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I am not sure i can see where ritoky is coming from with his Trfel read. However i personally think this looks like Trfel's townplay for the simple reason that he focuses on finding townreads instead of scumreads -- i looked the last scumgame ritoky referred to (at least i think it was that game?) and what Trfel did there was, yes, aggressive, but it was basically a case on VE. I don't think Trfel's meta is that black and white (aggressive = mafia, which, unless i am mistaken ritoky is suggesting here). The last time i personally played with Trfel (when he was scum) he didn't play like in the game ritoky pointed out at all.. He seems to be the most involved person to get the game going and actually scumhunt, and that's why i think he is town. I don't even think "aggressive" is the right word here, "involved" would be more fitting. So yeah, Trfel is town. ritoky please, elaborate this. I also think the associative read on DYH is... meh.. I don't think there is much anything to say about other people. I think DYH's play is perfectly in range of his scumplay, and he hasn't really.. contributed much aside the Trfel read. Judging from his last coach QT he is a pretty good scumplayer and aware of his "meta" so i don't think Trfel's read is necessarily correct here, i just think the read tells more about Trfel than it does from DYH. Ace, one thing. I know your scumplay looks pretty much like your townplay because you like... ugh.. how to put it.. don't necessarily care about "how you look". I mean you don't take part in discussions you find "not relevant" but i have to disagree here with you; It's also the reason you look "scummy" when you are town, people get paranoid because they thing you are withholding information (like already seen to be said in this game). I don't think Cephiro's and Alot's posting makes them anything yet. | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:10 Xatalos wrote: DYH seems town so far... Basically it just feels like he's analyzing the game objectively. Not pushing any specific thought(s) or avoiding attention. Early credit grab  If i made the posts DYH did would you consider me town? | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: If i made the posts DYH did would you consider me town? Not really... I use a different heuristic for you now anyway  | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:26 Xatalos wrote: Not really... I use a different heuristic for you now anyway Do you realize DYH is a really good scumplayer? | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you realize DYH is a really good scumplayer? I don't really remember him at all...... If that's the case, I guess he can't be given a free pass for now. His posts still seemed fine enough to me. You also pretty much said that it's in the "range of his scumplay", not scummy. Does he just appear really town as scum? | ||
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I don't have a read on one way or another on him, if that wasn't clear. | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos what do you think about Damdred so far? He's actually the player I didn't immediately want to talk about earlier. I guess it's fine. It's just that I was reading his post in the player read diagram thread where he was sad that his play was so easy to read (basically "emotive at all? YES -> town, NO -> mafia" haha). When I looked at how he played this game, I didn't really see any significant emotion, but there were some really weak signs of emotion such as the "(XD)" at one point. It got me thinking that he could be mindful of his read diagram and try to include some sort of emotion forcefully. But then again, I realized that it was too early to judge him just based on a couple of posts. Now the usefulness of this thought process is probably more limited, since I already said it, but what do you think? | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am saying he could definitely make those posts as mafia aswell as town. I don't have a read on one way or another on him, if that wasn't clear. Maybe... My gut feeling was just that he was observing what actually happened in the thread rather than pushing some pre-set agenda... We'll see. | ||
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On January 14 2016 17:36 Xatalos wrote: He's actually the player I didn't immediately want to talk about earlier. I guess it's fine. It's just that I was reading his post in the player read diagram thread where he was sad that his play was so easy to read (basically "emotive at all? YES -> town, NO -> mafia" haha). When I looked at how he played this game, I didn't really see any significant emotion, but there were some really weak signs of emotion such as the "(XD)" at one point. It got me thinking that he could be mindful of his read diagram and try to include some sort of emotion forcefully. But then again, I realized that it was too early to judge him just based on a couple of posts. Now the usefulness of this thought process is probably more limited, since I already said it, but what do you think? I am conflicted on him since i kinda feel like i should have a read on him and i don't. If that makes sense... On the other hand i wanna townread him for his eagerness to trying to read me, on the other hand i think he is scummy because of this post: On January 14 2016 09:31 Damdred wrote: But seriously I don't really have a read any which way and I don't quite see what you are saying here yet if you are being serious ..or not really this post, but what he says after; After this Trfel makes his town case on DYH and i feel like Damdred (being a tone reader -- and Trfel actually contributing a reasonable amount) should have a read on him here. Some sort of a read, any sort. It's weird he doesn't. | ||
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On January 14 2016 10:19 Damdred wrote: You should just town me and try to pocket me here. As for ace, hello ace i'm pretty new player (XD). I'm not very good depending on who you ask, it takes a bit of prodding to get me to explain what I think and why but don't worry I don't tunnel. I've heard a lot about you and expect a lot Oh yeah, this post just felt a bit bad to me overall. Both the weak (XD) like it was inserted as an afterthought to have some emotion (if that makes any sense hahaha.... maybe not) and the buddying with Ace? All conjecture at this point though. | ||
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Basically this is what i want you to answer VE: ![[image loading]](http://i63.tinypic.com/24cbg34.jpg) Y U do dis? | ||
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