to mafia-lean trfel would be a gut read. But if it is a gut read, that is a lot of explanation. It would make more sense for rito to be scumleaning someone in his do nothing category since the contrast against that category is what makes cephiro town in his eyes.

Trfel is engaging multiple people, generating content, and pressing for answers.

On January 14 2016 14:08 DoYouHas wrote:
I don't see this aggressiveness you are describing. He joked around, gave a townread on me, and has been questioning people and defending against you. Are you basing this on his initial satirical case on me?

On January 14 2016 18:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ahh okay.. now i see what you mean..
hmm.. it actually makes sense.
Maybe ritoky is town too.

On January 14 2016 18:10 Xatalos wrote:


How did you come to ritoky is town btw? I was really just saying that ritoky's post didn't make much sense...