EPTNewbie Student Mafia XVIII - Page 13
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Fidei86
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Irishbound
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:23 Fidei86 wrote: Eh what I meant to say is your lack of a read on ShapeLog (you don't actually have a read on him). For me, I think SL's "loneliest man in New York" rant was kinda towny, but it's more surprising that you didn't hit on that but went to Gigya. I haven't really gone through his filter because it's annoying to read and didn't notice anything special from him in the thread (aside from spam). I guess that also doesn't make him look too good considering the filter size. | ||
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Onegu
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:56 Onegu wrote: VT Claim Not quite the first post I'd have imagined | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:41 mderg wrote: I haven't really gone through his filter because it's annoying to read and didn't notice anything special from him in the thread (aside from spam). I guess that also doesn't make him look too good considering the filter size. I agree it's annoying, but what do you think about his alignment? | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
Onegu claims VT in every game he plays, whether it's voice or forum. It is super NAI. Hopefully he'll be less useless than all the other games we have played together, but somehow I doubt it >> | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:27 Irishbound wrote: @Fiedei - Snapes pregame posts inside the thread were very similar in that he'd post a lot with not much of it being particularly game related, think it's just a playstyle type thing for him. Can you explain your town read on Scott for me as well as comment on what about my scum-read on him you disagree with please. I've played with Scott in three games. The first was Holy Guardians, the second was NMXII and the third NMXIV. In HG he played very aggressive and accusatory, and was town. In the second game, he AFK'd and was town. In the third he actually played really well and I ML'ed him at LYLO for the town loss. But the thing I remember about his d1 in that game was that he would tend to quote long pieces of text and give a quick reaction to them. He didn't give long reads, he just sort of surfed the thread. His play here matches that. I also recall that he likes to tease GB (and indeed nearly got GB lynched d1 in XIV). It's a little thing, but if Scott and GB were adverse, I'd expect Scott to stay away from reading him early. So it's a bunch of little things, really. Usual caveat - it's early etc. But yeah. | ||
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Fidei86
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On December 29 2015 21:33 Fidei86 wrote: I agree it's annoying, but what do you think about his alignment? Not sure, as you've already pointed out there's not much content and mostly useless posts. But from my experience useless spam comes more often from town than from scum. So I'm leaning in the direction of town on him. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote: GB throwing out townreads like it's drunken Monday - hmmm... Okay, I'm extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available. Maybe GB was right  You get a townlean for this Irish. I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now... This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well. I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime) Catching up. There are a few things I don't like about this post, some points were already touched on. Now there are a few things I already know about Scott, I've had two games worth experience with him, one was newbie 14, where I had a more comprephensive experience with him, and he was an easier (IMO) town read, the second was newbie 17 where he was mislynched day 1. He has made bad posts as either alignment. That said: (1) GB throwing out reads like candy - what is the actual (alignment) stance on that? Too easy of a read? Unusual for his gameplay? Looking at GB's filter, another thing I didn't like was him asking KMatt a question and not following up on it one way or another. (2) The read on me so it was a null opening. Doesn't say much. Any thoughts about the rest of my posts that would help resolve at least a preliminary stance? (3) The method of notetaking shouldn't be a reason to townread people (I mean look at Trfel, for those of you that know him), unless he's townreading him for reasons that wasn't clearly explained. This post alone would warrant a scumlean pending some explanation or follow up. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 10:41 GiygaS wrote: The joke was forced in that I wanted to post to say "I'm here" basically, but didn't really have much to say. As for what I think about Irish, slight town lean. Only real suspicion is on GB atm for his very matter of fact town read (I agree with it to some extent but he was very confident in it so early which I thought was weird) and that weird first post. This is a tough call. I can't see scum drawing attention to themselves like this "yeah my comment was forced" but it did happen in Dark Tournament with disformation. I'm going to say (for now) possible but unlikely and don't feel this is a good reason to scumread GigyaS yet. The point of him not taking too many stances on the content that has occurred is valid though. That said, GigyaS if you can talk to us about GB, Scott, Fidei, and mderg it might help. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On December 29 2015 21:34 Fidei86 wrote: Onegu claims VT in every game he plays, whether it's voice or forum. It is super NAI. Hopefully he'll be less useless than all the other games we have played together, but somehow I doubt it >> ##Vote: Fword Dude How about this? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Are you voting Fidei because you actually think he's mafia or because you have a personal vendetta against him saying that you throw games all the time? Do you really think he's being unfair calling you useless when (from what I understand) you contribute dick all to the thread (especially day 1). If you think Fidei is mafia, what in that post actually makes him mafia? Knowing the things he's said out of game about you that statement is NAI to me and could potentially be town if you looked at it from the vantage point that he's trying to guide others (in this context, mderg) on how you should actually be read. | ||
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NocturneMage
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 29 2015 20:06 Fidei86 wrote: Hi all. Not many people in this player list I know at all. I know NocturneMage (Alex) pretty well - been in two games with him. Also Scott, GB and Onegu, though I think I've only seen town Scott and Onegu. Everyone else is basically brand new to me. Alex/NM's opening on me is the most NAI post I've ever seen - he and I always joke about lynching each other pre-game. I don't see how GB could have got anything from that post. GB have you played with NM before? The rest of GB's contributions are pretty ehhh as well. The only thing that sticks out to me is that the last time GB did a claim first post was Newbie XIV, where he was scum and claimed "not not doctor" or some such bullshit. Has anyone else noticed anything similar? The thing that irks me about Alex/NM's play is always his tone. I usually think when people type too formally it's a Mafia tell, because they're the ones concerned about things being out of place. But with him, that's just how he is. Maybe it's a doctor thing? Content wise, I liked his post at #202. I don't think it makes Irish scum at all, but this is how Scott plays. His activity is always up and down, and he basically has a "see say" way of playing town. He also has played a lot with GB afaik. If anything, I'd give Scott a slight TR. Null on Alex/NM though. Onegu has a horrible record of AFKing though D1 and then getting replaced. Ugh. I'm not going to hold my breath on that. I'm not sure what to make of ShapeLog. For an experienced player, the fact that like 80% of his posts are totally off topic would be a major warning sign. But since he doesn't have all that many posts, it could be that he's just feeling comfortable in the thread. As someone who is literally terrified of posting whenever I roll mafia, this is pretty towny to me WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT IS FUCKING ANNOYING AND SHITS UP THE THREAD WHICH IS VERY ANTI-TOWN. Ahem. Don't spam posts please people. Alright, this post. I am assuming you think GB is scummy, which a lot of other people are sayign as well. Are you saying his claim could make him more or less mafia? I gave an explanation earlier of how it could be anti-town but not necessarily scummy. Also I don't understand by what you meant by see say way of town. I'm not sure your stance is reasonable from the perspective that you haven't played with a scum Scott before. How do you know his post couldn't possibly come from a scum perspective? The tone read on me is confusing at best. In Dark Tournament you compared me to a Jack Russell on meth because I was emotional and last game I admitted that I was playing emotionally because Trfel and Half the Sky were in that game and both of those players had me on full tilt all game. The existence of HTS in general will have me on full tilt in any game as you should know but as neither of those players are present do you think my current tone is unusual or makes me mafia? You said before that my current tone is what you'd normally expect of me. So the meta change really doesn't make sense to me. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
You didn't play Nutcracker did you? Shapelog was like this there too. I'm just going to ignore the spam and focus on where he actually gives reads or alignment stuff. There was one set of reads where he said everything to him was NAI up to a post with GB which I really didn't agree with and I wasn't sure if initially he was trying to be noncomittal. From a wording thing the other thing was Shapelog saying that he was going to "wait for more content" which generally for a player I don't know well is a scum tell because scum generally play a more reactive game. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
The existence of HTS in general will have me on full tilt in any game....do you think my current tone is unusual that it could potentially make me mafia (seeing as you've given me a null read)? | ||
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NocturneMage
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NocturneMage
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